Brookhaven to vote on trapping feral cats -- Environmental Issu...

Full story: Newsday 117
In a move Brookhaven officials hope will assuage fears that feral cats pose a threat to endangered piping plover at Cedar Beach, the town is expected to approve tonight a $10,000 contract with a professional ... Full Story
First Prev
of 6
Next Last
Ice

Middle Island, NY

#107 Jun 7, 2011
I competely disagree with Paul. Obviously, he has no understanding of how an effective TNR program operates. I also completely ignore the ridiculous postings from the fellow calling himself Joe Cop. Obviously, he is either deeply disturbed or some bored moron who finds it amusing to post outrageouds suggestions to inflame the random reader. If he is indeed a member of law enforcement, and I doubt it, steps should be taken to identify and remove him from the force, for, if he is not mentalle aberrant, he is at least completely irresponsible in the avocation of casual gun use by the general public!

I am fortunate to live in the Town of Southampton, where our feral cat program works extremely well. In combination with our no-kill shelter, vets who are willing to perform spays and neuters pro bono or on a nominal scale, and volunteers who will foster young kittens until adoption or feed the colonies, our cat problem has steadily improved, particularly over the last ten years.

For those unfamiliar: A TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) program is essentially described in the title. Those cats who are too ill, too injured or too old are humanely euthanised. Those who are too wild to become suitable pets are "fixed" and returned to their colony. Young kittens and cats, or those dumped off who were former loving pets are fostered or put into the shelter for adoption. Over time, with diligence in trapping new arrivals and attrition as the older members of the colony can no longer reproduce, the colonies die out and disappear. It is both humane, and cost effective.

Shooting the cats is CERTAINLY NOT the answer! It is cruel, dangerous to the surrounding humans, and terribly unfair. These cats do not choose their lifestyle. Irresponsible humans have created the problem, and the solution is not to murder them outright nor to attempt to starve them out by passing legislation making it illegal to feed them! The sad fact is that neither method will EVER sure the problem. And, a starving animal is dangerous and desperate, no matter the species. Poor nutrition will certainly foster diseases, and may lead to attacks on other domesticaed animals, or fights with domesticaed animals which will spread said diseases.

The Town of Brookhaven needs to entirely rethink the matter. Here in Southampton Township, and East Hampton also, we have learned to deal with a situation that recurs every year. Visitors obtain a cute kitten for the kiddies to play with, and when they leave at the end of the season, they either give kitty a ride to the beach, or leave her behind to fend for herself. Should she not come across a kind hearted soul, or be captured under the program, she WILL reproduce if not spayed, and she, and her kittens, face a dangerous, uncertain and unpleasant future.

We frown upon people running about with guns taking potshots at everything they think is a "feral" cat. We also choose not to ignore the obvious problem, or to poison or kill them all. It's expensive and short sighted, as next season we will have it to do all over aqain. Even with the program, we are always getting new cats dumped off somewhere, but, if they cannot find another intact adult to breed with, we have a MUCH better chance of controlling the situation.

I would urge those in the decision making position in Brookhaven to consult with Animal Control officials in SHT, or with SHT Supervisor Anna Throne-Holts office. She was instumental in bringing about the privatization of our shelter, and I am certain her office would be more than willing to offer advice and assistance to the Town of Brookhaven as well.

Thank you for taking the time to read my opinion. I wish you all the best with the matter, and sincerely hope you choose a solution which is both humane, and effective in terms of cost and long term operation. Cheers!
CameFromGoogle

Rocky Point, NY

#108 Jun 7, 2011
rengaw wrote:
So I'm assuming that your reasoning applies to dog owners as well? Keep them in your house, make sure they use the litter box and don't let them outside. I have more dogs roaming my yard than cats.
You just don't see the cats. ;0)
CameFromGoogle

Rocky Point, NY

#109 Jun 7, 2011
paul wrote:
The TNR program is not a viable soloution for the direct and overwhelming impact feral cats have on wildlife and our local ecosystem. It will be at best a "feel good" soloution, with no effect on the problem. Question: where will the neutered cats be released? Brookhaven town does not have the forest area to absorb even a fraction of their numbers. Are we willing to subject the wildlife in their newfound "home" to the damage they will do? I stand by my opinion expressed in Monday's forum. Feral cats should be declared legal prey for shotgun hunters. There should be a bounty paid for the extinction of each, to cover the cost of amunition and equipment. While this soloution may sound harsh to some, it is far more humane than the miserable existance and eventual death from disease and starvation of all feral cats.
And then you will be forced to watch as kittens slowly starve, then die as they cry for their mama.
Maur

Medford, NY

#110 Jun 8, 2011
Ice wrote:
I competely disagree with Paul. Obviously, he has no understanding of how an effective TNR program operates. I also completely ignore the ridiculous postings from the fellow calling himself Joe Cop. Obviously, he is either deeply disturbed or some bored moron who finds it amusing to post outrageouds suggestions to inflame the random reader. I am fortunate to live in the Town of Southampton, where our feral cat program works extremely well. In combination with our no-kill shelter, vets who are willing to perform spays and neuters pro bono or on a nominal scale, and volunteers who will foster young kittens until adoption or feed the colonies, our cat problem has steadily improved, particularly over the last ten years.
For those unfamiliar: A TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) program is essentially described in the title. Those cats who are too ill, too injured or too old are humanely euthanised. Those who are too wild to become suitable pets are "fixed" and returned to their colony. Young kittens and cats, or those dumped off who were former loving pets are fostered or put into the shelter for adoption. Over time, with diligence in trapping new arrivals and attrition as the older members of the colony can no longer reproduce, the colonies die out and disappear. It is both humane, and cost effective.
Shooting the cats is CERTAINLY NOT the answer! It is cruel, dangerous to the surrounding humans, and terribly unfair. These cats do not choose their lifestyle. Irresponsible humans have created the problem, and the solution is not to murder them outright nor to attempt to starve them out by passing legislation making it illegal to feed them! The sad fact is that neither method will EVER sure the problem. And, a starving animal is dangerous and desperate, no matter the species. Poor nutrition will certainly foster diseases, and may lead to attacks on other domesticaed animals, or fights with domesticaed animals which will spread said diseases.
The Town of Brookhaven needs to entirely rethink the matter. Here in Southampton Township, and East Hampton also, we have learned to deal with a situation that recurs every year. Visitors obtain a cute kitten for the kiddies to play with, and when they leave at the end of the season, they either give kitty a ride to the beach, or leave her behind to fend for herself. Should she not come across a kind hearted soul, or be captured under the program, she WILL reproduce if not spayed, and she, and her kittens, face a dangerous, uncertain and unpleasant future.
We frown upon people running about with guns taking potshots at everything they think is a "feral" cat. We also choose not to ignore the obvious problem, or to poison or kill them all. It's expensive and short sighted, as next season we will have it to do all over aqain. Even with the program, we are always getting new cats dumped off somewhere, but, if they cannot find another intact adult to breed with, we have a MUCH better chance of controlling the situation.
I would urge those in the decision making position in Brookhaven to consult with Animal Control officials in SHT, or with SHT Supervisor Anna Throne-Holts office. She was instumental in bringing about the privatization of our shelter, and I am certain her office would be more than willing to offer advice and assistance to the Town of Brookhaven as well.
Thank you for taking the time to read my opinion. I wish you all the best with the matter, and sincerely hope you choose a solution which is both humane, and effective in terms of cost and long term operation. Cheers!
While waiting for these released feral cats to die ,how many more birds are killed ?. When I moved to my home on more than 4 acres in 1985 there were wild rabbits feeding everyday .birds of every type and other small animals such as chipmunks .Now there are few birds no rabbits left but more cats .
keel027

Bronx, NY

#111 Oct 19, 2011
To prevent predation of native species, & the spread of diseases, destroying the feral strays is the only realistic option.
Ken

Centereach, NY

#112 Jan 29, 2013
paul wrote:
The TNR program is not a viable soloution for the direct and overwhelming impact feral cats have on wildlife and our local ecosystem. It will be at best a "feel good" soloution, with no effect on the problem. Question: where will the neutered cats be released? Brookhaven town does not have the forest area to absorb even a fraction of their numbers. Are we willing to subject the wildlife in their newfound "home" to the damage they will do? I stand by my opinion expressed in Monday's forum. Feral cats should be declared legal prey for shotgun hunters. There should be a bounty paid for the extinction of each, to cover the cost of amunition and equipment. While this soloution may sound harsh to some, it is far more humane than the miserable existance and eventual death from disease and starvation of all feral cats.
That is a nonsense answer not backed by any science. First of all true Feral Cats are born outside and survice just fine with at best a little assitance from the many groups who will catch spay/neuter and release them, as well as provide them with some extra food support. This would be a better more cost effective solution. Second and as important is that allowing hunting or trapping of feral cats will ultimately guarantee more house cats are killed or maimed than feral cats in fact from my experiences peoples dogs are shot as well. Stupid move!
Ken

Centereach, NY

#113 Jan 29, 2013
keel027 wrote:
To prevent predation of native species, & the spread of diseases, destroying the feral strays is the only realistic option.
That is a nonsense answer not backed by any science. First of all true Feral Cats are born outside and survice just fine with at best a little assitance from the many groups who will catch spay/neuter and release them, as well as provide them with some extra food support. This would be a better more cost effective solution. Second and as important is that allowing hunting or trapping of feral cats will ultimately guarantee more house cats are killed or maimed than feral cats in fact from my experiences peoples dogs are shot as well. Stupid move!
Outdoor Cats

Selden, NY

#114 Feb 1, 2013
Why Cats Should Be Culled
Every few months, the fact that domestic cats are ruthless killers hits the news. This past summer it was the Kitty Cam, memorably explained by webcomic The Oatmeal, which saw nearly one-third of cats kill 2 animals each week on average. In 2011 a study found that domestic cats were responsible for nearly half of predation on baby gray catbirds (Dumetella carolinensis), a shy bird common in the mid-Atlantic and named for its cat-like call. And this morning, Nature Communications published a large analysis estimating how many animals are killed by cats annually in the US: 1.4-3.7 billion birds and 6.9-20.7 billion mammals each year .

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/culturing...

“The No Troll Zone”

Since: Jan 13

Where it's at.

#115 Feb 1, 2013
Outdoor Cats wrote:
Why Cats Should Be Culled
Every few months, the fact that domestic cats are ruthless killers hits the news. This past summer it was the Kitty Cam, memorably explained by webcomic The Oatmeal, which saw nearly one-third of cats kill 2 animals each week on average. In 2011 a study found that domestic cats were responsible for nearly half of predation on baby gray catbirds (Dumetella carolinensis), a shy bird common in the mid-Atlantic and named for its cat-like call. And this morning, Nature Communications published a large analysis estimating how many animals are killed by cats annually in the US: 1.4-3.7 billion birds and 6.9-20.7 billion mammals each year .
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/culturing...
My cat was a serial Blue Jay killer. He's no longer allowed outside after he tried to kill TWO baby rabbits at one time.
Paul Yanks

Weaverville, NC

#116 Feb 1, 2013
My cat had kittens
momma chamberlin

Phoenix, AZ

#117 Feb 2, 2013
The Anti-Troll wrote:
<quoted text>
My cat was a serial Blue Jay killer. He's no longer allowed outside after he tried to kill TWO baby rabbits at one time.
I used to milk cats and play with rabbits....

“Stay cool!!!!!”

Since: May 08

New York, NY

#118 Feb 2, 2013
Paul Yanks wrote:
My cat had kittens


this is momma chamberlin....note the nc isp
Tree Hugger

Selden, NY

#119 Feb 4, 2013
Cats aren't so cuddly to birds and small mammals

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/farmingville-...
Joe K

Patchogue, NY

#120 Jul 25, 2013
Feral cats carry over thirty diseases and parasites that will kill you and your children . They are responsible for more species extinctions than any other introduced species. They decimate bird, amphibian and small mammal populations in their ranges. They are extinction machines. Plague or rabies with a chaser of TB anybody ? Cat hoarders will win , you will lose. Toxoplasmosis in your brain anybody?
Great Idea

Bronx, NY

#121 Jul 26, 2013
Great Idea

Bronx, NY

#122 Jul 26, 2013
Joe K wrote:
Feral cats carry over thirty diseases and parasites that will kill you and your children . They are responsible for more species extinctions than any other introduced species. They decimate bird, amphibian and small mammal populations in their ranges. They are extinction machines. Plague or rabies with a chaser of TB anybody ? Cat hoarders will win , you will lose. Toxoplasmosis in your brain anybody?
This is True so keep them inside if you love them.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/20...
marmaduke

Medford, NY

#123 Jul 27, 2013

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 6
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

New York Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
jets talk back (Dec '07) 4 min Unbiased Chargers... 9,330
Giants talk back (Dec '06) 5 min JETS 4 LIFE 3,063
Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision (Jan '08) 19 min Mychihuahuawillbite 306,208
Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds ... (Dec '08) 55 min Who 47,477
Yankee talk back 4, or is it 5 (Aug '08) 2 hr jimi-yank 309,279
OBAMA is the BEST PRESIDENT EVER (Nov '10) 2 hr Maude 15,550
Topix most fooled and laughed at poster (Apr '13) 3 hr jimi-yank 80
Nassau/Suffolk High School Football (Nov '11) 6 hr the real deal 11,001

New York News Video

New York Dating
Find my Match

New York Jobs

New York People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

New York News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in New York

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]