Survivor: Football players lost at sea took off lifejackets

Full story: Chicago Tribune

The sole survivor of a tragic boating accident in the Gulf of Mexico told investigators that his three fishing companions, which included two NFL players, took off their lifejackets and drifted out to sea, ...
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Jack

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Somebody had better look in to the possibility that the one who was rescued didn't do something to harm the ones who weren't.
Inda Right

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Mar 5, 2009
 
Very suspicious comment. I understand hypothermia can cause one to become delusional, but TWO people both deciding to give up hope and ditch their life jackets? Doesn't make sense to me. Something's fishy...
Chicagoan

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Mar 5, 2009
 
Jack and Inda -
Consider the possibility that the survivor was hypothermic and these remembrances are a result of that. He may just have imagined that as he fought to stay coherent enough to hold on and stay alive.
Stu

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Mar 5, 2009
 
not only were they hypothermic , but also without water. very possible that these guys were delusional.
Snake Pliskin

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Mar 5, 2009
 
I'd start to look into this guy's financial dealings and history. I don't know all the facts but I cant see 2 NFL players just "giving up" after 48 hours, let alone 4 hours.
rosco

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It was probably a murder by the survivor, he wouldn't let them climb on the boat with him. He should be charged, or at least sued.
Pat

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Mar 5, 2009
 
Simply tragic.
Brian

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Two big NFL players remove their life vests after just 2 to 4 hours??
I played High School football and know how tough these men must've been. "Someone" took their life vests and left them for dead in high waves... it was a matter of "every man for himself". Most life vests only have a limited amount of time for floatation... the more vests one has the longer the life of floatation... also, fishing boats always have knives and other sharp objects... did "someone" go retrieve a weapon? The boat needs to be thouroughly investigated. Too little has been mentioned about this horrific tragedy. Personally I would love to be left in 63 degree water with a life vest and high waves for 4 hours just to prove I could survive... I was just swimming in 73 degree water for several hours this past weekend and never even felt a slight chill. Someone is playing stupid or not getting paid enough to care. God bless the family and victims of this sad loss.

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Mar 5, 2009
 
Survival time in cold water varies, and is dependent on several factors like body fat, clothing and water temperature, which is the most critical. That these four were top-notch athletes would suggest that they didnít have high percentages of body fat, so heat loss would be accelerated.

As for water temperature, thereís a big difference between surviving in 60 degree and 70 degree water.
At 60 degrees, the average survival time for a person in street clothes is about 5+/- hours with exhaustion or unconsciousness occurring in as little as 2 hours. At 70 degrees, exhaustion or unconsciousness begin between 3 and 12 hours, but the survival time increases dramatically to upwards of 20 hours. If the water temp was 63 degrees, their chances were not good. The survivor was not totally immersed, which is why heís still alive. And even in a best-case scenario, itís highly unlikely that any of the three other men could have survived immersed in the water for more than 15-20 hours.

The idea that any of these men has the presence of mind to calculate and carry out premeditated murder in order to acquire more life jackets is ludicrous. I donít know what type of PFDs they had, but one PFD of just about any type would have kept them afloat for far longer than they could have survived the effects of hypothermia.
A known effect of hypothermia is paradoxical undressing, when victims remove their clothes because they begin to feel warm, despite the tremendous loss of body heat.
When that happens, death is imminent.
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well one thing is certain 3 people are missing and they mean alot to alot of people so i think the best would be to ease up and give everyone involved a break let them make it we were not there and i thank God for that how about you? why belittle and be cruel when you really don't know the FACTS!you just know what you hear and read but you weren't there!
my physical therapist said the mistake was ankering the boat during the storm.and for mr know it all no one knows all of anything and what pray tell does the current president have to do with any of this?
let's get a life and be happy and especially be glad you are not in the shoes of the missing or their families.
tenesha

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Something just doesn't seem right with this situation. I would believe the survivors story if there was another survivor but there isn't. That young man knows more than what he telling. The detectives need to issue him a lie detector test. This is clearly a murder investigation. I feel sorry for the families as they will never have closure. My heart goes out to everyone invovled in this situation. God bless.
Danielle

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Mar 7, 2009
 
What I don't understand is, why are they saying the three are still missing? I don't get it. If & more than likely they are presumed dead, why do they keep stating the 3 are missing?

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Mar 7, 2009
 
Danielle wrote:
What I don't understand is, why are they saying the three are still missing? I don't get it. If & more than likely they are presumed dead, why do they keep stating the 3 are missing?
They have been presumed as dead now. The survivor's doctor said that he had hypothermia really bad and it was a miracle that he was still alive, so there is an extremely slim to none chance that the others are still alive now.
Danielle

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Mar 7, 2009
 
That's what I thought. It just really didn't make sense to me while I was coming across other sites it states they are missing. Even on the news it says the three are missing. And I was like why don't they just say they are gone.

Do you think the bodies will resurface? Or the remains be washed ashore?
Isindia Jeruveri

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Mar 8, 2009
 
We may never know.
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Mar 8, 2009
 
tenesha wrote:
Something just doesn't seem right with this situation. I would believe the survivors story if there was another survivor but there isn't. That young man knows more than what he telling. The detectives need to issue him a lie detector test. This is clearly a murder investigation. I feel sorry for the families as they will never have closure. My heart goes out to everyone invovled in this situation. God bless.
First of all, dip shit, a polygraph, or lie detector test to you idiots, is not evidence in a court of law and the fact that these stupid topix morons (in the comfort of their homes) would attempt to judge this person who lived is stupid.
I have always heard that topix boards and chat rooms are the bathroom walls of the internet and it is not hard to understand or believe this fact. Second, please at least one of you idiots should have the reading ability to understand that THREE young men died, one of them an Ex South Florida College Football Player.
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Mar 9, 2009
 
Danielle wrote:
That's what I thought. It just really didn't make sense to me while I was coming across other sites it states they are missing. Even on the news it says the three are missing. And I was like why don't they just say they are gone.
Do you think the bodies will resurface? Or the remains be washed ashore?
Possibility.

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Mar 11, 2009
 
I think there is more than what is being told by Nick. That is a bunch of BS about that they could have suffered from hypothermia I could have believe that if there were bodies to prove it. There were four men and four life jackets Nick was wearing one and they found one, so where are the other two? No bodies and no life jackets, at this point someone needs to dig a little deeper for the truth. I think it was a set up and I believe this because there was a fisherman that went out at the same time as the four men did along with another boat and he says that he followed behind the other two boats and one hand four big guys on it and once the water started getting rough and the waves started reaching 6 feet he started to head back in but noticed their boat kept going out and he wondered why they would continue to keep going with the bad weather. Now, who was on the third boat? Could they have been meeting someone? This raises a lot of questions and they are just not paying attention or like Brian said someone is playing stupid! I notice that her never once said anything good about the NFL players but they just gave up and praised Will to the up most and he was the hero in all of this but its funny that he's missing to. That was all a show because he couldn't possibly make Will look bad being they were friends since the 6th grade. I honestly think Will was innocent in all of it and they had to get rid of him because they weren't about to leave any witnesses. I feel the coast guards have a pretty good idea of what could have went down out there but just don't get paid enough to give a crap. Nick looks a little suspect to me. I just feel so sorry for the families of these men and I pray that God will give them strength to indure what they are really going to have to face when and if it all comes out. May God bless them.
Carina

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Mar 11, 2009
 
Ms.Jaguar you have a point.I was telling someone else, it seems like it was a ploy/setup. No bodies whatsoever surfaced as of yet! Now I don't know how long it takes for a body to resurface, after drowning. It's just crazy! I missed the part about the other man on a boat following them..where did you find that?

Crazy thing is, today is Marquis birthday. Happy birthday Marquis, know you are loved and God has his arms around you now.

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Mar 12, 2009
 
That was an article that I just so happen to find just searching for articles on google but its funny that this gentleman was never mentioned nor his story. I thought it was strange from day one. As far as the bodies go I don't think they will ever surface being that I don't believe that their bodies are lost at sea or that they drowned for that matter. Nick may have been a trainer but these guys have intense training consistanly for football so these guys would have 10 times the stamina than Nick does if not more so that comment they made about him being a trainer is irrelavant as far as I'm concerned. To answer your question I'm not sure how long it takes for a body to wash up but I had a cousin that was killed and thrown over bored into the water and he washed up 2wks later so it could be sooner or maybe longer. I know being that it's Marquis's b-day it makes it even harder for his family to deal with their lost. Just to add one last comment and I don't want to sound racist because I'm far from that but if they had found Marquis or Corey without Will or Nick they would have been ready to throw them under the jail if not ready to send them to H---! I'm just calling it how I see it.

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