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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 72030 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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Voluntarist

United States

#56073 Jul 19, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
really? who started the confrontation? remember, Martin was not required to back away when confronted by Zimmerman under Florida law. If he had a reasonable fear, he could strike first under Florida law.
Confrontation and aggression are two different things.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#56074 Jul 19, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
First, there are all kinds of people killing "Blacks" in Jamaica and getting away with it. Blacks are being killed to the tune of over 300 per 100,000 population per year in Jamaica.
Second, did you happen to read my discourse with Volunteer on Martin and Zimmerman? Maybe you should before mouthing off. 56061 and 64
Eric---there are all kinds of people killing "Blacks" in Jamaica

Hugh--- Are you speaking about "whites" like yourself?

Again my point remains, if I were stalked in Jamaica by anyone like TM was I would believe that the stalker was an ill-wisher and I would seek to defend myself.

Also, I know that if you/Eric were in TM position you would do nothing

Finally, I was responding to Joel's question plus I have not read your exchanges with the other poster.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#56075 Jul 19, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no law against Burqas in the US. I even have women in my neighborhood who wear them.
We do have some restrictions in certain states against wearing a veil during Driver License photos (for obvious reasons) but those laws are equally appropriate for men and nonIslamists - should any be interested.
I was speaking about Europe dear, where there "IS" Ban on Burqa.

The Virus would soon reach USA, USA is a "little retarded in this as compared to Europe"....but it will catch on as it is doing on those Homosexual laws.

One by one all states are lining up. Do not worry, it is only a matter of time.
Voluntarist

United States

#56076 Jul 19, 2013
Covert Stealth Ops wrote:
<quoted text>You would be wrong. The eyewitness testimony was that Zimmerman was pursuing Trayvon from left to right. Caught him and fro minutes the two stood upright throws punches. Testimony was that Zimmerman was told to stay in the car, he did not.
Also, two crucial points are that Trayvon was a child and Zimmerman and almost 30 year old man. A child can not consent to mutual combat. Second, Trayvon was not arriving in the neighborhood, he was already there at home watching the NBA All star game, ran out of snacks and went to 711 and was hurrying back to catch LeBron and Kobe go at it. Talking with and fighting Zimmerman was not his objective, saving his life was. He called Rachel because he feared for his life and once he made that call expressing his fear, Zimmerman legally had no stand your ground or fear for his life defense.
Who threw the first punch?

Also, why did msnbc doctor the 911 tapes.

He was not a child not a boy he was a young man.
These same types of children as you call them, I call them thugs , stick up people , places and car jack.
These are young thugs not defenseless boys.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#56077 Jul 19, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
First, there are all kinds of people killing "Blacks" in Jamaica and getting away with it. Blacks are being killed to the tune of over 300 per 100,000 population per year in Jamaica.
Second, did you happen to read my discourse with Volunteer on Martin and Zimmerman? Maybe you should before mouthing off. 56061 and 64
Eric---Blacks are being killed to the tune of over 300 per 100,000 population per year in Jamaica.

Hugh--- what is the population of Jamaica?

How many murders are committed per year in Jamaica?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#56078 Jul 19, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
So where's the citation from your end? Surely, if this really happened, you have a link to an article about it, do you not? Until then, it's just unverified chit chat - something you are very good at.
<quoted text>
First of all, I see women in the U.S. wearing burqas all the time. I cannot speak for Europe as I don't live there. However, it is my understanding that laws that do partially ban burqas and hijabs were passed as a reaction to incidents whereby your fanatical comrades decided to strap bombs on women and hide them underneath their Burqas. Hence, laws were passed to make it harder to do that. You can blame your fellow jihadists for that, not "The West". If your people played nice and stopped intentionally trying to harm civilians, maybe they wouldn't have to put restrictions on them.
Please see my remarks to Mr. Frijoles.

Obviously you are the one who think world starts with USA and ends where USA boundary ends.

Islam is universal religion, from north pole to south pole.
Voluntarist

United States

#56079 Jul 19, 2013
Covert Stealth Ops wrote:
<quoted text>Indeed, and Martin was a child and so his standard was that of a child and he could not consent to mutual combat. The other thing is this, anyone who knows what "involuntary manslaughter" is would know that a failure to not even make that verdict could only be racist or ignorance based.
Blame that on the prosecutor he was the one that was grand standing on murder, you have involuntary manslaughter at best.
The prosecution put on a horrible case even with the bias that the judge had the jury still acquitted.
I presume that the state had a horrible case otherwise they would of sought an indictment.
Daddy Rosenfelders MD

Sonoma, CA

#56081 Jul 19, 2013
Hiya Leslie,
Seems likely that what we have here with MRN #234994Z8 is a case of classic hyser-perflurginnen sphincter rash from apparent bowel distension and obstruction caused by too much stuff remaining for too long in the colon. The colon will not evacuate due to what has been described as negative peristalsis brought about by abuse of prescription drugs and some unusual performances during bathing. The earlier recommendation for rash site salt-rubs appears to me to be somewhat drastic at this point, and I would prefer a regimen of reduced to NO self manipulation during bathing and a return to the prescribing Physician for an honest cost benefit evaluation of your patient's drug regimen.
Regards,
Luther.....

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#56083 Jul 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I was speaking about Europe dear, where there "IS" Ban on Burqa.
The Virus would soon reach USA, USA is a "little retarded in this as compared to Europe"....but it will catch on as it is doing on those Homosexual laws.
One by one all states are lining up. Do not worry, it is only a matter of time.
Why are you talking about Europe when neither you nor I live there? Might as well be talking about New Zealand - that is equally relevant

Now you are comparing clothing bans with homosexuality?

I cant recollect a time on this forum where you ever got the culture and politics of the US right.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#56084 Jul 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Please see my remarks to Mr. Frijoles.
Obviously you are the one who think world starts with USA and ends where USA boundary ends.
Islam is universal religion, from north pole to south pole.
What you promote as "Islam" has virtually no commonality with what is practiced in the U.S. Thank Allah.

Since: Aug 11

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#56085 Jul 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Please see my remarks to Mr. Frijoles.
Obviously you are the one who think world starts with USA and ends where USA boundary ends.
Islam is universal religion, from north pole to south pole.
1. Still no citation from you. I'll take that as admission of defeat from you on that point.

2. What Europe does is their business, not mine. Europe also has a VAT tax. You don't see me complaining about that either, do you?

3. I gave you the reason why Europe has those laws. You seem to have conveniently side stepped discussion around that. Not surprising.

4. Yes, Islam is a global phenomenon. Unfortunately, viruses have a way of spreading globally.

Since: May 12

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#56086 Jul 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Extra warm wishes to Frijoles, Stefano and Hugh.
It sounds like you have quitted this forum. If it's so goodbye and good luck. Talk with you few months later.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#56089 Jul 20, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Still no citation from you. I'll take that as admission of defeat from you on that point.
2. What Europe does is their business, not mine. Europe also has a VAT tax. You don't see me complaining about that either, do you?
3. I gave you the reason why Europe has those laws. You seem to have conveniently side stepped discussion around that. Not surprising.
4. Yes, Islam is a global phenomenon. Unfortunately, viruses have a way of spreading globally.
French police station attacked amid tensions over ban on Muslim face veils

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/2861be0...

"....The Friday night violence came after a gathering of about 200-250 people to protest the arrest of a man whose wife was ticketed Thursday for wearing a face veil. The husband tried to strangle an officer who was doing the ticketing, the prosecutor said...."

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“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

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#56090 Jul 20, 2013
Covert Stealth Ops wrote:
<quoted text>Most? Strange word. It implies that you took a poll of all of your group and at least 51% agreed and became most. 49% would not be most.
We took a poll at the weekly meeting of the Global Jewish Conspiracy book club (meeting every Wednesday -- bring a hot dish)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#56091 Jul 20, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
<quoted text>
We took a poll at the weekly meeting of the Global Jewish Conspiracy book club (meeting every Wednesday -- bring a hot dish)
Last time I brought a hot dish, my wife found out about it, and I was in the dog house for a week.

Since: Aug 11

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#56093 Jul 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
French police station attacked amid tensions over ban on Muslim face veils
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/2861be0...
"....The Friday night violence came after a gathering of about 200-250 people to protest the arrest of a man whose wife was ticketed Thursday for wearing a face veil. The husband tried to strangle an officer who was doing the ticketing, the prosecutor said...."
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Why am I not surprised?
Voluntarist

United States

#56094 Jul 20, 2013
And the conspiracy continues
Voluntarist

United States

#56095 Jul 20, 2013
Oklahoma City Bomb
Report
This report
on the
bombing of
the Murrah
Federal
Building in
Oklahoma
City was
prepared by
Brigadier
General
Benton K.
Partin,
USAF (Ret.)
and dated
July 30,
1995.
The report was submitted to the U.S.
Congress and is a matter of the
Congressional Record.
Intro to the Oklahoma City Bombing Report
PART ONE: Bomb Damage Analysis
PART TWO: Analysis of Graphic Evidence
PART THREE: Analysis of Photographic
Evidence
PART FOUR: Conclusion and Appendix
Letter from Heidelberg to Judge David L.
Russel
Response to Heidelberg from Judge David L.
Russel
Letter from Gen Partin to U.S. Sen. Trent
Lott
Resume of Brig. Gen. Benton R. Partin USAF
(Ret.)
Voluntarist

United States

#56097 Jul 20, 2013
This Hollywoodesque version dovetailed nicely with the story that the evil Brothers Tsarnaev were
in a running gun battle with the cops, flinging home-made pressure cooker bombs at their brave
pursuers as the pair attempted to escape the long arm of the law.
Then we were told Dzhokar was being treated by Israeli doctors who “have abundant past
experience treating victims of terror… because they’re from Israel.”
“Tsarnaev is in stable condition but that because of wounds to his throat, he may never be able to
speak again,” The Blaze reported, feeding the fantasy.
In May, the story changed. It was said
Tsarnaev didn’t have a bullet wound in his
throat, but was cut.“I did see a throat
injury. To me it looked more like a knife
wound,” said Officer Jeff Campbell of the
Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority
Transit Police SWAT Unit.“It wasn’t a
puncture hole. It was a slice where it was
spread open, possibly a piece of shrapnel
from one of the explosives that they were
using the night before. It didn’t look like a
bullet wound to me. It looked like a cut of
some kind.” Campbell was supposedly part of
the team that apprehended Tsarnaev, so if
anybody knew about his wounds, it would be
Campbell and his fellow SWAT officers.
CNN later edited out the comment about the
throat wound made by Campbell.
Voluntarist

United States

#56098 Jul 20, 2013
Now we have a photo of Tsarnaev allegedly
surrendering. It was taken by a
Massachusetts State Police photographer. CBS
Boston reported on Thursday the
photographer, Sgt. Sean Murphy , gave the
photos to the Boston Magazine because he
was upset by the Rolling Stone’s recent
“glamorized” cover photo of the suspected
terrorist. Murphy is under investigation for
releasing photos to the magazine.
Note the absence of a throat wound in the photo.
The photo underscores the fact the government lied about Tsarnaev’s throat wound, as the photo
clearly shows. Is there anything else the government is lying about? Is it possible the entire event is
a government contrived fiction?
Now it’s time for somebody to release the video frame capture of the Brothers Tsarnaev dropping
their bomb-laden backpacks, photos we are assured exist but were never released. Is it possible this
is a lie as well?
Finally, it looks like the government no longer even cares about the quality of its deception. Earlier
this week, a man we are told was Dzhokar appeared in court to plead not guilty to terrorism
charges. However, according to a former wrestling teammate interviewed by the Boston Globe, the
man in court “didn’t look like” Tsarnaev. Moreover, the man brought into court had a thick accent
and Tsarnaev does not, as a cell phone video of him interacting with a child reveals (see video
below).
http://www.infowars.com/dzhokar-tsarnaevs-thr...

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