Protesters warn buyers on Taupo subdi...

Protesters warn buyers on Taupo subdivision

There are 23 comments on the Stuff.co.nz story from Jan 31, 2012, titled Protesters warn buyers on Taupo subdivision. In it, Stuff.co.nz reports that:

LAKE VIEWS: An aerial view of the former Parawera subdivision, now renamed The Peninsula, near Acacia Bay, Lake Taupo, which is in a receivership sale.

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Hooner

Munich, Germany

#1 Jan 31, 2012
Here we go again.

I used to live at Acacia Bay, beautiful quiet area, and run up to that place, always had a big locked gate and it was said drug dealers were inside.

Did anyone see that protester at Wellington poking his tongue out?

No surprsies what he was protesting, "This is Maori land!!"

Yawn.

“Tino Rangatiratanga”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#2 Jan 31, 2012
Yawn... Here we go again. Another Maori bashing thread by a misinformed and historically ignorant Pakeha who blames Maori for reacting to a problem created by the Crown.

Of course, none of this had to happen if the Pakeha would have simply honoured the Treaty in the first place.

But let's not let that fact get in the way of a good racist rant.

Have fun, Hooner!

“Educating Utus”

Since: Aug 10

Papakura, New Zealand

#3 Jan 31, 2012
This is an example of how stupid and disjointed part Maoris are. This area of land is covered by perpetual lease and you can bet the tribe is doing very nicely from the deal. Then a splinter group of drug and alcohol fueled utus hear a story about some friggen savage, probably a slave, murdered and eaten by the tribe and his bones discarded on this site.

“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#5 Jan 31, 2012
Oh, and the men I'm talking about are the Maori men.......... Or in this case, the trustees,,,, they have to answer to the people whose land they leased under law..... When they shoulda asked the people/owners first ....... They didn't do that..... The owners didn't want anything to do with leasing of lands at all.
In this case the owners have been very clear on their position, from as early as 2002 they have said, no leasing or sale of lands is permitted...... the trust board had no right to go against the wishes of the owners.. It was only the land court act that gave these kupapa the right to go over their heads and agree to the deal without the mandate fr the owners ..... It's the stupid govt imposed land court that's caused this issue.. That and ignorant trust board mbers who did the wrong thing.....

“LEX TALIONIS”

Since: Jul 09

Twin Waters, Australia

#6 Jan 31, 2012
That Maori Guy wrote:
Yawn... Here we go again. Another Maori bashing thread by a misinformed and historically ignorant Pakeha who blames Maori for reacting to a problem created by the Crown.
Of course, none of this had to happen if the Pakeha would have simply honoured the Treaty in the first place.
But let's not let that fact get in the way of a good racist rant.
Have fun, Hooner!
Your Mario privilege and deeply ingrained anti-White hatred allows you to automatically assume that some character named 'Hooner' is a White person and therefor incapable of passing comment without mirroring your own racist views.

You Mario privilege also enables you to write off the commented on problem as caused by Whites. As usual you stick to the routine of defending every Mario excess, blaming White people for everything, and accusing White people of being racist. Mario privilege at work for all to see.
Hooner

Roth, Germany

#7 Feb 1, 2012
the fact is, the truth, is that a high percentage of people with Maori blood, not all, but most want to see nz entirely in the hands or ownership of people with Maori blood.

and that is why nz is pretty much f'ed as a country because it will only get worse.

just watch tomorrow.
Hooner

Roth, Germany

#8 Feb 1, 2012
and they really truly BELIEVE it should all be returned.

TMG would admit that if he told the truth here.
Hooner

Roth, Germany

#9 Feb 1, 2012
i meant just watch on Feb 6.

“Tino Rangatiratanga”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#11 Feb 1, 2012
PC_Is_Marxism wrote:
<quoted text>
Your Mario privilege and deeply ingrained anti-White hatred allows you to automatically assume that some character named 'Hooner' is a White person and therefor incapable of passing comment without mirroring your own racist views.
You Mario privilege also enables you to write off the commented on problem as caused by Whites. As usual you stick to the routine of defending every Mario excess, blaming White people for everything, and accusing White people of being racist. Mario privilege at work for all to see.
I assumed Hooner to be Pakeha, which simply means non-Maori. I never said he was White. I also didn’t say that the problem in this instance (or in general for that matter) is the fault of White people, but I do maintain it is the (ultimate) fault of the Crown.

“Tino Rangatiratanga”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#12 Feb 1, 2012
Hooner wrote:
the fact is, the truth, is that a high percentage of people with Maori blood, not all, but most want to see nz entirely in the hands or ownership of people with Maori blood.
and that is why nz is pretty much f'ed as a country because it will only get worse.
just watch tomorrow.
Unless you physically went out and actually polled the entire Maori population and asked them that very question, then there is no possible way for you to actually know this. You’re entitled to an opinion, but stop trying to pass off your opinion here as “fact” or “truth”.

Let’s deconstruct what you are saying: First you propose (the opinion) that all Maori want to see NZ in Maori ownership. Next, you conclude that NZ is “pretty much f’ed” in the present on the basis of the first which doesn’t actually exist in reality to begin with. Maori do not own the entirety of NZ. So the whole argument is complete and utter nonsense.

In the absence of anything that actually makes sense, I can only conclude you are working from a basis of preconceived and internalized prejudice.

“Tino Rangatiratanga”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#13 Feb 1, 2012
keenAZ_for_anal wrote:
I agree, could you imagine New Zealand run by Maori-Europeans?
It would be like Chinese parliament, only instead of throwing chairs at each other when they have a parliamentary disagreement over who gets the last piece of KFC, they would start poking their tongues out at each other, making sexually motivated huffing noises that make the common man laugh.
Heh, I love reading these threads, you can tell who the idiots are (that_maori_guy, Adam Rangiaho, who's last name is probably Harris, and keenAZ, who's real name is most likely something English as well, like Henry, or Wilbert) that keep on about the same old crap.
Basically in every thread, they say the same old thing. "We deserve more, we deserve it all, we do, we do, we do"
I thought they were supposed to be a "proud people".
I don't see anything proud about racial segregation, denial of obvious racial outlooks on society, denial that they are not Maori-Europeans and share the same colour blood as the rest of the world. What exactly are these select few trying to achieve, some internet solace when we all grow tired and just give up trying to educate their little minds?
I have a theory, if we persuade just one of those 3 I have mentioned, that they are indeed a Maori-European and no more indigenous than my 7th Generation European New Zealand roots, then the others will follow suit. Look back at history, they really were good sheep weren't they. Get one tribe on board and the rest will follow.
There's a Facebook group called "The Maori party is a racist party" and there is over 2,000 members, mostly Maori-Europeans and they all have similar views to myself, that it's these extremists that are kidding themselves and give the term "Maori" a stereotype of a dole bludging, crime committing statistic that will never fit into society.
What I would like to ask these 3 is do you think it's right that I start a political party and call it "New Zealanders Party" and advocated for the rights of white New Zealanders, and had members of my party calling Maori-European dole bludging hori's, like a certain Maori-European MP did?
Why would you need to bother with a White advocacy party when every administration has been exactly that already?

You already have White advocacy parties and lobbyists. They’re called National, Labour, ACT, NZ First and NZCPR etc.

Think about it. Every administration regardless of their political persuasion has failed to honor the Treaty, and is only too willing to assume the expedient role of colonial oppressor to deny Maori rights when it suits their needs. Labour showed how easy that was with the Foreshore and Seabed Act.

Your rights are already guaranteed. Most of NZ’s MP’s are Pakeha, we learn Pakeha history, culture and language in school, and all of NZ’s basic institutions operate on the assumption that the Pakeha way is the only way. The default culture and identity of NZ is Pakeha.

In fact, the measure of how readily immigrants assimilate in to NZ society is their adaptability to White NZ.

Nobody is advocating ‘racial segregation’, just that we honor the Treaty. But for your information, NZ does have an informal segregated history which was applied against Maori at different times and includes segregated schools, movie theaters, churches and the like. Even into the 1950s.

It’s funny that you can casually post references to supposed Chinese invasion plans, KFC and advertise your anal persuasions and yet refer to others as ‘idiots’.

“LEX TALIONIS”

Since: Jul 09

Brisbane, Australia

#14 Feb 1, 2012
That Maori Guy wrote:
<quoted text>

Your rights are already guaranteed. Most of NZ’s MP’s are Pakeha, we learn Pakeha history, culture and language in school, and all of NZ’s basic institutions operate on the assumption that the Pakeha way is the only way. The default culture and identity of NZ is Pakeha.
What rights do I have that Adam does not? Name a single real right that Adam is denied, whilst I receive. You can't.

Most of New Zealand's MPs are White? Another f-up on your part. Maori have a disproportionate number of MPs in relation to their racial population. By your way of thinking we should axe some of them. What a muppet you are.

“LEX TALIONIS”

Since: Jul 09

Brisbane, Australia

#15 Feb 1, 2012
That Maori Guy wrote:
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But for your information, NZ does have an informal segregated history
And a present. Mario All Blacks, anybody?

“Tino Rangatiratanga”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#16 Feb 1, 2012
PC_Is_Marxism wrote:
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What rights do I have that Adam does not? Name a single real right that Adam is denied, whilst I receive. You can't.
Most of New Zealand's MPs are White? Another f-up on your part. Maori have a disproportionate number of MPs in relation to their racial population. By your way of thinking we should axe some of them. What a muppet you are.
How about the right to honor the Treaty for a start? How about the right to have guaranteed protection of property and not to be arbitrarily denied the same because we are Maori? How about the right to historical justice?

How about the right to include Te Reo Maori not as an elective but as an integral part of NZ’s curriculum?

“Tino Rangatiratanga”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#17 Feb 1, 2012
Even the right-wing blogger David Farrar says so, PC.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm...

“LEX TALIONIS”

Since: Jul 09

Brisbane, Australia

#18 Feb 1, 2012
That Maori Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
How about the right to honor the Treaty for a start? How about the right to have guaranteed protection of property and not to be arbitrarily denied the same because we are Maori? How about the right to historical justice?
How about the right to include Te Reo Maori not as an elective but as an integral part of NZ’s curriculum?
Ahh, there we have it. Be a little bit clearer next time, Ma Gay. Us dumb 'pakehahas' naturally assume that you are talking of New Zealanders. What you are really talking about is race. You are saying that the Mario race is missing out on this or that because the mean old 'pakehahas' are oppressing them.

I have no problem with justice. If we were to square the ledger, you Marios would be headed for Samoa with whipped behinds. Whatever wrongs you perceive Whites to have committed pale in significance when weighed against the things that Marios have done.

“LEX TALIONIS”

Since: Jul 09

Brisbane, Australia

#19 Feb 1, 2012
Oh, Ma Gay!

"Of the 121 elected, 83 are men and 38 are women. Nearly three quarters, 74 per cent, are European, 17 per cent are Maori, 5 per cent Pacific and 4 per cent Asian."

That means Mario are overrepresented. If you were intellectually honest you would be calling for two Mario MPs to be dropped in the interests of diversity.

No, of course not. Diversity is only ever relevant when it is at the expense of White folk.

“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#20 Feb 1, 2012
Hooner wrote:
the fact is, the truth, is that a high percentage of people with Maori blood, not all, but most want to see nz entirely in the hands or ownership of people with Maori blood.
and that is why nz is pretty much f'ed as a country because it will only get worse.
just watch tomorrow.
there's only about 6% of land that Maori own. That's it...... perhaps there is a further 1% under ?question....

There's no way Maori will get everything... we wanted to share that's why we signed the treaty....

It said, we be the boss of us on our lands,.,.,., and the palani be the boss of them on their lands and that we promise never to sell our lands to the French germans Spanish or yanks but to only ever sell our lands to the tinobossman queen of the Brits ..........

“Tino Rangatiratanga”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#21 Feb 1, 2012
PC_Is_Marxism wrote:
Oh, Ma Gay!
"Of the 121 elected, 83 are men and 38 are women. Nearly three quarters, 74 per cent, are European, 17 per cent are Maori, 5 per cent Pacific and 4 per cent Asian."
That means Mario are overrepresented. If you were intellectually honest you would be calling for two Mario MPs to be dropped in the interests of diversity.
No, of course not. Diversity is only ever relevant when it is at the expense of White folk.
Please! Representation relative to population size is only a fairly recent phenomenon, and is subject to the overriding demands of a) the party, and b) the Pakeha majority.

During the F&S, Labour didn’t even consult their own Maori MP’s.
kiwi

Christchurch, New Zealand

#22 Feb 1, 2012
I've nothing against Maori keeping their culture and language alive but to force it on my child in school is hypocritical. You Maori bleat about forced assimilation yet you want to force your language on our kids. If my son wishes to learn about Maori culture and te Reo it should be his choice frankly I'd rather he excelled at real world education that will help him in his real life.

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