Judge denies motion to reduce felony charges against Dinius

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Not in Kansas anymore --- wrote:

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The difference between professionals and the GOBs in Lake Co is that GOBs lie about their "mistakes", and then make up excuses when they are finally caught. Upstanding professional people don't try to bury their mistakes at the expense of others. They promptly fess up, apologize, and face the music.

Riiiight!

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Gizmo wrote:

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Funny how the only mistakes made in this case are with conflicting witnesses and evidence that may harm their case, and paint Perdock in a less than favorable light.

What other mistakes would be pointed out?

[Gizmo]

Wow wrote:

<quoted text>What other mistakes would be pointed out?

The date on the blood sample--they claim the hospital messed up; but a witness places Perdock at the scene past midnight.

The two witnesses that were not interviewed, in regards to the lights on the boat, and the speed of Perdock--until they get nailed to the wall.

The lack of follow up by Flynn on Perdock's time line.

The lost tape, which was central dispatch, rather than 911.

Not taking a breathalyer on Perdock---oh that's right, the SO had not taken the time to ensure the equiptment was properly calibrated; but I will bet that your common citizen has taken that very same test in that period of time.

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Gizmo wrote:

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The date on the blood sample--they claim the hospital messed up; but a witness places Perdock at the scene past midnight.
The two witnesses that were not interviewed, in regards to the lights on the boat, and the speed of Perdock--until they get nailed to the wall.
The lack of follow up by Flynn on Perdock's time line.
The lost tape, which was central dispatch, rather than 911.
Not taking a breathalyer on Perdock---oh that's right, the SO had not taken the time to ensure the equiptment was properly calibrated; but I will bet that your common citizen has taken that very same test in that period of time.

OK, but the question was what other mistakes would be pointed out. I'm sure there are more?

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And Central Dispatch is the Public safety Answering Point for 911 calls. So a call to one is the same as a call to the other. The same person answers the telephone.

Except in the case of cellphones, which Perdock was using on the lake. In that case a 911 call goes to Ukiah CHP and would then have to transferred to Central Dispatch, taking valuable time. So by calling his dispatch center on the regular line, Perdock saved time and got resources responding quicker.

[Gizmo]

Wow wrote:

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OK, but the question was what other mistakes would be pointed out. I'm sure there are more?

Okay, I am not following you...those are several of the mistakes that have been pointed out, I am sure that there is more, the defense just got a document dump this week.

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you said:

Funny how the only mistakes made in this case are with conflicting witnesses and evidence that may harm their case, and paint Perdock in a less than favorable light.

I asked what other mistakes WOULD be pointed out, not what other mistakes have already been pointed out.

[Not in Kansas anymore ---]

Wow wrote:

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Riiiight!

Well, thank you for clarifying for all of us exactly what type of ethical standards YOU have -- oh, that's right... you already admitted they were LOW.

[Gizmo]

Wow wrote:

you said:
Funny how the only mistakes made in this case are with conflicting witnesses and evidence that may harm their case, and paint Perdock in a less than favorable light.
I asked what other mistakes WOULD be pointed out, not what other mistakes have already been pointed out.

What not enough incompetence for you with what we know?

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Gizmo wrote:

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What not enough incompetence for you with what we know?

Gizmonster,

Really good, well-thought out discussion and info presented by you this evening. I enjoyed it a lot.

[Justice for all]

Gizmo wrote:

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The date on the blood sample--they claim the hospital messed up; but a witness places Perdock at the scene past midnight.
The two witnesses that were not interviewed, in regards to the lights on the boat, and the speed of Perdock--until they get nailed to the wall.
The lack of follow up by Flynn on Perdock's time line.
The lost tape, which was central dispatch, rather than 911.
Not taking a breathalyer on Perdock---oh that's right, the SO had not taken the time to ensure the equiptment was properly calibrated; but I will bet that your common citizen has taken that very same test in that period of time.

EXACTLY.....and I'm positive now, there is more to come.

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Justice for all wrote:

<quoted text>EXACTLY.....and I'm positive now, there is more to come.

More to come for sure. Prepare yourself Ra...

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Not in Kansas anymore --- wrote:

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Well, thank you for clarifying for all of us exactly what type of ethical standards YOU have -- oh, that's right... you already admitted they were LOW.

Those were expectations, when I was talking about standards, it was about you being below them. HUGE difference as you like to point out.

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Gizmo wrote:

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What not enough incompetence for you with what we know?

Nope! Specifically because much of what has been pointed out is false.

[Gizmo]

Wow wrote:

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Nope! Specifically because much of what has been pointed out is false.

What that I have mentioned has been proven false?

TIA

[Gizmo]

G and O wrote:

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Gizmonster,
Really good, well-thought out discussion and info presented by you this evening. I enjoyed it a lot.

I honestly have no problem with opposing views; I think the only way the truth is going to be known is to honestly hear those that oppose one's beliefs.

I know that there are those here that believe due to their own experiences that the local justice system is fine; I on the other hand due to my experiences feel that much is swept under the rug if they have the 'right' connections.

I have lived in Lake County since 1975, and IMO,'Justice for All' is not always the case.

Even if I disagree with some posters, I respect their right to voice their opinion, I ask the same in return.

[G and O]

Gizmo wrote:

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I honestly have no problem with opposing views; I think the only way the truth is going to be known is to honestly hear those that oppose one's beliefs.
I know that there are those here that believe due to their own experiences that the local justice system is fine; I on the other hand due to my experiences feel that much is swept under the rug if they have the 'right' connections.
I have lived in Lake County since 1975, and IMO,'Justice for All' is not always the case.
Even if I disagree with some posters, I respect their right to voice their opinion, I ask the same in return.

Gizmonster,

The abuse of power is so seductive, I think, and especially in law enforcement. The notion of checks and balances, and internal controls, and rules don't seem to apply to these small town hick counties.

I remember driving my old VW Bug almost off a cliff over in Yolo Co., hitching a ride back to the town of Guinda, and then asking some guys at a bar to help me get it out of the place I left it. It was half off the road half over the side of the cliff. There was no law enforcement anywhere in that agricultural part of the county to be found, so I asked some local guys with a winch to help me out. I was prepared to pay them whatever they asked for the service, but all they wanted was a twelve pack of American beer. My point is that things operate differently, less formally, in small rural counties.

[Not in Kansas anymore ---]

Wow wrote:

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Those were expectations, when I was talking about standards, it was about you being below them. HUGE difference as you like to point out.

NoOoOoOo....I was talking about the difference between GOBs and professionals. There were no expectations discussed. Could be that your standards are so low, that you can't meet normal expectations....I dunno, but I'm not gonna worry about what exactly your major malfunction is. Ciao!

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Not in Kansas anymore --- wrote:

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NoOoOoOo....I was talking about the difference between GOBs and professionals. There were no expectations discussed. Could be that your standards are so low, that you can't meet normal expectations....I dunno, but I'm not gonna worry about what exactly your major malfunction is. Ciao!

Keep telling yourself that. You're comment was actually that a professional would admit the mistake, take what was coming and move on. That's an expectation, no matter how you slice it.

[Not in Kansas anymore ---]

Wow wrote:

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Keep telling yourself that. You're comment was actually that a professional would admit the mistake, take what was coming and move on. That's an expectation, no matter how you slice it.

Expectations are subjective from person to person, and can be difficult to measure.

Standards are the norm, or requirement, and are objective, or measurable.

For business professionals,(which was the topic of our earlier discussion) if you wish to be successful and respected as truly professional, the key is maintaining high standards of behavior -- including honesty, integrity, and self-responsibility. This would include fessing up about any mistakes you made, apologizing, and taking your licks. THEN you make darn sure you don't do it again, if possible.

Now, as I agreed earlier, making a mistake,(i.e., losing the 911 tapes), COULD happen to anyone. However....

The difference is that a person with a strong professional work ethic would not hide that fact, lie about it, and then fail to disclose discoverable evidence to the defense until the eve of trial, all the while wasting taxpayer monies and the Court's time.(Remind you of anyone?)

And let's not forget, those acts are prohibited under the California State Bar's Rules of Professional Conduct, and are cause for discipline, or even being disbarred if the violation is egregious enough. Lawyers in governmental service are held to higher standards than those in private practice, as they have a duty to the public.

Now, wow, my professional standards may only be expectations for you, but that just shows us how diametrically opposed we are. To that, I say, thank god for small favors!