Driver in Fatal Salerno Crash Cited

Driver in Fatal Salerno Crash Cited

There are 39 comments on the www.wbbm780.com story from Jan 25, 2008, titled Driver in Fatal Salerno Crash Cited. In it, www.wbbm780.com reports that:

CHICAGO STNG/AP/CBS 2/WBBM) - * CBS 2 Morning anchor Randy Salerno was killed last night in a snowmobiling accident and the driver who was said to be his childhood friend has been cited for drunk driving in ...

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#21 Jan 31, 2008
Ernie wrote:
My prayers go to the family of this tragedy but
their is always one talking about what if without facts, Their has never been an arrest or an investigation about St.Germain Rentals and I hope
they find out who the (Member) is and sues you to shut people like you up.
Keep your negetive post to your self an let the Sherrifs office do the investigation.
They know exactly who I am. They won't and can't sue or do anything for 2 reasons. 1. They can't prove anything I've said is a lie. 2. Anything said in a court room then becomes public. If I testified to what Iknow, Rhodes would be in jail.

As far as I know, this is atleast the second time since 2005 that someone has been killed on a sled from St Germain rentals
Melanie

Chicago, IL

#22 Jan 31, 2008
No one wants to ask, but what was Randy's Blood Alcohol Content? If it was high, wasn't he also partially responsible since his impaired decision making led to his death? If a drunk man on train tracks gets killed by a drunk train driver, who is responsible?

And if he had no alcohol in his system, he let his friend drive drunk. We teach our kids not to get in a vehicle with someone who has been drinking.

I think it's most despicable that instead of sitting with the pain and loss and tragedy all around, both for the Salernos and the Hirscheys, the law comes in and tries to put the blame and responsibility somewhere so that we are DOING SOMETHING instead of sitting with the fact that we don't control everything, are in fact, fallible, and we are not eternal.
Brian

United States

#23 Jan 31, 2008
There is no mystery here. You have an inexperienced snowmobiler who had way to much to drink .225 4 hours after the accident when .008 is legally drunk. God only knows what his blood alcohol level was at the time of the accident. He probably forgot he was even on a lake. You then put a passenger on the back of a of a sled that barely has room for one and go 80 mph across a lake. This was a formula for disaster. Randy never had a chance. It was like jumping out of an airplane with no chute. The answer is less drink and less speed and tow a broken sled unless you have a 2 up.
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#24 Jan 31, 2008
I was just wondering how far they had been riding double and how far they were going. I ask this because maybe they were just heading back to where they were staying or something. Maybe they were riding double for a short distance. If my sled broke down and I wasn't to far from home, I'd ride double just far enough to get home or someplace close by just to get off the trail or lake. If the sled that broke down was a rental and it was in a safe place, I could see why they were riding double. If the sled that broke down was a rental and they called the rental place, I'd look into what they were told. Maybe the rental place told them to just leave the sled there. I don't think we have all the facts. Also, I would check to see if the rental agreement does in fact state warnings about riding double. I don't remember seeing that on the rental agreement when I worked for a snowmobile rental business, and it wasn't common to explain to renters about what to and what not to do when they rented a sled. Especially with an experienced rider. Another thing, if the sled that broke down was a rental, depending on why it wouldn't start, I'd really look into putting some blame on the rental company. If that sled had started Randy wouldn't have been in that accident and he'd be alive today. These are just my opinions.
mary from Lombard

Chicago, IL

#25 Feb 1, 2008
it just goes to how how fragil life is.
first time he took this trip with his buddies, first night, and first time on a snowmobile.
I quess we can say if he only didn't go. But he did and its done. I pray for his family, and hope Randy is at peace. god Bless you Randy you were one of the Good guys!
Carp

Orland Park, IL

#26 Feb 2, 2008
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Well, if it was St Germain rental, I'd sure take a closelook at that sled cause thats the business I was talking about earlier. There mechanics have been know to do drugs while working on sleds. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if there was a problem with that sled. Maybe the throttle locked up, or the brakes failed, or the wear rods were worn out. If anyone knows who to contact to make sure that someone goes over the sled and checks St Germain Rentals maintenance records, please tell them or post the info here and I'll do it.
Couldn't happen to nicer guy-Ron@St Germain

I've personally had numerous mechanical failures with his sleds. When I brought it to his attention, he was an ASS!

The whole thing is a tragedy
sayner snowmobile crash

Broadview, IL

#27 Feb 3, 2008
was the bar he went the bar right below fralicks that hotel thing?
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#28 Feb 4, 2008
Hey Carp, go to the forum called St Germain Rentals(Ron Rhodes)
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#29 Feb 7, 2008
Hirschey's got 3 charges against him. Other then the one we all know, they also charged him with refusing to take a breathilizer and operating a snowmobile while intoxicated. Like I predicted, they're going to make an example of him. After the undercover report by CBS2 Chicago, they'll try to show how well they deal with situations like this. The whole country is watching. Does anyone know if the authorities even bothered to look at any other factors like trail markers, conditions, the sled? It's ashame that the memory of Randy Salerno will always be associated with drinking and driving.
Guest

Washington, DC

#30 Feb 8, 2008
I have a lake house in the area and regularly sled there. The drinking and driving is absolutely as issue up north. Unlike highways and waterways in Northern WI, there is little to now enforcement of any kind so people feel more comfortable drinking and driving. Clearly an blood alcohol level of nearly 3 times the legal limit was the cause of the accident. I have been on that trail and the where you enter / exit Plum lake is not a difficult task unless you are going too fast, drunk, at night.

This crap about the condition of the sleds is true BS. I am sure there will be an investigation but it is silly to ignore the blood alcohol level like Hirshey's.

Clearly Hirshey did not mean to kill his friend but I fail to see why a drunk snowmobile accident should be treated any differently that a vehicle DUI involving a death. It is text book negligent homicide.
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#31 Feb 8, 2008
I never said to ignore the blood alcohol level, I totally agree that alcohol was a contributing factor. If you take the time to read through all the posts instead of just opening your big mouth, you'd see that the place the sled was rented from has a history of their sleds being involved in accidents. Once the investigators found out Hirshey was drinking, it was as if that was the end of it. Yes he was guilty of drinking and diving, but should that be the end of it? He, as well as everyone else that rides, deserves a thourough investigation. If alcohol was the only factor, then so be it. But what if there were other contributing factors? The public needs to know this. It amazes me the level of ignorant people that post here. Guest, you must be related to little ernie.
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#32 Feb 8, 2008
No he'snot related, I got this stupid onmy own

Since: Feb 08

Nutley,NJ: now St. Paul, MN

#33 Feb 14, 2008
Friends don't let friends drive drunk. It doesn't matter whether it's a car, boat, plane, or snow mobile.
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#34 Feb 14, 2008
Nice commercial Liz. Do you have any thoughts of your own?

Since: Feb 08

Nutley,NJ: now St. Paul, MN

#35 Feb 15, 2008
Ernie wrote:
Nice commercial Liz. Do you have any thoughts of your own?
Yes, I do. Having lived in northern Wisconsin for 9 years I saw way too many drunk people driving snow mobiles, boats, and cars. I have been saying for a very long time that friends don't let friends drive drunk, it is my own thought. It is one I have always lived by. I think if bartenders refused serving those who've had enough to drink and/or took their keys away there'd be fewer fatalities.
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#36 Feb 15, 2008
Get a clue Liz, it's a commercial. For everyone's information, a question has come up regarding the sled as to whether it was safe to ride or not.

Since: Feb 08

Nutley,NJ: now St. Paul, MN

#37 Feb 15, 2008
St Germain Rentals wrote:
Get a clue Liz, it's a commercial. For everyone's information, a question has come up regarding the sled as to whether it was safe to ride or not.
I have been using that line for about 35 years. Maybe I did originally hear it on radio (no TV until recently) but it's a good philosophy to live by.
Kat

Eagle River, WI

#38 Feb 17, 2008
Ever hear the phrase..."Nothing will ever get done til some one important gets killed",? Randy's death may actually...no..SHOULD, CHANGE the norm here in the Northwoods. The drinking, driving, & the overserving at bars in northern Wisconsin has been a problem, LONG overlooked! This accident should HOPEFULLY start punishing bartenders who serve drunk patrons who drive cars or snowmobiles. And, slap bars with HUGE fines, shut them down, &/or take POINTS off DRIVER'S LICENSES, of the bartenders AND drivers! Don't let this wonderful guy be another statistic---but a HERO, because a HERO SAVES lives.
Friend of both

Algonquin, IL

#39 May 3, 2008
I have known Randy since grade school, Scott as well. Sometimes one bad decision leads to irreversible consequences. Many of us have learned this the hard way. I am sure alot of people reading this can say that there are times when maybe they would have been over the limit had they been tested but still chose to drive. Back when Randy and I were in our teens & 20's, If you got caught with alcohol, most likely, the cops would empty it and send you on your way (that was given that you were not obviously impared). That did not mean that if tested, you would not be found over the limit. The problem with alcohol is the more people have, the less inhibited they feel. You dont always realize you are drunk when you are considered to be over the limit. Vacation does not help that. I feel for all of the people affected by this, Randys family will miss him dearly, he was such a family man and a person who loved his home town more than most people I know. Scotts family also has a very heavy burden to deal with, he is suffering from this loss in so many ways. Unfortunately, this is a good reminder to all to really think before they operate any vehicle be it a snowmobile, car, boat or atv etc...It just takes a split second and lives can be changed forever.

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