Perdock testifies: Other witnesses include owner of sailboat an...

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LAKEPORT Capt. Russell Perdock of the Lake County Sheriff's Office testified Tuesday in the trial against Bismarck Dinius that he saw the green tint of his navigation lights silhouetted off a darkened sailboat immediately before colliding with it on April 29, 2006.
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CA boater

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Aug 12, 2009
 
San Jose -- I hope you don't own a boat.
James

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Aug 12, 2009
 
We have ate the stale cake so long we don't care,give me so more.
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Aug 12, 2009
 
Well Pal, your entitled to your opinion. Haltom is a very good attorney, you would know that by sitting in on the case. He is up against some real corrupt people and I feel he is playing with a full deck. Lets wait and see what happens. At the least Dinius will walk!
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Aug 12, 2009
 
well Katy, this is an improvement over previous reports, though we are grown-ups and can handle those longer sentences. You got most of the important data in there, though it could have been arrainged in a bit more linear fashion, a small gripe but something to work on. Overall good job, keep fine-tuning it and read ellcyenn everyday to compare your work with EL's, when it gets close you'll know you're doing good.
Just a guy in Virginia

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Aug 12, 2009
 
Philip - Your apparent avarice for the Record-Bee's reporting is a bit of a distraction from the topic at hand. I'm not maknig a value judgement as to whether you're wrong or right, but, your posts that merely complain about the quality of reporting don't do a lot to further the discussion of whether or not the prosecution is getting it right in the Lynn Thornton tragedy.

Respectfully, Just a guy in Virginia
Sail55

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Aug 12, 2009
 
From the article: "Perdock said the sailboat's lights weren't on when he struck it. Minutes before, Perdock saw lights of another boat along the shore and adjusted his course slightly to avoid the vessel.

He considers himself an experienced nighttime boater on Clear Lake and explained how he navigates in the dark.

"I try to find a bright landmark on the shoreline, if there's something between you and the light it may be silhouetted," Perdock said. "

How can we believe Perdock's statement that the sailboat's lights weren't on? His own statement shows he's deliberately not looking for lights on the water, but rather silhouetted images against the shore lights.

When he motored back to Beats Working II, the sailboat nav lights were off due to the effects of the collision. If the wires between the lights and the fuse panel/battery are broken, of course there will not be any lights!
Sail55

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Aug 12, 2009
 
After the speedboat hit the sailboat Perdock looked to see if his boat was sinking, checked on his two passengers and heard calls for help from the sailboat. Perdock called dispatch three or four times to give information to emergency personnel, he said.

Why didn't he call 911? He says calling "dispatch" was faster. I guess it never occurred to him that there's a problem with having the people who work for him conduct an investigation of an incident in which he was one of the two parties involved. A 911 call would have created an impartial report, allowed the 911 operator to mobilize the appropriate resources, including resources from CHP and perhaps helicopter med-evac for Lynn.

It would have provided an opportunity for impartial investigators to be on the scene at the first opportuity. Every law enforcement person involved on the evening of the accident was subject to Perdock's authority and review.

Perdock received condolences and a hug from his boss, the sheriff, upon his arrival on the shore. Ed and Dotti, passengers on the sailboat, didn't even receive first aid then and had to beg for a ride to their car.

I don't know any of these people personally, but everything I've read here, on the other Lake County newspaper and other commentary, it seems very much as if the wrong person is in the defense chair.
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Aug 12, 2009
 
Just a guy in Virginia wrote:
Philip - Your apparent avarice for the Record-Bee's reporting is a bit of a distraction from the topic at hand. I'm not maknig a value judgement as to whether you're wrong or right, but, your posts that merely complain about the quality of reporting don't do a lot to further the discussion of whether or not the prosecution is getting it right in the Lynn Thornton tragedy.
Respectfully, Just a guy in Virginia
a lot of people don't read elcyen, so they don't know what they're missing. Katy may turn into a good reporter, but she needs a little guidence, so I'm trying to help her. If she can manage to get good, complete coverage out to her readers that will be a benefit to all of us, and that IS relevant. And no, the prosecution is NOT getting it right, with Hopkins running the show they never will!
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Aug 12, 2009
 
Sail55 wrote:
After the speedboat hit the sailboat Perdock looked to see if his boat was sinking, checked on his two passengers and heard calls for help from the sailboat. Perdock called dispatch three or four times to give information to emergency personnel, he said.
Why didn't he call 911? He says calling "dispatch" was faster. I guess it never occurred to him that there's a problem with having the people who work for him conduct an investigation of an incident in which he was one of the two parties involved. A 911 call would have created an impartial report, allowed the 911 operator to mobilize the appropriate resources, including resources from CHP and perhaps helicopter med-evac for Lynn.
It would have provided an opportunity for impartial investigators to be on the scene at the first opportuity. Every law enforcement person involved on the evening of the accident was subject to Perdock's authority and review.
Perdock received condolences and a hug from his boss, the sheriff, upon his arrival on the shore. Ed and Dotti, passengers on the sailboat, didn't even receive first aid then and had to beg for a ride to their car.
I don't know any of these people personally, but everything I've read here, on the other Lake County newspaper and other commentary, it seems very much as if the wrong person is in the defense chair.
It is known that when you call 911 from a cell phone you may not get a dispatcher from your area, it may not even be from your state that is why it was faster to call there direct line. If you look in the phone book you to can find that there is a non emergency # and a emergency # then 911. I myself have my local emergency # programed in to my cell phone and not the 911
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Aug 12, 2009
 
Rose,

The point is not fast or slow response; the point is impartial investigation of this accident. Perdock's subordinates, even if they are the most honorable, should not be put in a position where they must choose between supporting their superior or conducting an honest investigation.

This isn't even putting the fox in charge of the chicken coop; this is putting one of the participants in charge of the investigation of his own wrong-doing.

To preserve the integrity of law enforcement and its public image, this should have been investigated by outside people from the start. A 911 call from Perdock would have helped.

We don't know what Perdock said on his dispatch call. We don't know what the dispatch clerk related to others as a result. Did Perdock, with the implied authority of his position, state that the sailboat lights were off when he hit the boat? If so, is that the reason the Sheriff and the DA have maintained for over three years that the sailboat lights were off, even though most witnesses and experts have now stated the opposite.

There's so much wrong with not following proper procedure here.
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Aug 12, 2009
 
Sail55 wrote:
Rose,
To preserve the integrity of law enforcement and its public image, this should have been investigated by outside people from the start. A 911 call from Perdock would have helped.
No, the point is the 911 dispatcher would have taken the time to transfer Perdock to the LCSO dispatch center, wasting time. They would have had no idea who Perdock was or that there was some desire or need to have an impartial investigation. You're confusing an emergency RESPONSE with the investigation.
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We don't know what Perdock said on his dispatch call.
Actually we do, the recordings were found.
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Aug 12, 2009
 
Sail55 wrote:
Perdock received condolences and a hug from his boss, the sheriff, upon his arrival on the shore. Ed and Dotti, passengers on the sailboat, didn't even receive first aid then and had to beg for a ride to their car.
There was laughter heard after the collision. That must have been one heck of a party on that boat. Maybe they were "feeling no pain."
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Aug 12, 2009
 
CAV wrote:
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There was laughter heard after the collision. That must have been one heck of a party on that boat. Maybe they were "feeling no pain."
What are you implying? Surely you can't believe that.
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Aug 12, 2009
 
I say again it started the next day by not taking statements from those that said there were lights on the sailboat. The statement should have be taken then this might not be the mess it is.So all looked the other way and Mr.Dinius has payed high price. The good that is coming from this is the dishonest are exposed.GOBS to be looked at.
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Aug 12, 2009
 
Wow,

When I call 911, they never transfer me anywhere. They take my information and relay it to those who can respond.

In the case of a vehicle accident, I would expect that they would notify law enforcement and medical people. If the person on the phone identified himself as a police officer as well as a participant in the accident, I would expect the law enforcement agency to be one unconnected with the officer....therefore not LCSO dispatch.

Maybe I'm wrong in that expectation.

DA Hopkins just asked one of the people who saw the accident and called 911 to report it, and talked to dispatch,[paraphrase here...} Why did you think they would have the time to talk with you?

Testimony so far has shown that the response to Perdock's call focused on making Perdock feel better and putting the needs of those on the sailboat on a much lower level of concern and response.

As a law enforcement officer, Perdock has/had an obligation to avoid appearance of conflict of interest. He had a duty to display concern for the injured people on the sailboat....He accused them of boating without lights, offered a first aid kit, but apparently didn't offer to do anything further in the way of getting medical assistance for the sailboaters. He could (and maybe did, altho I haven't seen testimoy or other report of this) have told the sailboaters that medical help would be available when they got to shore. Testimony yesterday indicates that, in fact, some of the sailboat passengers received no medical care and little consideration upon arrival on shore.

The 911 recordings which Perdock admitted deleting when he received them in email were found, no thanks to the Prosecution.

What about the logs of the dispatch operator? I've seen nothing about that. I'm fairly sure that the county sheriff doesn't arrive at every accident which occurs on a weekend evening. If he felt it necessary to go to the scene, perhaps he should have requested some CHP people to appear as well. Or maybe some Sonoma County police could have made the trip....they're conducting Perdock's internal affairs investigation...Wouldn't it have been better to investigate the original accident than the coverup?
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Aug 12, 2009
 
Perdocks own description of night-time navigational technique dis-credits his testimony that "the lights were not on".

He didnt use the proper technique of locating and identifying navigational lights.

If the speed a vessel is traveling neccesitates a change in navigational tactics, then one should slow down so as to be able to individually identify navigational lights instead of using lights on land.

Specifically it is proper navigational technique to use land based lights for position reconciliation but not as a way of identifying and avoiding colision with other vessels.

He was going to fast and didnt proper night time navigational technique.

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Aug 12, 2009
 
What a poor excuse for reportage:

(1) Silhouettes are made by light sources behind objects, not in front of them. No light from the viewers position can cause a silhouette.

(2) The speed of the boat can be computed by a competent accident reconstruction specialist. The calculation is a very simple equation. I have serious doubt about any such "expert" who claims 70 mile per hour would be safe under those conditions, i.e. no headlights on the motor boat, total darkness and a lake where many unpowered boats of several kinds may be anywhere on its' surface.

This story only continues to unfold as a comedy of utter incompetents in the cast as well as those reporting on it.
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Aug 12, 2009
 
God Adrian, you are a piece of work. You need to get a life. I mean a real one.

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Aug 12, 2009
 
sail and power wrote:
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Specifically it is proper navigational technique to use land based lights for position reconciliation but not as a way of identifying and avoiding colision with other vessels.
He was going to fast and didnt proper night time navigational technique.
Exactly! Perdock did more wrongs than rights that night. Dinius MAY be found guilty of a BUI but Purdock is guilty of involuntary manslaughter at the very least.
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Aug 12, 2009
 
Sail55 wrote:
Wow,
When I call 911, they never transfer me anywhere. They take my information and relay it to those who can respond.
In the case of a vehicle accident, I would expect that they would notify law enforcement and medical people. If the person on the phone identified himself as a police officer as well as a participant in the accident, I would expect the law enforcement agency to be one unconnected with the officer....therefore not LCSO dispatch.
Maybe I'm wrong in that expectation.
DA Hopkins just asked one of the people who saw the accident and called 911 to report it, and talked to dispatch,[paraphrase here...} Why did you think they would have the time to talk with you?
Testimony so far has shown that the response to Perdock's call focused on making Perdock feel better and putting the needs of those on the sailboat on a much lower level of concern and response.
As a law enforcement officer, Perdock has/had an obligation to avoid appearance of conflict of interest. He had a duty to display concern for the injured people on the sailboat....He accused them of boating without lights, offered a first aid kit, but apparently didn't offer to do anything further in the way of getting medical assistance for the sailboaters. He could (and maybe did, altho I haven't seen testimoy or other report of this) have told the sailboaters that medical help would be available when they got to shore. Testimony yesterday indicates that, in fact, some of the sailboat passengers received no medical care and little consideration upon arrival on shore.
The 911 recordings which Perdock admitted deleting when he received them in email were found, no thanks to the Prosecution.
What about the logs of the dispatch operator? I've seen nothing about that. I'm fairly sure that the county sheriff doesn't arrive at every accident which occurs on a weekend evening. If he felt it necessary to go to the scene, perhaps he should have requested some CHP people to appear as well. Or maybe some Sonoma County police could have made the trip....they're conducting Perdock's internal affairs investigation...Wouldn't it have been better to investigate the original accident than the coverup?
remember they are descibing 911 three years ago. Here in lake county it was true then not sure of current status.
In first response I would expect the closest units ( ie sheriff ) to respond in order to safeguard life. Once at the scene and medical first responders are giving aid, THAT is where sheriff's dept. should have called another agency to secure the scene, collect evidence and blood samples from drivers. The CHP is the agency that comes to mind. treating both parties equal at the beginning of the investigation. This failure is all on Rod Mitchel and I hope everyhone remembers this when voting next year

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