Minnesota teen on jet ski saves struggling swimmer

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Beltrami County authorities are commending a Bemidji teen who used his jet ski to save a swimmer struggling in heavy waves.
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Narby

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#21
Aug 27, 2010
 
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Sounds like Brett may have interfered with the natural selection process but good job just the same.
OMG, that's funny. I am still LOL.
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Aug 27, 2010
 
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Nice job young man! You are a positive glimpse of the future.
I second that and couldn't agree with you more.
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#23
Aug 27, 2010
 
i love articles about people who go in boats on lakes then almost drown.
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Did they get the towel back?
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#25
Aug 27, 2010
 
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Obviously his pontoon buddies have problem solving skill issues as well.
Yes, I agree. And that means you and they are in the same boat (pun intended) regarding problem-solving, except the best you can come up with, after having had the luxury of reading and reflecting upon the situation, is to advocate assault and battery.
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OK kid, you did what few would do. but look, that jerk was probably drunk with no mention of his life jacket....hmm now I wonder why they call them floating things that ? Let me think, life + jacket = avoid drowning, jumping in rough water no life jacket if you live should = straight jacket.
Now another question, how come this guy did not have medical attention ? Might be a few warrants out for him ?
So kid if ever a next time then ask your self a few questions about whom you are about to save..
1. Any chance of being a Muslim ? if any , let em drown.
2. Why no life jacket ? If so stupid let em drown.
3. Is drunk a factor for the dunk ? if so let em drown.
4. Reason they are in the water ? If stupid then let em drown.
See kid we got to start weediing out who we want in this country, just ask Palin, T-Party and the state of Arizona.
Hmmm, no, after giving your suggestions the consideration they deserve, I prefer the kid's solution to yours.

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Aug 27, 2010
 
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Yes, I agree. And that means you and they are in the same boat (pun intended) regarding problem-solving, except the best you can come up with, after having had the luxury of reading and reflecting upon the situation, is to advocate assault and battery.
No, it isn't the BEST I could come up with, but I don't really ponder over these issues very long. Time is valuable and there is too much to do, so I write what comes to mind in the seconds after reading an article. If your people stayed in a pontoon while you came close to drowning and you didn't swat at least one or two of them there is something wrong with you though.
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Aug 27, 2010
 
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No, it isn't the BEST I could come up with, but I don't really ponder over these issues very long. Time is valuable and there is too much to do, so I write what comes to mind in the seconds after reading an article. If your people stayed in a pontoon while you came close to drowning and you didn't swat at least one or two of them there is something wrong with you though.
Well, see what happens when you write without thinking? And if you think there is something wrong with NOT committing violence against someone, then you've done it again--written without thinking. You DO know that assault and battery is illegal, no?
There are other, better ways of expressing your anger. Somewhere along the line someone must have told you that. If not, consider yourself told now.

Sir, you are in effect defending the indefensible practice of reacting thoughtlessly, so if there's anything wrong with anyone, that anyone sure as hell ain't me. Also it's a bit hard to believe you don't ponder over these things, since you have posted four times or so already. It seems more likely that you did ponder over this, which makes your rash and ineffective advice all the more disturbing.

You know, what you could do is just admit you made a rash statement and retract it. Believe me, no one will think the lesser of you if you did that.

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#29
Aug 27, 2010
 
I really can't admit that. My best friend died in a very similar manner. His boating buddies looked on stupidly as he went under and drown. Had I been there I would have fished him out. I don't even know you and I would do the same for you without a second thought. Perhaps you would call that rash as well. I don't know why you criticize me for feeling that a physical confrontation would be unwarranted when people have acted in an incredibly selfish, cowardly and irresponsible manner. Where did you grow up, in a Norman Rockwell painting? Did you never trade a few punches with your peers?
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Well, see what happens when you write without thinking? And if you think there is something wrong with NOT committing violence against someone, then you've done it again--written without thinking. You DO know that assault and battery is illegal, no?
There are other, better ways of expressing your anger. Somewhere along the line someone must have told you that. If not, consider yourself told now.
Sir, you are in effect defending the indefensible practice of reacting thoughtlessly, so if there's anything wrong with anyone, that anyone sure as hell ain't me. Also it's a bit hard to believe you don't ponder over these things, since you have posted four times or so already. It seems more likely that you did ponder over this, which makes your rash and ineffective advice all the more disturbing.
You know, what you could do is just admit you made a rash statement and retract it. Believe me, no one will think the lesser of you if you did that.

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#30
Aug 27, 2010
 
Oops! I meant warranted.
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#31
Aug 28, 2010
 
Labratt wrote:
I really can't admit that. My best friend died in a very similar manner. His boating buddies looked on stupidly as he went under and drown. Had I been there I would have fished him out. I don't even know you and I would do the same for you without a second thought. Perhaps you would call that rash as well. I don't know why you criticize me for feeling that a physical confrontation would be warranted when people have acted in an incredibly selfish, cowardly and irresponsible manner. Where did you grow up, in a Norman Rockwell painting? Did you never trade a few punches with your peers?
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Curious. You say you don't really ponder over these issues very long, you write what comes to mind in the seconds after reading an article. But you say your best friend died in a very similar manner. So that didn't even cross your mind when you wrote your first post? Something that traumatic would have been the first thing I'd have thought of when I read this story. Even though your account has all the markings of a self-serving made-up story, I'm not going to say you made it up, but I will say this: I don't believe a word of it.

Also, you wonder if I'd call it rash if you found me drowning and saved me. Of course not. I'd thank you for it. But the wonderment you are feeling is based on your misreading of what I said earlier: I didn't say saving the drowning fellow was rash; I said your advice to the 28 year old to beat up his friends was rash. Not very good reading comprehension, sir. And no, I didn't grow up in a Norman Rockwell painting, I grew up in the Selby/Lexington area of Saint Paul. And yes I did trade a few punches with my childhood peers, but never in my adult life.

But let's get to the question we all are waiting for you to answer. Did you catch up with guys who let you buddy drown and did you trade punches with them? If so, did it correct their selfishness, cowardliness and irresponsibility? After all, according you you that WAS your goal, no? In other words--in adult words--were your actions aligned with your goal and was your choice of options effective? Labrat, you have some issues to work through before you give thought-free advice to someone else. It's ok to be angry but there are more effective ways to channel it.

And with that, I'm done with this conversation. I'll leave it to the readership to decide what to make of your comments and mine.

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#32
Aug 28, 2010
 
In light of your "know-it-all" pedant accusation, I toyed with ignoring your claim, but it was a traumatic experience and I'll tell you how I felt. It was 1975 at Lake Owasso and yes I did toy with ides of chasing down my friend's fellow boaters. I decided against it because I was not a witness and it was not my place to avenge my friends death. I assure you, if it had been me, they would have been confronted physically.

On the topic of honesty, I think that you are guilty of some embellishment yourself. You probably have never thrown a real punch. You are obviously bright enough to have talked your way out of most encounters, and you are unable to distinguish the difference between assult and battery from a garden variety whippin. Unlike the movies, people don't fall down dead after a disagreement. Yes, sometimes they learn from the experience.

I am puzzled why you would accuse me of making up such a lie on an annonymous board. Would there be some benefit to me by doing that?
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Curious. You say you don't really ponder over these issues very long, you write what comes to mind in the seconds after reading an article. But you say your best friend died in a very similar manner. So that didn't even cross your mind when you wrote your first post? Something that traumatic would have been the first thing I'd have thought of when I read this story. Even though your account has all the markings of a self-serving made-up story, I'm not going to say you made it up, but I will say this: I don't believe a word of it.
Also, you wonder if I'd call it rash if you found me drowning and saved me. Of course not. I'd thank you for it. But the wonderment you are feeling is based on your misreading of what I said earlier: I didn't say saving the drowning fellow was rash; I said your advice to the 28 year old to beat up his friends was rash. Not very good reading comprehension, sir. And no, I didn't grow up in a Norman Rockwell painting, I grew up in the Selby/Lexington area of Saint Paul. And yes I did trade a few punches with my childhood peers, but never in my adult life.
But let's get to the question we all are waiting for you to answer. Did you catch up with guys who let you buddy drown and did you trade punches with them? If so, did it correct their selfishness, cowardliness and irresponsibility? After all, according you you that WAS your goal, no? In other words--in adult words--were your actions aligned with your goal and was your choice of options effective? Labrat, you have some issues to work through before you give thought-free advice to someone else. It's ok to be angry but there are more effective ways to channel it.
And with that, I'm done with this conversation. I'll leave it to the readership to decide what to make of your comments and mine.
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#33
Aug 28, 2010
 
Labratt wrote:
In light of your "know-it-all" pedant accusation, I toyed with ignoring your claim ...[I] think that you are guilty of some embellishment yourself. You probably have never thrown a real punch. You are obviously bright enough to have talked your way out of most encounters, and you are unable to distinguish the difference between assult and battery from a garden variety whippin... I am puzzled why you would accuse me of making up such a lie on an annonymous board. Would there be some benefit to me by doing that?
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Embellishment? What embellishment? First, you say I probably have never thrown a real punch. Well, you're right, I never have, at least not in my adult life. I flat out told you that. Second, the reason I never did, and you're mostly right about this too, is that I am bright enough and mature enough to have talked my way through (not out of) encounters that could have led to violence. Third, you're also right that I can't (I'd say don't instead of can't) distinguish between a "garden variety whippin" and assault and battery. There may be a difference in degree but not in nature, according to the law. So you hit the trifecta of being right, but paradoxically enough, you're still wrong.

And I didn't say you made up a lie; I said I just don't believe you, the reason being that it just doesn't jibe with your earlier statement that you don't ponder things before you write about them. My not believing you is my problem, not yours, and I accept that. But if you did make up a story, I'd say the reason would be garden variety ego protection: You either can't or won't admit you gave thoughtless and woefully bad advice to the 28 year old fellow in the news story.

You seem too intelligent to cast yourself as a candidate for poster boy for what I call Abbo's theory of criminal behavior--the inability to think even ten seconds into the future about the consequences of your actions. Come on, Labratt, don't be that guy.

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Well Abbo, I don't recall ever having my arguments disassembled so systematically and effectively before. I have always felt strongly that watching a man expire for any reason without some sort of attempted intervention is a grave sin of omission. Having said that, I must say that if the law doesn't view it that way, it is not a good idea to take things into your own hands. In the unlikely event that our 28 year old victim has been waiting for the nod from me to go after the ineffectual fellow pontooners, my opinion now is to resist the temptation to physically attack these feckless fools and attempt to draw attention to their folly in another way.

Abbo, you are a stimulating poster with alot of knowledge and character. Thanks for the exchange.
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Embellishment? What embellishment? First, you say I probably have never thrown a real punch. Well, you're right, I never have, at least not in my adult life. I flat out told you that. Second, the reason I never did, and you're mostly right about this too, is that I am bright enough and mature enough to have talked my way through (not out of) encounters that could have led to violence. Third, you're also right that I can't (I'd say don't instead of can't) distinguish between a "garden variety whippin" and assault and battery. There may be a difference in degree but not in nature, according to the law. So you hit the trifecta of being right, but paradoxically enough, you're still wrong.
And I didn't say you made up a lie; I said I just don't believe you, the reason being that it just doesn't jibe with your earlier statement that you don't ponder things before you write about them. My not believing you is my problem, not yours, and I accept that. But if you did make up a story, I'd say the reason would be garden variety ego protection: You either can't or won't admit you gave thoughtless and woefully bad advice to the 28 year old fellow in the news story.
You seem too intelligent to cast yourself as a candidate for poster boy for what I call Abbo's theory of criminal behavior--the inability to think even ten seconds into the future about the consequences of your actions. Come on, Labratt, don't be that guy.
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Well Abbo, I don't recall ever having my arguments disassembled so systematically and effectively before. I have always felt strongly that watching a man expire for any reason without some sort of attempted intervention is a grave sin of omission. Having said that, I must say that if the law doesn't view it that way, it is not a good idea to take things into your own hands. In the unlikely event that our 28 year old victim has been waiting for the nod from me to go after the ineffectual fellow pontooners, my opinion now is to resist the temptation to physically attack these feckless fools and attempt to draw attention to their folly in another way.
Abbo, you are a stimulating poster with alot of knowledge and character. Thanks for the exchange.
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I read you post and then sat speechless for about five minutes. I still don't know exactly what to say. Thank you seems inadequate but it's all I have so I'll say it. Thank you, Labratt. If anything I said in this exchange had anything to do with bringing you to the realization you have come to, I'm happy and flattered, but now, knowing you a little bit better, it's my guess you'd have reached that realization on your own. If there are any posters still following this thread, they will be enriched by your display of what true character means. I hope and expect we'll cross paths again on these pages.

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#36
Aug 28, 2010
 
The gratitude is for me to give to you friend. That incident happened in 1975 when I was 24 years old and I harbored alot of baggage and ill will for a long time. You are right, I may have come to the right conclusion.......some day. I hear alot of opinion on this board, but hold out for the occasional pearl of wisdom. Thanks for providing one.
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I read you post and then sat speechless for about five minutes. I still don't know exactly what to say. Thank you seems inadequate but it's all I have so I'll say it. Thank you, Labratt. If anything I said in this exchange had anything to do with bringing you to the realization you have come to, I'm happy and flattered, but now, knowing you a little bit better, it's my guess you'd have reached that realization on your own. If there are any posters still following this thread, they will be enriched by your display of what true character means. I hope and expect we'll cross paths again on these pages.
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A teenager on a jet ski being useful, now that is news.

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