Harbor plan would hurt boaters - Hawaii Editorials

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Recreational Renaissance Plan B and its rule amendments will raise harbor fees in all state small boat harbors to an extent described as "modest." This is ridiculous; the increase will devastate one group of members of the boating community.
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Hilo boy

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Boy that sure is going to kill boating. This state gov. is full of incomptment slugs who don't know what their doing. FIRE EM FIRE EM FIRE EM
Kalli

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Typical state rip off without regard to consequences.
waimea jim

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Boat=black hole into which a person pours tons of money never to be recovered again.
typical

Honolulu, HI

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governments are crashing in on themselves...

typical capitalist society... everyone loses
Snookie Pie

Lahaina, HI

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Nov 16, 2009
 
Owning a boat is like owning an alligator. All you do is feed it.

You need fresh water and clean air...swim the Molokai channel.
Fisherman

Lanai City, HI

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There must be another side to the story.
Does the state see a trend of b-u-m-s getting old, barely seaworthy boats, for practically nothing and mooring them out there? There are probably lots of boats around that are in poor shape, that have not been maintained (with the fuel prices and the economy the way it's been) and the engines don't even work.
If there are lots of them out there, and there is a big storm, they could sink or wash up on shores causing a lot of environmental damage (fuel and oil spills) and cost a lot of money to clean up.
Get a good job and buy a house.
I wonder if those twins are maintaining that boat well? It costs a lot to keep a 35' boat floating and moving.
Forward Observer

Honolulu, HI

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The plan to raise fees should be opposed not so much because of the economic impact on live aboard boaters but rather because it cannot be justified for the reasons it is being proposed. Sorry, but I do not agree with those who confuse living aboard a boat in a state owned recreational boat harbor with state subsidized housing. The reason that increasing fees cannot be justified by the DLNR is simply because the current chair cannot give assurances that the monies raised will be used for the improvement of recreational boating. Rather this proposal is simply a thinly disguised means of financing the other operations of the DLNR. While we are aware that the state's general fund is suffering from the reduction in tax collections due to the poor economy, the Boating Special Fund, which derives its revenues from permit and registration fees, rents from fastlands and moorings fees, and government grants is largely unaffected by the state of the economy. Costs charged to the Boating Special Fund have been increasing, however. The only explanation is that more of DLNR's common expenses are being charged off to Boating. This should make it clear that the DLNR chair simply views the Boating Special Fund as a slush fund to finance DLNR operations. Despite promises to use the increased fees for the improvement of facilities, the simple fact is that current chair may not be around long enough to be held accountable for those promises after the fees are increased. Boating facilities have been in gradual disrepair for the past 40 years. The boating community can wait another year for a new administration to take office before agreeing to any plan to increase fees in order to build new facilities and improve maintenance.
Dman

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There is a simple solution. Allow Division of Boating to lease lands surrounding the Harbors for commercial use consistent with the surrounding community. The increase in lease revenues from these lands can be used for Harbor improvements and maintanence. Otherwise raise the fees!
Kaaawa43

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The State of Hawaii NEEDS to get out of the Marina business !

Lease the marina space to existing commercial operators and let THE MARKET determine the price of slips - that easy.

1. The State would MAKE money on this.
2. The taxpayers don't get saddled with the expense of dock replacement (so long needed in many facilities)
3. Less State employees - these are EXPENSIVE employees, people - benefits, retirement, etc - for what ? To sit in air-conditioned offices and push paperwork around ?- Let the private sector do what it does best.

Yes, slips in Waikiki - the most desireable harbor in the State - probably WILL become more expensive - ALL the citizens of the (entire) State HAVE been subsidizing it for far TOO LONG. THe attificially-low rates have created a slum of near-dead vessels that rarely navigate and are only floating bedrooms. When the new (private) facility at Ko Olina gets more per-foot than the State gets in Waikiki, you KNOW it's wrong.
fellowreader

Makawao, HI

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Nov 16, 2009
 
Are these twins living on their boat? If so, I would like them to know that $2100 is an average rent in many areas of O`ahu for a moderate condo or home. I haven't seen anywhere that $2100 would pay an average mortgage.
Julia

Aiea, HI

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Dec 8, 2009
 
Dear Fisherman,
Could you possibly be thinking of a stereotype?
It's true that there are junk boats in Hawaii's harbors (e.g. Keehi)
but ours is not one of them. I am a Ph.D. of retirement age, our boat is neat and seaworthy, and boating is our lifestyle. We do not deserve to be condemned as bums.
Fisherman wrote:
There must be another side to the story.
Does the state see a trend of b-u-m-s getting old, barely seaworthy boats, for practically nothing and mooring them out there? There are probably lots of boats around that are in poor shape, that have not been maintained (with the fuel prices and the economy the way it's been) and the engines don't even work.
If there are lots of them out there, and there is a big storm, they could sink or wash up on shores causing a lot of environmental damage (fuel and oil spills) and cost a lot of money to clean up.
Get a good job and buy a house.
I wonder if those twins are maintaining that boat well? It costs a lot to keep a 35' boat floating and moving.
waimea jim

United States

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Dec 9, 2009
 
Julia wrote:
Dear Fisherman,
Could you possibly be thinking of a stereotype?
It's true that there are junk boats in Hawaii's harbors (e.g. Keehi)
but ours is not one of them. I am a Ph.D. of retirement age, our boat is neat and seaworthy, and boating is our lifestyle. We do not deserve to be condemned as bums.
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If boating is your lifestyle, when was the last time your boat left the slip?

If your boat isn't making waves, it's just a black hole.

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