Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -

[Demented Ferret]

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text> Perhaps more people ought to really question exactly why humans are even consuming milk at all, or any foods produced from the maternal lactating secretion of another species. It seems that greedy businesses have won over the majority via tons of propaganda and false claims, and has conditioned people to believe that "milk is good for you" when the fact is, that cows milk is good for, and intended solely for newborn calves, as human milk is meant for human infants and so on. Humans can't seem to "wean" themselves from milk either, and continue to consume milk from other species and products produced from it well into their old age and till death. In the meantime, humans are literally forcing newborn calves away from their mothers within 24-48 hours of being born, and robbing the calves and their mothers' of ever sharing that incredibly beautiful bond of a mother nourishing her offspring.....and it is all done solely for the greed of those who profit without concern about what is natural for the animals, and due to the ignorance of consumers.
If you eat cheese, you are still consuming the milk of another species, the milk that was solely meant for the newborns of the cow, goat or whatever animal it came from. Again, hardly "natural" for humans to consume the milk of another species, and cheese, sour cream, butter, cream cheese, yogurt, whipped cream.....whatever form that non human animals' milk was processed into is STILL completely unnatural and NOT intended for human consumption. That is a FACT.
Again, not only is consuming milk from another species totally unnatural, but it is absolutely cruel. I have witnessed firsthand the trauma of a calf being taken away from his/her mother and it is heart wrenching. Human greed and human ignorance are the biggest causes of needless animal cruelty, suffering and deaths.
<quoted text>How can it NOT be "healthy" or at least "as healthy" by your standards of claiming that eating meat is healthy at all? Meat, as in the flesh of animals, is just THAT, the flesh, muscle, fat, tissues of animals. It can and will be produced without the animal. It is STILL flesh, tissue, muscle. Perhaps they won't be able to produce a liver, brain, testicle, or whatever other organ/body part you or other meat eaters choose to consume, but meat WILL be produced and available for human consumption without harming or killing any animals....it's just a matter of "when" it will happen.

Just reading this stupid post shows me more and more what a nutcase you really are.
Hope you learned something in class today.

[TRUTH]

RetiredArmyNCO wrote:

I enjoy a balanced and healthy diet. I would place my cholesterol and other levels against any vegan here; I have previously posted what those levels are. My diet is based upon moderation and balance. The same diets as my father and his father and as far back as I remember most of the people in my family have lived to old age with the exceptions of those who died early due to accident or conflict.
And as for this huff you keep bringing up, you are quit wrong. You do not have the ability to generate such a response from me.
Change can be either positive or negative. To have change for the sake of change does not make sense.

I also enjoy a balanced and very healthy diet, and I eat so much more of a variety of tasty foods than I ever did when I consumed meat, dairy and eggs. My weight, BMI, and cholesterol level are "super" optimal, and I also have far more energy than ever and rarely ever even have a sniffle. It seems that like you, I also happen to be fortunate to have inherited some good genes. I also am physically active and work out regularly---another plus as you must know.

Who is talking about "having change just for the sake of change"?? I am, and have been talking about making changes that may very well improve our environment, making truly sustainable and organic food sources available locally, reducing (or hopefully eliminating all) diseases and contamination of our foods, and possibly producing an abundance of foods with minimal impact on our Earth and it's resources. I am encouraging change in order to improve the quality of our soil, food, water and air and I do it in hopes that future generations can enjoy a good quality of life. Unlike most of the self serving animal maiming killers on this thread, I do what I do to improve the lives of others, it's not just about "me".

By the way, I am not trying to get a "huffy" response from you, and I am not sure what makes you think that I even care to deliberately agitate such. If you haven't figured it out yet that I'd prefer to converse without the BS and slinging insults, then you aren't as intuitive as I thought. I also will not tolerate being addressed in the vulgar manner from the forum "trolls" and they will be treated in the same manner they treat me, minus the vulgarities as I refuse to stoop to their despicable and juvenile level.

[TRUTH]

Marines Semper Fidelis wrote:

Hi, this is Alpha's son. I would first off like to say that I am very proud to be my father's son and wouldn't have it any other way. I take great pride in what I do and this includes bow hunting... it is just who I am as a person. As most of you know I joined the Marines which I also take great pride in fighting for freedom and everyone who stands for it. I fight for anyone else just as much as I do for my own family. I am no fan of juding people or imposing my will on others, so I only ask you show the same respect. You might say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree... fine say what you wish, but both of my parents rasied me to be the man I am today. A big part of who I am is that I respect people from ALL walks of life, and can only hope that people do the same (which is sometimes not the case). As a Marine fighting for the freedoms of all Americans I would hope you wouldn't label me a bad person simply because I bow hunt. After reading this forum I would say many here have no argument saying my father has raised me wrong. Since this will most likely be my only post I would like to thank everyone for thier support and previous duty in the armed forces as well...have a good one everybody.

HAHAHAHAHAHA----you get more pathetic by the second fugly Brian!!!! You are completely controlled by AR's!!!! How funny that I mentioned that your "son" ought to post here and you immediately made an excuse that he has "better things to do" and then "poof!" suddenly out of the blue a post appears that YOU "authored" and are trying to pull off as a "son" wrote it!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!! Funny how "he" has the same spelling problems just like "dad" LOL!! And gee, why would "he" refer to you as "Alpha" when clearly everyone knows that you are Brian Hendershot!! Also, if "he" would catch one little phrase as the "apple doesn't fall far from the tree" then "he" would certainly know that your name is known here....besides that, why didn't he use one of your many other screen names, like your dildo one?? Yeah, that's something to be "proud" of.LOL! Speaking of "proud", who says something like: "I am very proud to be my father's son"???? You didn't think that one through either fugly, a person who genuinely speaks fondly of a parent would say something more like "I am proud of my father" the statement "he"/YOU made certainly does not imply respect or pride for the supposed 'sperm donor' but rather they are more proud of themself---they had no choice in the matter and it's obvious that you are a lousy "father" figure. You so stoopid fugly!!! Also funny for a kid who has "better things to do" as you clearly implied, it's rather odd how "he" appears to have read every detail here. What an idiotic and pathetic LIAR you are!! This truly is proof that AR's absolutely control you Brian Hendershot! We just have to say "boo" and you will drop everything (not that you have anything to do otherwise) and submit more of your pointless, juvenile, moronic blathering. What a mental case you are!!! Hey, looks like you've also put in another good solid day so far......but it's not even half over yet---you have at least 9, 10, or 11 hours left of hovering!!!! ta-ta fugly loser!! LOL!!!

[Medicinebow]

BOW HUNTERS FEAR ARs wrote:

<quoted text>
hehehehe
the question is - how do you like donating your money to fight me ?
cha-ching cha-ching cha-ching
aren't you one of those people who teaches kids how to bowhunt so they can kill animals? sure ya are - gotta get 'em young right Jimmy?

Donating my time and money to efforts I support is the least I can do. Some of us are willing to donate gladly to hunting causes. When I retire I plan to donate even more time to hunting causes. This works well too. This is evidenced by the fact that bow hunting is legal in every State and Canadian Province. It's the folks that are donating to causes and getting no return who should question the leadership of those organizations. You know the one's. The anti hunting org's who can't get hunting banned. But hey, some lawyers and org. presidents are making a few bucks for producing nothing tangible.

Hunting is mine to lose. All I need to do is sit back and do nothing. So mine and other peoples efforts are paying off greatly.

Yes, I do help educate youngsters that are interested in bow hunting or archery. Thanks for asking.

[RetiredArmyNCO]

BOW HUNTERS FEAR ARs wrote:

<quoted text>
hehehehe
the question is - how do you like donating your money to fight me ?
cha-ching cha-ching cha-ching
aren't you one of those people who teaches kids how to bowhunt so they can kill animals? sure ya are - gotta get 'em young right Jimmy?

Are you proud to be a part of fringe that creates a drain on society? Maybe the lawsuits and time you take up in the judicial system and in politics could better be served to actually tackling issues that affect us all? Our Country is in serious debt, criminals roam the streets, yet you would rather use the system to stop something you do not understand. How socially responsible you are.

[Medicinebow]

BOW HUNTERS FEAR ARs wrote:

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We can start with Burbank CA - I know, it's a town not a state, but you already knew that when you posted your comment.

Try this again. What State hs banned bow hunting?

In many places it isn't feasable to hunt anymore. It has more to do with habitat loss than anyting else. Some places I could hunt when I was younger just aren't available anymore. That's another reason I donate to organizations like DU. These folks help keep wetlands from being developed. And again, I don't duck hunt.

So how's that list coming along?

[Medicinebow]

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text> This is another thing that I do not understand and I have mentioned it to you before---"organic" farming does NOT involve the use of pesticides or any harmful chemicals whatsoever, therefore there will be no polluting of our soil, water or air. Also, did you happen to check out any of the links I provided for you about "vertical farming"??Not only does this concept eliminate the use of all pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers, but also will take up less land therefore will help to restore ecosystems, it will eliminate agricultural runoff, and will greatly reduce all resources. Here is the link to one site if you want to learn more: http://www.verticalfarm.com/ Again, it is only a matter of time before this technology takes place.

Wrong again. That farm equipment has alot of impact to the earth. How do these not pollute?

[Medicinebow]

BOW HUNTERS FEAR ARs wrote:

<quoted text>
"You aren't a rocket scientist. You are just figuring this out?"
You walk into it every time Jimmy. You are soooooooooooo easy.

You mean you weren't playing stupid? No surprise.

[TRUTH]

Demented Ferret wrote:

<quoted text>Just reading this stupid post shows me more and more what a nutcase you really are.
Hope you learned something in class today.

Yeah, and only a demented moron would deem simple facts as being "stupid". Whatsa matter, are you having trouble weaning yourself??LOL!! It is quite clear that YOU need an education dipchit. Did you even make it past third grade....are you still struggling to 'graduate' to forth grade??

[Alpha Centaur]

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text>This truly is proof that AR's absolutely control you !

You can't even coltrol your own bladder and rectum let alone another human being. You dance on my string, gerbil!

[TRUTH]

Alpha Centaur wrote:

<quoted text>You can't even coltrol your own bladder and rectum let alone another human being. You dance on my string, gerbil!

"coltrol"??? Whatsa matter fugly, are you frantically fumbling over the keyboard in your little rage of anger as you pound those keys as fast as possible??? LOL!!You're an idiot fugly and you are a dipchit to think that you could pull off feigning a post from a "son" who is no doubt ashamed of you. It is quite obvious that you are obsessed with this forum as your moronic posts pollute every single page with your moronic juvenile trash. By the way, perhaps I ought to call animal control in your area to come and rescue that poor gerbil before he "ends" up in the wrong place...ewww....I'm contacting them right now!!

[Alpha Centaur]

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text> a post appears that YOU "authored" and are trying to pull off as a "son" wrote it!!

My son wrote it alright but why would WE care what a totally insignificant cockroach like you thinks? You can't even stop drooling on yourself.

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text>"he" has the same spelling problems just like "dad" LOL!!!!

Kinda of like you posting "kwon", right goober-minded?

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text> Speaking of "proud", who says something like: "I am very proud to be my father's son"????

No doubt NO ONE has ever been proud of a destitute loser like you. You dance for quarters.

[LUMPY meets TRUTH]

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text>Yeah, and only a demented moron, simple like me and being "stupid". Whatsa matter with me? Why am I having this trouble weeing myself??LOL!! It is quite clear that I need am a dipchit in need of a diaper. LOL!!!

Shit yoursef again didn't you, Lumpy?

[Medicinebow]

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text>Yeah, and only a demented moron would deem simple facts as being "stupid". Whatsa matter, are you having trouble weaning yourself??LOL!! It is quite clear that YOU need an education dipchit. Did you even make it past third grade....are you still struggling to 'graduate' to forth grade??

"are you still struggling to 'graduate' to forth grade??"

LOL.

[Christmas Hunter]

Medicinebow wrote:

<quoted text>
Try this again. What State hs banned bow hunting?
In many places it isn't feasable to hunt anymore. It has more to do with habitat loss than anyting else. Some places I could hunt when I was younger just aren't available anymore. That's another reason I donate to organizations like DU. These folks help keep wetlands from being developed. And again, I don't duck hunt.
So how's that list coming along?

In my state, they are opening new areas. Cities and towns have come to the conclusion that bowhunting is the most effective and reliable control of deer. PETA did send a form letter that had NO effect. We will be hunting deer in new places this season, at the residents requests. More and more areas are opening this fall. Good job to the impotent ones.

[RetiredArmyNCO]

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text> Perhaps more people ought to really question exactly why humans are even consuming milk at all, or any foods produced from the maternal lactating secretion of another species. It seems that greedy businesses have won over the majority via tons of propaganda and false claims, and has conditioned people to believe that "milk is good for you" when the fact is, that cows milk is good for, and intended solely for newborn calves, as human milk is meant for human infants and so on. Humans can't seem to "wean" themselves from milk either, and continue to consume milk from other species and products produced from it well into their old age and till death. In the meantime, humans are literally forcing newborn calves away from their mothers within 24-48 hours of being born, and robbing the calves and their mothers' of ever sharing that incredibly beautiful bond of a mother nourishing her offspring.....and it is all done solely for the greed of those who profit without concern about what is natural for the animals, and due to the ignorance of consumers.

What is the evidence that cow’s milk is not healthy to consume by humans? Or any animals milk for that manner? We can argue over what anyone believes to be natural, but the definition of natural would be needed to be defined. Which of the many definitions do you wish to use?

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text If you eat cheese, you are still consuming the milk of another species, the milk that was solely meant for the newborns of the cow, goat or whatever animal it came from. Again, hardly "natural" for humans to consume the milk of another species, and cheese, sour cream, butter, cream cheese, yogurt, whipped cream.....whatever form that non human animals' milk was processed into is STILL completely unnatural and NOT intended for human consumption. That is a FACT.
Again, not only is consuming milk from another species totally unnatural, but it is absolutely cruel. I have witnessed firsthand the trauma of a calf being taken away from his/her mother and it is heart wrenching. Human greed and human ignorance are the biggest causes of needless animal cruelty, suffering and deaths.

Again, let’s define natural. And what evidence to you use to decide what is meant for consumption or not?

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text How can it NOT be "healthy" or at least "as healthy" by your standards of claiming that eating meat is healthy at all? Meat, as in the flesh of animals, is just THAT, the flesh, muscle, fat, tissues of animals. It can and will be produced without the animal. It is STILL flesh, tissue, muscle. Perhaps they won't be able to produce a liver, brain, testicle, or whatever other organ/body part you or other meat eaters choose to consume, but meat WILL be produced and available for human consumption without harming or killing any animals....it's just a matter of "when" it will happen.

You have not proved by this statement that the consumption of meat is not healthy. There are several sources that would suggest if eaten in moderation meat is perfectly healthy. But this fixation you have with lab produced meat is odd to me. You rally against eating meat, yet you think this is a viable idea. How do you suppose they would create this meat? When organs and tissue are created in the lab they use cells. It seems to create lab meat you would have to also use cells, but by your criteria that would be cruel to animals or at the very least violate their rights. After all, would animals give consent to use their cells?

[LUMPY meets TRUTH]

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text>I am obsessed with this forum as my moronic posts pollute every single page with juvenile trash. By the way, perhaps I ought to call animal control to get the gerbil outa my ass! LOL!!!

Poor creature!

[RetiredArmyNCO]

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text> This is another thing that I do not understand and I have mentioned it to you before---"organic" farming does NOT involve the use of pesticides or any harmful chemicals whatsoever, therefore there will be no polluting of our soil, water or air. Also, did you happen to check out any of the links I provided for you about "vertical farming"??Not only does this concept eliminate the use of all pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers, but also will take up less land therefore will help to restore ecosystems, it will eliminate agricultural runoff, and will greatly reduce all resources. Here is the link to one site if you want to learn more: http://www.verticalfarm.com/ Again, it is only a matter of time before this technology takes place.

In order to harvest the amounts of plant matter required for the world’s population to eat, these ideas are not viable. No till farming is an excellent idea, but only on the small scale. What you should understand is that in order for this plant eating utopia massive farms are required. And then these greedy corporations you condemn in raising meat will also be growing this plant matter. In order to provide the most aesthetically looking produce they will use whatever methods quickly and cheaply give them the desired result. Converting to veganism will not stop profit margins.

[RetiredArmyNCO]

TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text>I also enjoy a balanced and very healthy diet, and I eat so much more of a variety of tasty foods than I ever did when I consumed meat, dairy and eggs. My weight, BMI, and cholesterol level are "super" optimal, and I also have far more energy than ever and rarely ever even have a sniffle. It seems that like you, I also happen to be fortunate to have inherited some good genes. I also am physically active and work out regularly---another plus as you must know.
Who is talking about "having change just for the sake of change"?? I am, and have been talking about making changes that may very well improve our environment, making truly sustainable and organic food sources available locally, reducing (or hopefully eliminating all) diseases and contamination of our foods, and possibly producing an abundance of foods with minimal impact on our Earth and it's resources. I am encouraging change in order to improve the quality of our soil, food, water and air and I do it in hopes that future generations can enjoy a good quality of life. Unlike most of the self serving animal maiming killers on this thread, I do what I do to improve the lives of others, it's not just about "me".
By the way, I am not trying to get a "huffy" response from you, and I am not sure what makes you think that I even care to deliberately agitate such. If you haven't figured it out yet that I'd prefer to converse without the BS and slinging insults, then you aren't as intuitive as I thought. I also will not tolerate being addressed in the vulgar manner from the forum "trolls" and they will be treated in the same manner they treat me, minus the vulgarities as I refuse to stoop to their despicable and juvenile level.

I am glad you have good health, and that you enjoy a variety of foods. I probably eat much as the same as you do, but I also enjoy a variety of marine and land animals. Your choice, my choice and neither of us should be forced or otherwise made to change.

We will never eliminate all disease or contamination of foods. Disease has a way of evolving and becoming more tolerant and better adapted. In my manner of thinking, nature has a way of eliminating the excess, and nature will insure it has its way in the end.

Personally I have spent my entire adult life being of service to others. I have placed the needs of my duty, my soldiers and their families and my Country above my own desires. Even now in my second career, I serve others so they can have a better life. Yet I am a hunter, someone you describe as self serving. Many of the hunters on this thread have served their Country as well, and probably a few of the AR’s here. Hunting is not the main occupation of most, we do not know what careers they have or have had to decide they care only for themselves.

Hunting does not contribute to the pollution or ecological problems you raise. There are industries that provide goods and services that do. They are not restricted to raising meat, but also to many of the things we all use and consume. The plastics in our computers, the electricity are derived from oil. Some electricity is derived from other sources, but very little. I see more damage from providing consumable goods than I do from livestock practices. Maybe we should invest in more energy neutral projects like wind, solar and nuclear.
Is fugly considered a derivative of a vulgarity? In this very post you have used the phrase “self serving animal maiming killers”. Is this meant to stimulate intellectual debate or conversation?

[Medicinebow]

BOW HUNTERS FEAR ARs wrote:

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We can start with Burbank CA - I know, it's a town not a state, but you already knew that when you posted your comment.

That's just horrible. Burbank was #1 on my list of places to hunt. Please don't tell me D.C. has gone down as well.

The good news is that many places are opening to bow hunting.

What's the 1st State on the list?