jets talk back

[Unfortunately Omniscient]

Johnny wrote:

<quoted text>sounds like you're a quitter, ya wussboy.

Not a quitter, if your a Bills fan you are no quitter. But the Bills have their shortcomings this year. Getting back to the Jets, they did spend the money and Sanchez, except for the Bills, has had an OK rookie year. I would say to Jet fans "be optimistic next year will be better", but the truth is that you can say that about the Jets every year.

Too bad they did'nt take the opportunity to return to their fan base in Queens and Long Island. I'm jus sayin.

[Drew Brown Bundini]

Unfortunately Omniscient wrote:

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Not a quitter, if your a Bills fan you are no quitter. But the Bills have their shortcomings this year. Getting back to the Jets, they did spend the money and Sanchez, except for the Bills, has had an OK rookie year. I would say to Jet fans "be optimistic next year will be better", but the truth is that you can say that about the Jets every year.
Too bad they did'nt take the opportunity to return to their fan base in Queens and Long Island. I'm jus sayin.

if their fan base was really in queens they would supported their request for a new stadium instead of telling them that they can just continue to share one with the Muts... Like the Dodger/Giants years before NYC thought the team had no other options ... they were wrong...again... so might as well get map to New Jersey

[Tap San in LIC]

Drew Brown Bundini wrote:

<quoted text>if their fan base was really in queens they would supported their request for a new stadium instead of telling them that they can just continue to share one with the Muts... Like the Dodger/Giants years before NYC thought the team had no other options ... they were wrong...again... so might as well get map to New Jersey

Do you really think the fan base has any say in whether a team gets a new stadium or not ? You're a mess.

[Drew Brown Bundini]

Tap San in LIC wrote:

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Do you really think the fan base has any say in whether a team gets a new stadium or not ? You're a mess.

you should really try a reading comprension or an A.D.D. medication ... the guy said the Jets dedicated fans were in Queens and L.I.
if you knew the history ... when the Dodgers threatened to leave NY unless Ebbets Field was replaced, NYC offered the marsh land that Shea stadium was built on in Willets Point. The Dodger fans base were in Brooklyn and those that took the bus and Subways to the game from Bronx, Manahattan and Queens. After the Jets won the SB they wanted their own stadium. At the time the Mets were playing into October every year (69-73). By the end of October the Outfield was dirt fore baseball and for football the exposed infield created a dust bowl...
the local residents did not support the idea of losing Willets Point park to another stadium.... two years later the Jets followed the giants to New Jersey
... you really believe your mindless quips are insightful, huh? good luck with that!

[Old School Mets Fan]

Drew Brown Bundini wrote:

<quoted text>you should really try a reading comprension or an A.D.D. medication ... the guy said the Jets dedicated fans were in Queens and L.I.
if you knew the history ... when the Dodgers threatened to leave NY unless Ebbets Field was replaced, NYC offered the marsh land that Shea stadium was built on in Willets Point. The Dodger fans base were in Brooklyn and those that took the bus and Subways to the game from Bronx, Manahattan and Queens. After the Jets won the SB they wanted their own stadium. At the time the Mets were playing into October every year (69-73). By the end of October the Outfield was dirt fore baseball and for football the exposed infield created a dust bowl...
the local residents did not support the idea of losing Willets Point park to another stadium.... two years later the Jets followed the giants to New Jersey
... you really believe your mindless quips are insightful, huh? good luck with that!

The Jets didn't move to the Meadowlands until 1984. They'd still be in Shea if Hess and the Mets could have struck a deal. Hess' excuse at the time was that the Shea bathrooms were filthy.

[Drew Brown Bundini]

Old School Mets Fan wrote:

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The Jets didn't move to the Meadowlands until 1984. They'd still be in Shea if Hess and the Mets could have struck a deal. Hess' excuse at the time was that the Shea bathrooms were filthy.

I don't Shea was a real option. The Mets weren't crazy about playing on a torn up outfield grass in September thru October either and not much grass or sod is growing in NY in the Fall. If you ever sat in Shea in November, that wind whipping thru the open end was worst than old Rich stadium in Buffalo

[HOF4KLECKO]

Drew Brown Bundini wrote:

<quoted text>I don't Shea was a real option. The Mets weren't crazy about playing on a torn up outfield grass in September thru October either and not much grass or sod is growing in NY in the Fall. If you ever sat in Shea in November, that wind whipping thru the open end was worst than old Rich stadium in Buffalo

That's right! But that was football and a home field advantage for the Jets! Football SHOULD be played in awful weather conditions and not these wimpy domes where the players finish a game with no dirt on their uniforms. I loved football at Shea especially before they sodded the baseball infield. The cold, wind, rain, mud, that was football at it's best! I miss football when it was played at Shea, Yankee, Memorial in Balt., Cleveland, where you had the natural elements creating more fun to watch the game.

[Drew Brown Bundini]

HOF4KLECKO wrote:

<quoted text>That's right! But that was football and a home field advantage for the Jets! Football SHOULD be played in awful weather conditions and not these wimpy domes where the players finish a game with no dirt on their uniforms. I loved football at Shea especially before they sodded the baseball infield. The cold, wind, rain, mud, that was football at it's best! I miss football when it was played at Shea, Yankee, Memorial in Balt., Cleveland, where you had the natural elements creating more fun to watch the game.

It was only a Home field advantage while they had strong armed Namath at QB. They haven't had anybody close (and in their prime) since. I repeat the Mets were the primary tenants and complained about the OF being torn up
for games in Spetember thru October (back when the Mets always played in October)

[Tap San in LIC]

Drew Brown Bundini wrote:

<quoted text>you should really try a reading comprension or an A.D.D. medication ... the guy said the Jets dedicated fans were in Queens and L.I.
if you knew the history ... when the Dodgers threatened to leave NY unless Ebbets Field was replaced, NYC offered the marsh land that Shea stadium was built on in Willets Point. The Dodger fans base were in Brooklyn and those that took the bus and Subways to the game from Bronx, Manahattan and Queens. After the Jets won the SB they wanted their own stadium. At the time the Mets were playing into October every year (69-73). By the end of October the Outfield was dirt fore baseball and for football the exposed infield created a dust bowl...
the local residents did not support the idea of losing Willets Point park to another stadium.... two years later the Jets followed the giants to New Jersey
... you really believe your mindless quips are insightful, huh? good luck with that!

And you implied the fan base had some sort of say in the matter, who is mindless now ? Thanks again Coach, ya grump ya.

[Guinness Drinker]

Drew Brown Bundini wrote:

<quoted text>you should really try a reading comprension or an A.D.D. medication ... the guy said the Jets dedicated fans were in Queens and L.I.
if you knew the history ... when the Dodgers threatened to leave NY unless Ebbets Field was replaced, NYC offered the marsh land that Shea stadium was built on in Willets Point. The Dodger fans base were in Brooklyn and those that took the bus and Subways to the game from Bronx, Manahattan and Queens. After the Jets won the SB they wanted their own stadium. At the time the Mets were playing into October every year (69-73). By the end of October the Outfield was dirt fore baseball and for football the exposed infield created a dust bowl...
the local residents did not support the idea of losing Willets Point park to another stadium.... two years later the Jets followed the giants to New Jersey
... you really believe your mindless quips are insightful, huh? good luck with that!

it's always nice when Jets fans use the bye week to relax, have a few and re-focus thought's for the end of the year playoff run

[Drew Brown Bundini]

Tap San in LIC wrote:

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And you implied the fan base had some sort of say in the matter, who is mindless now ? Thanks again Coach, ya grump ya.

IN the eighties the local residents held protests on the grounds of Willets Point (the intended site for the stadium). They complained that they would lose their picnic areas and bike paths... like I said Reading comprension course are probably available at your college or University. good luck!

fyi. Try doing some reading on Robert Moses. He's the one that told the Dodgers to take or leave it in the 50's. The Dodgers wanted to build at Flatbush and Atlantic,(where the Nets are building now). He wanted them in Flushing as he pushed Highways to Queens and L.I. Moses won and got the worlds' fair ini '61, Shea in '64 and the #7 train to stop there

He also had delusions of grandeur... you should be able to relate ..

[roger43]

Drew Brown Bundini wrote:

<quoted text>It was only a Home field advantage while they had strong armed Namath at QB. They haven't had anybody close (and in their prime) since. I repeat the Mets were the primary tenants and complained about the OF being torn up
for games in Spetember thru October (back when the Mets always played in October)

back when the mets ALWAYS played in october? 1969-check. 1973-check.......???that's a far cry from ALWAYS

[Tap San in LIC]

roger43 wrote:

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back when the mets ALWAYS played in october? 1969-check. 1973-check.......???that's a far cry from ALWAYS

And this coming from a former Mets fan, who converted to a Yankee fan, he's a mess, plain and simple.

[Tap San in LIC]

Drew Brown Bundini wrote:

<quoted text>IN the eighties the local residents held protests on the grounds of Willets Point (the intended site for the stadium). They complained that they would lose their picnic areas and bike paths... like I said Reading comprension course are probably available at your college or University. good luck!
fyi. Try doing some reading on Robert Moses. He's the one that told the Dodgers to take or leave it in the 50's. The Dodgers wanted to build at Flatbush and Atlantic,(where the Nets are building now). He wanted them in Flushing as he pushed Highways to Queens and L.I. Moses won and got the worlds' fair ini '61, Shea in '64 and the #7 train to stop there
He also had delusions of grandeur... you should be able to relate ..

I relate just fine, thank you very much. So in your argument about fan protests you bring up the name Robert Moses ??? You're a mess.

[Drew Brown Bundini]

Tap San in LIC wrote:

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I relate just fine, thank you very much. So in your argument about fan protests you bring up the name Robert Moses ??? You're a mess.

attention to detail or grasping how events are related (when it's not spellled out for you) is just not one of your strong points.. no shame in that goood luck!!!

[Drew Brown Bundini]

roger43 wrote:

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back when the mets ALWAYS played in october? 1969-check. 1973-check.......???that's a far cry from ALWAYS

true. I've been talking to too many Mut fans. THey have proclaimed themselves the pre-season team to beat the last 3 years even with the Phillies defending WS champs last year. Now the defending WS champs are in the Bronx... can't wait for the new improved Mut spin

[Drew Brown Bundini]

if it was the same players for the past twenty years I would agree... It's a trap and why it's hard to win in NY. We like to talk like the lossses by the Richard Todd JEts of the 80's is linked to the losses of the Ken O'Brien Jets of the 90's and somehow apply to the 00's with 5-6 different Opening game starters in nine years.

If we had shown some patience instead of trashing Brett (by fans and media) when 8-3 became 9-7 things could be different. THe team has given up 6 TD's without the Defense on the field and lost 3 games by a total of 11 points. That's the difference a veteran QB could have made. INstead we all said Brett was old and done... Sometimes so-called 'long suffering' Jet fans get what they deserve...

[Tap San in LIC]

Drew Brown Bundini wrote:

<quoted text>attention to detail or grasping how events are related (when it's not spellled out for you) is just not one of your strong points.. no shame in that goood luck!!!

3 days later, who cares. Way to follow along Coach, you're a mess.

[Tap San in LIC]

Drew Brown Bundini wrote:

if it was the same players for the past twenty years I would agree... It's a trap and why it's hard to win in NY. We like to talk like the lossses by the Richard Todd JEts of the 80's is linked to the losses of the Ken O'Brien Jets of the 90's and somehow apply to the 00's with 5-6 different Opening game starters in nine years.
If we had shown some patience instead of trashing Brett (by fans and media) when 8-3 became 9-7 things could be different. THe team has given up 6 TD's without the Defense on the field and lost 3 games by a total of 11 points. That's the difference a veteran QB could have made. INstead we all said Brett was old and done... Sometimes so-called 'long suffering' Jet fans get what they deserve...

we all ?

[TLITLKITIS]

This team suxs. Please Hey Rex. SAME OLD JETS!!!!