Did Phelps really beat Cavic by 0.01 seconds?

Created by Groucho on Aug 20, 2008

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“We are the dreamers of dreams”

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#1 Aug 20, 2008
I dunno - check out this site: 100thofasecond.com
Jeff

Boston, MA

#2 Aug 21, 2008
ADalton wrote:
I dunno - check out this site: 100thofasecond.com
They showed the SI high speed photos of the finish which showed Phelps' fingers touching while the other swimmer's fingers had yet to touch the pad. 0.01 second is along time as electronics go.

“TheseDays”

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#3 Aug 21, 2008
^^^^I agree, even tho close race.
Speed

Carmel, IN

#4 Aug 21, 2008
Yes....check out Sports Illustrated.

Phelps wins!!!! Greatest swimmer to ever live!!!

If you want to beat the conspiracy drum, I suggest you go after the "women's" gymnastic team from China.

“Glory and Greed”

Since: Jul 08

Shenzhen, China

#5 Aug 21, 2008
Phelps was lucky
hello

France

#6 Aug 21, 2008
8 gold medals 8
Speed

Carmel, IN

#7 Aug 25, 2008
Phelps rules!!!!
Richard

Beachwood, OH

#8 Aug 26, 2008
It's on tape.
Speed

Carmel, IN

#9 Aug 26, 2008
Photos show.....Phelps by a fingernail.

8 Golds and DOMINATION!!!!!!!!

Since: Jan 08

Cleveland, OH

#10 Aug 26, 2008
raystar wrote:
Phelps was lucky
how do you figure? luck had nothing to do with it..he won..fair and square!!
Speed

Carmel, IN

#12 Aug 29, 2008
I just saw the replay again today. Cavic errored in not taking one more stroke instead of just reaching and kicking with his legs. Phelps took the extra arm stroke and got the lunge to the wall.

It was beautiful. It was a win. And he is the best ever.

Enjoy the win USA. We may never see anyone like him again.
TB Chief

Decatur, IL

#13 Aug 29, 2008
raystar wrote:
Phelps was lucky
He wasn't lucky, he was smarter. He did what he needed to do by taking that half stroke and excelling to the wall while Dokic had his head up and was coasting to the wall. If he had even left his head down it might have been enough to beat Phelps but he didn't and he lost. A conspiracy theory is ludicrous. What? they doctored the clocks just for him at that moment and then even doctored the slo-mo cameras? Face it he is the best swimmer in the world and that is the way it is like it or not!
TB Chief

Decatur, IL

#14 Aug 29, 2008
Speed wrote:
I just saw the replay again today. Cavic errored in not taking one more stroke instead of just reaching and kicking with his legs. Phelps took the extra arm stroke and got the lunge to the wall.
It was beautiful. It was a win. And he is the best ever.
Enjoy the win USA. We may never see anyone like him again.
Sorry Speed, I didn't mean to repeat what you said but your post was not there when I started mine. I must have read your mind since we both agree on the reason Phelps won. Cavic did not finish right and you are very correct the way I saw it. Excuse me for getting his name wrong in my post, I had a blonde moment all of the sudden.
jacob

United States

#15 Sep 6, 2008
i think cavic is better
Speed

Carmel, IN

#16 Sep 8, 2008
jacob wrote:
i think cavic is better
He wasn't on that particular day. The greatest swimmer EVER was.

Hope Cavic enjoyed listening to our national anthem!!!
less speculation

Cambridge, MA

#17 Sep 12, 2008
TB Chief wrote:
<quoted text>He wasn't lucky, he was smarter. He did what he needed to do by taking that half stroke and excelling to the wall while Dokic had his head up and was coasting to the wall. If he had even left his head down it might have been enough to beat Phelps but he didn't and he lost. A conspiracy theory is ludicrous. What? they doctored the clocks just for him at that moment and then even doctored the slo-mo cameras? Face it he is the best swimmer in the world and that is the way it is like it or not!
It's Cavic not Dokic... people should talk about things they know... not things they guess or could recognize ... As for the win... possibly... I'd like to see the 100fps tapes, as well as the signal from the sensor because not touching simultaneously is a disqualification error as far as I know, and there is a reasonable doubt about that in Phelps' case.
Anyways, enjoy the victories. It was deserved. Great swimmer. As for "domination" you'll have to talk to Bolt ;) He really dominated his races.
Speed

Carmel, IN

#18 Sep 14, 2008
less speculation wrote:
<quoted text>
It's Cavic not Dokic... people should talk about things they know... not things they guess or could recognize ... As for the win... possibly... I'd like to see the 100fps tapes, as well as the signal from the sensor because not touching simultaneously is a disqualification error as far as I know, and there is a reasonable doubt about that in Phelps' case.
Anyways, enjoy the victories. It was deserved. Great swimmer. As for "domination" you'll have to talk to Bolt ;) He really dominated his races.
Bolt was excellent, but what he did was in no comparison to Phelps. Phelps swam a variety of strokes and a variety of distances. He threw up several records in doing so. This would be like Bolt running the hurdles as well as the sprints or maybe throwing in the 400.

Bolt was great, but Phelps was INCREDIBLE!!!!
sure

Cambridge, MA

#19 Sep 18, 2008
Speed wrote:
<quoted text>
Bolt was excellent, but what he did was in no comparison to Phelps. Phelps swam a variety of strokes and a variety of distances. He threw up several records in doing so. This would be like Bolt running the hurdles as well as the sprints or maybe throwing in the 400.
Bolt was great, but Phelps was INCREDIBLE!!!!
I didn't comment on who was great and who was not (or who was incredible). I just said that 'domination' was a word to describe what Bolt did (when you compare his results with the results of the field). While Phelps is very versatile (much more than Bolt) in his race spectra, he did not 'dominate'. As an example we can use this race with Cavic: my best (and I think fairest) guess is that it was really close and not really evident what happened. In any case it was a misjudgment of the distance by both, just Phelps was a bit luckier in his mistake ... But even if it is so, I still cannot say that it is undeserved win, as his quality is not to be challenged. On the other hand, if Cavic won I don't think it'd be undeserved either, on the contrary!

The whole thing was made ugly by the behavior of the officials and non-transparency of the results and the official decision process. Secretive approach does not create respect and does not establish someone's authority...
bluewv

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Oct 17, 2008
hello wrote:
8 gold medals 8
Born in the USA, my friends!!!!!!!!

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Since: Nov 08

Los Angeles

#21 Nov 10, 2008
Conspiracy theories are hilarious.

I should know.

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