MAGICK In The Bible & Early Christianity:

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lethalseed

Monticello, AR

#1 Jul 4, 2013
Satanic Judaism STOLE Christianity a long time ago !!

Note: I am a christian, just not the one of the false Judaic BIBLE

Conspiracy of Silence?

Historian David E Aune says that many authors "most of whom consider themselves biblical theologians, write as if they were involved in a conspiracy to ignore or minimize the role of magic in the New Testament and early Christian literature.....

It may not seem appropriate to regard Jesus as a magician, yet Jesus DID make use of magical tecnniques which must be regarded as magical."
(David A Aune, "Magic in Early Christianity" 1508, 1539, 1538; also E P Sanders, "Jesus and Judaism 169-173; see also _Jesus the Magician_)

"Christian magic is a tradition that employs deified Christian figures (Mary, the apostles, saints, and important figures) to allowa personal relationship with the Divine in the Roman Catholic Church and older Christian traditions. Additionally, it incorporates a number of other religions’ themes, gods, and traditions into its own system. It may also utilize spells, incantations, amulets, rituals, and other occult practices to call upon divine forces for intervention in the affairs of the world. Christian magic has arguably been around as long as Christianity itself, and continues to be a part of some belief systems in the modern world." http://home.wlu.edu/~lubint/Touchsto...icChr-...

Christian “Gifts Of The Spirit”:
Even what are scripturally referred to as the "Gifts of the Spirit":
(Mark 16:17-18, and 1 Corinthians 12-14)-- in other circles (pun intended) these are referred to as "Psychic Gifts".

Thus,(conservative) Christian objections to the practice of magick seems to be:

"If WE do it, it's holy; If YOU do it, it's evil !"

It should be noted that by contrast, God/dess judges not according to appearances, but the INTENT of the heart:
As the Bible itself (1 Samuel 16:7) says:
"For man looketh on the outer appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart."

Certainly, that includes the heart of a Pagan, who offers up a spell to heal a sick person, as well as that of a Christian who judges unfairly and unrighteously, and bears false witness against that Wiccan, calling his or her religion,“Devil worship”!

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- Jacob's Magick Rods:
In Genesis 30:37-39, the Bible indicates that the patriarch Jacob (grandson of Abraham, aka "Israel", father of the twelve sons and therefore Twelve Tribes of Israel) was interested in names of power and in magic rods.

In fact, Jacob used magick rods to cause [his father-in-law] Laban's flocks to produce spotted offspring after merely looking at the rods. The scriptures do not indicate whether Jacob received divine instruction or authorization to use this method of Folk Magic, which was widespread throughout the ancient Middle East as one way to produce desired offspring.
(John McClintock and James Strong, ed.,_Cyclopaedia of Biblical Theology and Ecclesiastical Literature_ 12 vols, 2:836)

cont,
Sayer

Cheyenne, WY

#4 Jul 5, 2013
I don't know what kind of "Christian" you think you are, but it's obviouse that you are not born again as Jesus requires:

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

It's clear that you really don't know Jesus and couldn't care less about what HE was about; you are off on some useless and strange tangent that only Satan can use. Satan needs people like you to blur the lines as you have, totally ignoring the other side of the coin.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

That means YOU, too. How will this work of yours stand then? Good luck on that. Let me know how it turns out. In the meantime, you should have a very good life, because your eternity seems bleak.*wink*

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