Clear Lake experiencing phenomenal weed growth

[Soda Bay]

NorCal 73, could not agree with your comments more.

Samiam, I do try and read everything I can to educate myself on the lake and I am not disagreeing with the points you have made with regards to lake history. I also don't belive what many of us are stating as personal experience is incorrect. We are looking at it from a short term perspective compared to your long term version I am also not as concerned about my home value as I am with the issues that come with houses that sit on the market and remain vacant.

[samiam]

Soda Bay wrote:

NorCal 73, could not agree with your comments more.
Samiam, I do try and read everything I can to educate myself on the lake and I am not disagreeing with the points you have made with regards to lake history. I also don't belive what many of us are stating as personal experience is incorrect. We are looking at it from a short term perspective compared to your long term version I am also not as concerned about my home value as I am with the issues that come with houses that sit on the market and remain vacant.

We agree 100%. If you read back norcal has been telling me that because I don't live on the lake I have no credibility. He even refered to scientists as something like "educated desk jockies". Research is what is needed when deciding what is good for the lake, both short term as well as long. norcal seems to thing that testimonials from a few paople that are fortunate enough to have houses on the water is all that is needed to make informed decisions in regards to what is our best plan of action, that is if any action at all is warranted. in regards to houses in your neighborhood if they asked $5,000,000 they will not sell and if they ask $5.00 it will. The true value is somewhere in between. Whether there is weeds or not, if a house remains on the market it is due to the unrealistic expectations of the seller.
This lake has a long history of people doing really stupid things to try to make it "better". Unfortunatly when it comes to people like norcal their answer is to ruin the natural balance of the lake just to make it a little easier for them to run their ski boats.

[norcal73]

Eurasian watermilfoil. It is a non-native invasive plant in Clear Lake. It causes problems with boat props and engine damage at times. Creates problems with native plant diversity. Inhibites water circulation. Also causes significant increases in mosquitoes. It started in the 1990s as well. Same period as the hydrilla was found. We are not trying to bash anyone. Just concerned third generation recreationists of Clear Lake who care. You can ask any local who has been here before the 1990s about this lake. They will tell you it was green with algae and smelled at times, but no prop clogging weeds.

[norcal73]

If there is a safe way to fix the weed issue, so be it. Sorry to any scientists doing research on this lake. It just made me pissed when a researcher brought up the idea that this lake was improving (weed issue) when I asked him face-to face last year. He sits at a desk all day and takes info from workers on the lake.

samiam wrote:

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We agree 100%. If you read back norcal has been telling me that because I don't live on the lake I have no credibility. He even refered to scientists as something like "educated desk jockies". Research is what is needed when deciding what is good for the lake, both short term as well as long. norcal seems to thing that testimonials from a few paople that are fortunate enough to have houses on the water is all that is needed to make informed decisions in regards to what is our best plan of action, that is if any action at all is warranted. in regards to houses in your neighborhood if they asked $5,000,000 they will not sell and if they ask $5.00 it will. The true value is somewhere in between. Whether there is weeds or not, if a house remains on the market it is due to the unrealistic expectations of the seller.
This lake has a long history of people doing really stupid things to try to make it "better". Unfortunatly when it comes to people like norcal their answer is to ruin the natural balance of the lake just to make it a little easier for them to run their ski boats.

[My dog is smarter]

"Eurasian watermilfoil. It is a non-native invasive plant in Clear Lake. It causes problems with boat props and engine damage at times. Creates problems with native plant diversity. Inhibites water circulation. Also causes significant increases in mosquitoes. It started in the 1990s as well."

EWM was there long before hydrilla. But lets just say your correct. What are you going to do with the 1000's of acres of Sago or Coontail or any other native's out there?

[norcal73]

Non-native. Since we cant post pics of the early days on here. Stop by the Lakeport Museum and ask to see photos of the lake back in the day. Most of the plants you see now does not exist back then. Ty for ringing in on the Sago pondweed and Coontail. If there is a safe method possible, we are all in on the idea.

My dog is smarter wrote:

"Eurasian watermilfoil. It is a non-native invasive plant in Clear Lake. It causes problems with boat props and engine damage at times. Creates problems with native plant diversity. Inhibites water circulation. Also causes significant increases in mosquitoes. It started in the 1990s as well."
EWM was there long before hydrilla. But lets just say your correct. What are you going to do with the 1000's of acres of Sago or Coontail or any other native's out there?

[Old sea lawyer]

Are there phosphates in the detergents sold around the lake? Along with nitrates in fertilizer they promote plant growth. Has AV not explained that? He says that he knows everything.

[Provocateur]

norcal73: You mentioned "do whatever it takes to improve our Lake's condition". like getting and having more control of the water, bringing back all the tulles and marshlands, since these are major factors to the life of the lake? Or just throw some poison in it? It's a lake not a bathtub. Continued poor handling of deaths on and around the lake and associated bad press will take as long to fix as fixing the lake.

[rdn]

there are some that believe that the poisons that are being used to killed the weeds r becoming a fertilizer for the weeds.