Albemarle County Reserve Officers Swo...

Albemarle County Reserve Officers Sworn In

There are 16 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Apr 19, 2013, titled Albemarle County Reserve Officers Sworn In. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

The Albemarle County Sheriff's Office is welcoming some additional staff members.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at NBC29 Charlottesville.

Ray Ray

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Apr 22, 2013
Some new members aspire to get into law enforcement, while others are new retirees, looking to give back to the community. Most just don't have a life!
UNREAL

Johnson City, TN

#2 Apr 22, 2013
I hear Randall Snead is headed back to ACPD.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Apr 22, 2013
Ray Ray wrote:
Some new members aspire to get into law enforcement, while others are new retirees, looking to give back to the community. Most just don't have a life!
Don't have a life without a gun and/or badge. Egotistical nimrods with control issues.
Gotcha

Charlottesville, VA

#4 Apr 22, 2013
Ray Ray wrote:
Some new members aspire to get into law enforcement, while others are new retirees, looking to give back to the community. Most just don't have a life!
Hey Scott, we know its you (Ray Ray). Just wanted to let you know........oh, by the way, time to service the Sequoia (again).
Goob

Harrisonburg, VA

#5 Apr 23, 2013
What a great cross section of the community!
Old Hare

Louisa, VA

#6 Apr 23, 2013
Now if Channel 29 could only tell the difference between a Deputy Sheriff and a Police Officer. The headline for this article makes one think APD has Reserves now...
Cartman

Reston, VA

#7 Apr 23, 2013
You will respect my authoritah!!!!
sez the law

Washington, DC

#8 Apr 23, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>Don't have a life without a gun and/or badge. Egotistical nimrods with control issues.
Says the guy who couldn't do their job even in a volunteer capacity. Get over yourself you retard!
CvilleGordo

Palmyra, VA

#9 Apr 23, 2013
Maybe Channel 29 could explain how, exactly, the auxiliaries save ACSO $500,000 a year. We get the part about the minimum hours worked, etc.- but it doesn't take a CPA to figure out that putting volunteers to work does not actually save money. It frees up paid resources to do other things, but it doesn't "create" money in the ACSO budget by doing so. If they weren't there, the regular deputies would have to be there instead. Furthermore, taking an auxiliary ride-along with you on a transport has nothing to do with saving money - if they weren't available, you would do it anyway, alone. So where is the savings, exactly? Furthermore, maybe the Sheriff could explain how the vehicles used by the auxiliaries are fueled and serviced. Is that a separate budget, funded by donations? Or is that perhaps County money being spent on auxiliary equipment maintenance? Not to mention regular deputies being required to supervise the auxiliaries in many situations. Are they volunteering their time as well? Finally, who is paying the instructors used to train and certify these auxiliaries? Are they also volunteering their time? I smell some stretching of the truth, if not outright BS.
Old Hare

Louisa, VA

#10 Apr 23, 2013
CvilleGordo wrote:
Maybe Channel 29 could explain how, exactly, the auxiliaries save ACSO $500,000 a year. We get the part about the minimum hours worked, etc.- but it doesn't take a CPA to figure out that putting volunteers to work does not actually save money. It frees up paid resources to do other things, but it doesn't "create" money in the ACSO budget by doing so. If they weren't there, the regular deputies would have to be there instead. Furthermore, taking an auxiliary ride-along with you on a transport has nothing to do with saving money - if they weren't available, you would do it anyway, alone. So where is the savings, exactly? Furthermore, maybe the Sheriff could explain how the vehicles used by the auxiliaries are fueled and serviced. Is that a separate budget, funded by donations? Or is that perhaps County money being spent on auxiliary equipment maintenance? Not to mention regular deputies being required to supervise the auxiliaries in many situations. Are they volunteering their time as well? Finally, who is paying the instructors used to train and certify these auxiliaries? Are they also volunteering their time? I smell some stretching of the truth, if not outright BS.
If these guys worked the road and took calls I think it would be a different story but I kind of agree with you. I mainly see these guys at football games and concerts at JPJ. ACSO is a Civil Process Sheriff's Office first and foremost and not a full service SO like Louisa or Greene have. APD could prolly use a Reserve Corp but yes it still costs money although if they were actively taking calls that could equate to lives saved or people kept from serious injury it would justify the expense.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Apr 23, 2013
sez the law wrote:
<quoted text>
Says the guy who couldn't do their job even in a volunteer capacity. Get over yourself you retard!
If your the law we're all deep stuff. But, we know that anyway, too scared to tackle real crime around here, go write your nice safe tickets and eat some more doughnuts fatboy.
Thanks for your support

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Apr 24, 2013
Old Hare wrote:
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If these guys worked the road and took calls I think it would be a different story but I kind of agree with you. I mainly see these guys at football games and concerts at JPJ. ACSO is a Civil Process Sheriff's Office first and foremost and not a full service SO like Louisa or Greene have. APD could prolly use a Reserve Corp but yes it still costs money although if they were actively taking calls that could equate to lives saved or people kept from serious injury it would justify the expense.
The Reserves handles traffic control at lights during power failure and also save the county from doing traffic control at various parades or 5k 10k events, they also handle all the vast programs the Sheriffs office offers (gun safety, project lifesaver, etc (check out there website under programs all of those are done by reserves), they do the finger printing, sure they can do prisoner transports with one guy and civil process, but it is a lot safer with two even if the other guy/gal is a reserve.

If you all really want to know what it is about get off you butts and go volunteer your selfs. Fire, Rescue, Sheriff's office they are always looking for people to help. If not quit your complaining.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Apr 24, 2013
Thanks for your support wrote:
<quoted text>
The Reserves handles traffic control at lights during power failure and also save the county from doing traffic control at various parades or 5k 10k events, they also handle all the vast programs the Sheriffs office offers (gun safety, project lifesaver, etc (check out there website under programs all of those are done by reserves), they do the finger printing, sure they can do prisoner transports with one guy and civil process, but it is a lot safer with two even if the other guy/gal is a reserve.
If you all really want to know what it is about get off you butts and go volunteer your selfs. Fire, Rescue, Sheriff's office they are always looking for people to help. If not quit your complaining.
All the safe stuff. I'll quit complaining when law enforcement in this cowtown starts going after the drug trade in this town.
CvilleGordo

Palmyra, VA

#14 Apr 24, 2013
Thanks for your support wrote:
<quoted text>
The Reserves handles traffic control at lights during power failure and also save the county from doing traffic control at various parades or 5k 10k events, they also handle all the vast programs the Sheriffs office offers (gun safety, project lifesaver, etc (check out there website under programs all of those are done by reserves), they do the finger printing, sure they can do prisoner transports with one guy and civil process, but it is a lot safer with two even if the other guy/gal is a reserve.
If you all really want to know what it is about get off you butts and go volunteer your selfs. Fire, Rescue, Sheriff's office they are always looking for people to help. If not quit your complaining.
More stretching of the truth. The auxiliaries basically handle a lot of fluff, and a little "real work". And don't try to convince me that this is actual "savings" - the same annual County budget is spent by the department, with or without the reserves. Putting volunteers on a task that exists as a line item in a budget (i.e. metal detector duty) can free up paid resources (deputies) who would ordinarily perform that task, but the funds allocated to that line item are going to be spent SOMEWHERE nonetheless.

So again; where are the "savings"? There are no savings, period. The ACSO costs the taxpayers exactly the same amount whether or not there are reserves contributing volunteer time. Granted, you can say that the taxpayers might be getting more for their money - but that is highly debatable. Not to mention (since it is never mentioned in these fluff PR pieces) that the auxiliaries also get paid to work UVA events (football games, etc.) and occasionally other events.
CvilleGordo

Palmyra, VA

#15 Apr 24, 2013
OK, for all you low information voters out there, here is another way of making my point about "Where are the savings, Sheriff?"

Data is from the following:

http://www.albemarle.org/upload/images/forms_...

FY 12/13 adopted judicial budget:$4,041,921
Of which the Sheriff gets 52%.

Expenditures:$2,099,390
Revenue:$1,218,621
Net cost:$880,769

There is lot more if you are interested in exploring the budget (link above) but what you will not find evidence of anywhere is actual savings due to volunteer (auxiliary deputy) time. The budget mentions volunteers as follows, under "goals": Ensure the use of volunteers is maximized to support initiatives beyond basic mandatory functions.

So again, where are the savings? Could someone please point us to the page in the budget, or provide a link to minutes from a BOS meeting where these savings are identified and quantified?

This whole "WE SAVE THE TAXPAYERS A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY!" baloney all started under Ed "It's a hate crime!" Robb.
Old Hare

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Apr 24, 2013
Thanks for your support wrote:
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The Reserves handles traffic control at lights during power failure and also save the county from doing traffic control at various parades or 5k 10k events, they also handle all the vast programs the Sheriffs office offers (gun safety, project lifesaver, etc (check out there website under programs all of those are done by reserves), they do the finger printing, sure they can do prisoner transports with one guy and civil process, but it is a lot safer with two even if the other guy/gal is a reserve.
If you all really want to know what it is about get off you butts and go volunteer your selfs. Fire, Rescue, Sheriff's office they are always looking for people to help. If not quit your complaining.
Not complaining just stating the obvious. I have seen ACSO Reserve Deputies at UVA athletic events pointing out drunks to UPD officers. Those UPD officers ultimately make the arrest but why? Yeah I know that the ACSO is usually there as just traffic support for games but they are also sworn LEO's and it makes one wonder since they are present in a uniformed LEO capacity. If they aren't making arrests and just handing them off to other agencies they are nothing more than window dressing making money off of the UVA Athletic Department.
I have even been in earshot of a ACSO Reserve Deputy whining to a UPD supervisor about having to take time off from work to go to court so could turn his DIP arrest over to a UVA Officer. That kind of pissed me off but I bit my tongue (as a tax payer) and said nothing to said supervisor. Again if ACSO was a full service office then I could see the need for the extra personnel. If they were out handling calls for service where lives were potentially being saved or patrolling for DUI's at 3AM.

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