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Latest Payment System Causes Funding Woes for VA Daycare Centers

There are 14 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Apr 24, 2013, titled Latest Payment System Causes Funding Woes for VA Daycare Centers. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Virginia child care centers are losing cash - some are even closing their doors.

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Danny

Silver Spring, MD

#1 Apr 25, 2013
After reading this story and thinking about it, I'm shocked that our tax money is being used to take care of peoples children to begin with. If you have a baby, you watch that baby or take it to a baby sitter, that you pay yourself. Why does the state have anything to do with it. If you have a baby, you should be about to get and give that baby everything it will need until it is out of collage and on it's own. But, there is people out there with no jobs, and no money and still laying on their backs , popping them out, for that welfare check. And now I guess child care is included with that. The women who owns the child care centers, and has people not sliding their cards for the tax payer to pay for THEIR CHILD CARE. She will have to stand and watch, every parent every morning, and make sure the parents cards is swiped and it is approved for the day. And if they don't or will not swipe their card, then take your kid with you as the door closes. In this day and time, you can not trust people, even when it is free money, the parents must be doing something with it. I work and always have and have been very lucky in life and don't have to worry about money, but just yesterday, while in Walmart getting grocery,and in line checking out, a women used one of those food stamp cards, and she had tried to buy something not allowed, which slowed the whole line down, but after I was done and walking outside, there she was getting into a new, shiney, Honda car, WHY??, Not sure what that car cost or how she got it, but I don't think it was a gift from someone. I make good money and I save all I can and drive a new truck, which was over $38,000. dollars. So, why is someone on foodtamps, able to have a new car with thirty day tags. Something is really wrong with this country..
More to say

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Apr 25, 2013
Danny wrote:
After reading this story and thinking about it, I'm shocked that our tax money is being used to take care of peoples children to begin with. If you have a baby, you watch that baby or take it to a baby sitter, that you pay yourself. Why does the state have anything to do with it.
You are an idiot. The child care is paid to help these folk go to work. That seems like something we would want to encourage.

If you take it away, you then lose someone from the workforce, and have to start paying them Section 8 for their housing, child support, social security, Medicaid, food stamps.

Child care for an infant runs about $12,000 a year. If you withdraw support you are effectively saying only the middle classes are allowed to have children.
I live here

Earlysville, VA

#4 Apr 25, 2013
If the parent had to pay full price and then had to swipe the card on the way in/out to get the subsidy, I'll bet they would be a lot more diligent in following procedure.
Me myself and I

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Apr 25, 2013
Danny wrote:
there she was getting into a new, shiney, Honda car, WHY?
If it wasn't on the approved list, it's most likely she was using WIC, not food stamps.

If you don't know the difference, you might want to learn first and comment later.
Liberalace

Kents Store, VA

#6 Apr 25, 2013
More to say wrote:
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You are an idiot. The child care is paid to help these folk go to work. That seems like something we would want to encourage.
If you take it away, you then lose someone from the workforce, and have to start paying them Section 8 for their housing, child support, social security, Medicaid, food stamps.
Child care for an infant runs about $12,000 a year. If you withdraw support you are effectively saying only the middle classes are allowed to have children.
Thanks for your brilliance--and name calling. Your last sentence says it all re: your stance on this issue. But to amend it to common sense, it should read: "Only people who can afford it through their own money or a voluntary support net (like family) should be allowed to have children."

Your rationale is priceless--and backwards. So, I should have kids I cannot afford, then use the state to pay for their care, THEN I can go out and look for a job because I now belong in the workforce because the taxpayers will subsidize my kids.

Now, here is a pretty logical solution:
Said day care sets a policy that says if you forget to swipe two times in one year, you get a free pass. Third time: three days suspended from the day care. Fourth time, four days; fifth time, five days. Once these folks--who likely do not have a lot of paid time off--have to take time off from work due to their sloppiness, they will learn.

If that sounds too cruel, you must be in the camp who protested the eviction of the woman in Cville public housing who failed to pay rent for 12 straight months.

We conservatives are so heartless!

R.I.P.: Barry Goldwater
twinmom

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Apr 25, 2013
For crying out loud, if the state is willing to help pay for their childcare, the least the parents can do is remember to swipe their cards. I can see how someone might occasionally forget it, but day after day, no way. The parent has to remember to bring the kid(s), bring a drivers' license, bring money for lunch, bring an employee id badge for some employment locations, and remember to pick the kids up at the end of the day. They can remember the card. The parent has probably sold the card to a friend who doesn't qualify for assistance, so that they both are getting benefits. Time for the day care providers to get hard-nosed about it, otherwise they are going to go broke and the state will acuse them of fraud.

This is just more of that entitlement mentality, like the lady with 6 kids in Charlottesville public Housing who didn't pay her miniscule amount of rent for over a year, didn't respond to repeated requests for information when they tried to help her, didn't file an appeal after the court ruled for her eviction, and now she and her friends want to cry it isn't fair. I'll tolerate offering assistance for child care for someone who is trying to get back on their feet, but the first thing they need to do is accept some responsibility.
twinmom

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Apr 25, 2013
And one more thing....I disagree with the opening paragraph to this story, "Virginia child care centers are losing cash - some are even closing their doors. It's all due to the latest system for how the state subsidizes child care."
No, it is not the state's fault. It is the PARENTS' fault for not swiping the cards.
Me myself and I

Charlottesville, VA

#9 Apr 25, 2013
Liberalace wrote:
Your rationale is priceless--and backwards. So, I should have kids I cannot afford, then use the state to pay for their care, THEN I can go out and look for a job because I now belong in the workforce because the taxpayers will subsidize my kids.
Now, here is a pretty logical solution:
Said day care sets a policy that says if you forget to swipe two times in one year, you get a free pass. Third time: three days suspended from the day care. Fourth time, four days; fifth time, five days. Once these folks--who likely do not have a lot of paid time off--have to take time off from work due to their sloppiness, they will learn.
If that sounds too cruel, you must be in the camp who protested the eviction of the woman in Cville public housing who failed to pay rent for 12 straight months.
We conservatives are so heartless!
R.I.P.: Barry Goldwater
Look - I have no problem with making parents swipe or be penalized.

What I have a problem with was the suggestion that the state shouldn't subsidize child care for low earners.

Those earning $100k a year will quite happily accept the tax deduction offered for child care. That's a subsidy for the well off, where it's probably unnecessary. Those folk could pay the full $12,000 even if they have to tighten their belt a little.

But yes, for lower earners I think it makes sense to say KEEP WORKING. We'll help you with child care for four years until your kid goes into pre-k in the school system. Then you'll be working and paying taxes like the other parents. You'll be a better role model for your kids, who will grow up in an environment where someone goes out to work.

I'm realistic. We're not going to stop people having kids. We're not going to abandon kids to poverty or starvation. So there's going to be government subsidy involved for those earning the least. There's two choices, tell them to give up work and taxpayers will support their children, or we can keep them in work. I prefer the latter.
betty homemaker

Conyers, GA

#10 Apr 25, 2013
Me myself and I wrote:
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If it wasn't on the approved list, it's most likely she was using WIC, not food stamps.
If you don't know the difference, you might want to learn first and comment later.


People try to buy things all the time that are not covered by food stamps (hot bar items, paper goods like toilet paper, and etc.).
Intelligence

Crozet, VA

#11 Apr 26, 2013
regional social workers are working with parents to encourage them to swipe.

They need to be made to swipe or NO FREE DAY CARE!!! Lazy entitled parents!
Intelligence

Crozet, VA

#12 Apr 26, 2013
More to say wrote:
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You are an idiot. The child care is paid to help these folk go to work. That seems like something we would want to encourage.
If you take it away, you then lose someone from the workforce, and have to start paying them Section 8 for their housing, child support, social security, Medicaid, food stamps.
Child care for an infant runs about $12,000 a year. If you withdraw support you are effectively saying only the middle classes are allowed to have children.
Simply put for you to understand. If you can't feed them don't breed them!!
Me myself and I

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Apr 26, 2013
Intelligence wrote:
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Simply put for you to understand. If you can't feed them don't breed them!!
And what penalty to you propose.

Are you going to take the kids away from their parents? How much do you think that'll cost in court fees? How much do you think you'll have to pay all the foster parents?

What are your other suggestions? Let the kids starve?
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Apr 27, 2013
Intelligence wrote:
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Simply put for you to understand. If you can't feed them don't breed them!!
we need more pp centers, put one in every low income neighborhood
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seems to me these daycare centers have a responsibility to ensure the cards are swiped and it should be relatively easy to enforce, no swipey, no more daycare
Intelligence

Canton, MI

#15 Apr 28, 2013
Me myself and I wrote:
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And what penalty to you propose.
Are you going to take the kids away from their parents? How much do you think that'll cost in court fees? How much do you think you'll have to pay all the foster parents?
What are your other suggestions? Let the kids starve?
If you bring a child into this world and know you cannot provide for that child in the way he or she deserves there are many deserving adoptive families that would love to give that child everything he or she deserves. Its called personal resposibility and accountability. Something this country is sadly lacking.

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