Ban shooting of tethered targets

Ban shooting of tethered targets

There are 23 comments on the The Morning Call story from Jun 16, 2008, titled Ban shooting of tethered targets. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

It is the nature of law that legislators do not proscribe activities in the abstract.

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broken

Emmaus, PA

#1 Jun 16, 2008
Hunting seems like a great family tradition to pass along to your offspring. Families go on hunting trips and have photos and stories to pass along for generations. My family doesn't hunt, but I respect those families that do enjoy hunting. It does sometimes seem that it is all about the kill and not the hunt. There are so many products that seem to take the hunt out of hunting like scent removers, scents that lure, these kinds of products. It reminds me of baseball, If your going to cheat to win is it really baseball?
Brian

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Jun 16, 2008
I asked a guy I know one time who uses all that stuff...scent removers, mating call whistles etc and a high powered rifle..."how is that considered hunting?" He had no answer....
Ponints

Bethlehem, PA

#3 Jun 16, 2008
Just a few points I would like to comment on.

First You can not quote the Humane Society of the United States in one paragraph and then in the next say..... "We have no quarrel with those who wish to hunt game animals in the wild. "

The HSUS is the largest anti hunting organization in the world and they have openly said their mission is to completely erradicate hunting.

Secondly, the hegins township pigeon shoot did not die a natural death as you said. It was protested for years, and recieved an unbelievable amount of negative press which led to its discontinuation.

Finally, you say, "It becomes necessary, therefore, to follow other states and ban this pitiless practice from our commonwealth." This is absurd. the very reason we have states as separate entities in this country is so we can do what is right for the people in our state. Our laws should not in anyway be affected by the laws of other states.
Ponints

Bethlehem, PA

#4 Jun 16, 2008
Scent removers, calls, etc.

I'll tell you plain and simple the truth about these products. The vast vast vast majority don't work.

Hunting becomes an obsession, not the kill, the hunt. The time, the planning, the patience, offseason scouting, the amount of work that goes into being sucessful is unbelieveable. Hunters are so driven by this obsession that they believe unbelievable product claims.

No matter what kind of scent removing product you have, if a deer gets downwind of you, you're busted.

Calls can be helpful provided you spend the required time learning to use them properly. But using a call poorly is a disaster, and you'd be better off with out one.

Camoflage is a wonderful thing, as long as you don't move. If you move, you're busted, end of story.

All animals have survival skills, For deer its outstanding hearing and smell, for humans its the ability to reason and plan. The rifle is part of our survival skills, you still have to be able to use one effectively. I've seen plenty of people (hunters and non hunters) that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a rifle. For some people the safest place for an animal is right in frot of the muzzle.

Broken, you're right, hunting is a fantastic family tradition. One that is easy to get started in should you choose to. Start by taking the Pa Game Commissions Free Hunter Trapper Education class (covers game law and firearm safety) http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp... . While there start talking to people. Let them know you and your family are just starting out. Someone will volunteer to teach you a few things. There are millions of acres of public land in PA open to hunting.
vet

Frisco, TX

#5 Jun 16, 2008
these pigeon shoots are cowardly
as are the participants. why can't you shoot a clay bird.
RonMania

Washington, DC

#6 Jun 16, 2008
This doesn't rule out pets on leashes in their backyards, does it??
Seriously

Emmaus, PA

#7 Jun 16, 2008
Karma.
Barky von Schnauzer

United States

#8 Jun 16, 2008
It is not a sport, when the animals are tied, fenced in, or deprived of food/water/etc. It is a cowards way of the enjoyment of killing something. The animals don't stand a chance.

Since: Apr 08

Lebanon, PA

#10 Jun 16, 2008
"Ponints"
Scent removers, calls, etc.
I'll tell you plain and simple the truth about these products. The vast vast vast majority don't work.
Hunting becomes an obsession, not the kill, the hunt. The time, the planning, the patience, offseason scouting, the amount of work that goes into being sucessful is unbelieveable. Hunters are so driven by this obsession that they believe unbelievable product claims.
No matter what kind of scent removing product you have, if a deer gets downwind of you, you're busted.
Calls can be helpful provided you spend the required time learning to use them properly. But using a call poorly is a disaster, and you'd be better off with out one.
Camoflage is a wonderful thing, as long as you don't move. If you move, you're busted, end of story.
All animals have survival skills, For deer its outstanding hearing and smell, for humans its the ability to reason and plan. The rifle is part of our survival skills, you still have to be able to use one effectively. I've seen plenty of people (hunters and non hunters) that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a rifle. For some people the safest place for an animal is right in frot of the muzzle.
Broken, you're right, hunting is a fantastic family tradition. One that is easy to get started in should you choose to. Start by taking the Pa Game Commissions Free Hunter Trapper Education class (covers game law and firearm safety) http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp... . While there start talking to people. Let them know you and your family are just starting out. Someone will volunteer to teach you a few things. There are millions of acres of public land in PA open to hunting.

Ponints,
First you talk in favor of pigeon shoots but in your next posting you describe sportsmen. You can't have it both ways. When you take away hunt fair chase you stain the name of every real sportsmen.
Makita
Get Real

Westtown, PA

#12 Jun 16, 2008
I've been a hunter for 39 years and I can tell you no self respecting hunter would ever consider shooting an animal tied to a stake. This isn't hunting, this is just plain killing for people who enjoy killing. Everyone I know respects the law and doesn't shoot more than they would take to feed their family. There are years I've gone hunting and didn't kill anything, but enjoyment of the outdoors is 90% of hunting to me.
ZachJonesIsHome

Caldwell, TX

#13 Jun 16, 2008
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Kim Lisacek

Dresher, PA

#14 Jun 16, 2008
I urge you to please support the ban to stop pigeon shoots HB 2130 and SB 1150. Thank you, Kim Lisacek
PA reader

Perryman, MD

#15 Jun 16, 2008
I already called and urged Pat Browne to support HB 2130 and SB1150. The shooting of animals who have no way of defending themselves is not a sport and the people who think this is okay are missing a gene or something that controls their common sense and compassion.
Ponints

Bethlehem, PA

#16 Jun 16, 2008
Makita, I never talked in favor of pigeon shoots. Just mentioned certain elements of the original letter that seemed inconsistent to me. I whole heartedly agree with you that all hunting should be fair chase or else its not hunting. I do not participate in pigeon shoots and never will. I'm also not the type to tell anyone else that they can't participate in a currently legal activity, especially if I would have to side with anti hunting organizations like HSUS or PETA.
Tyrone Jackson

Miami, FL

#17 Jun 16, 2008
We don't even need to get into hunting here guys. This isn't remotely about whether you like hunting or not. Pigeon shoots are so disgusting they can't even be compared to hunting. It would be like me walking into somebody's bedroom while they are sleeping, punching them in the face and calling myself a boxer. Seriously, now.

Pigeon shoots are animal cruelty, plain and simple, and we as a society are better than this.
taksavillage

Blue Bell, PA

#18 Jun 16, 2008
Brian wrote:
I asked a guy I know one time who uses all that stuff...scent removers, mating call whistles etc and a high powered rifle..."how is that considered hunting?" He had no answer....
He was probably just staring at you in amazement. I do that too when I'm asked dumb questions.
Norbert

Bethlehem, PA

#19 Jun 16, 2008
Hunters prefer to avoid the topic of the non-stop homosexual activity that goes on in their cabins.
Sociologists refer to it with a typical euphemism,``sporting sodomy.''
It's hot and wild, the hunters say. Sometimes it's with each other, sometimes with young men hired from nearby hamlets.
Hunters say it is ``manly love'' and thus they are not gay.
I disagree. I think they are all FLAMERS!

STAY THE COURSE YOU HUNTING FLAMERS!
Pete

Stroudsburg, PA

#20 Jun 16, 2008
If we grab a few Hegins residents and tie them to a stake, we can then shoot them and call it "sport," correct?

It might be easiest to capture the residents at one of their weddings/family reunions (being that they're the same event). We'll lure them to our van by using scents (sweaty socks and chewing tobacco) and noise makers (a recording of a race car engine).

Along the way we can scare them even more by telling them that we're going to make them take an IQ test before we use them for targets.
Norbert

Bethlehem, PA

#21 Jun 16, 2008
Hunters Spread AIDS!
TENNESSEE

Watertown, TN

#22 Jun 16, 2008
Will someone explain to pete the difference between people and animals?

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