Why didn't Obama drone Bergdahl
Posted in the New York Forum
#1 Jun 3, 2014
A Taliban deputy district commander in Paktika, who called himself Haji Nadeem, told the newspaper that Bergdahl taught him how to dismantle a mobile phone and turn it into a remote control for a roadside bomb. Nadeem claimed he also received basic ambush training from the U.S. soldier.'Most of the skills he taught us we already knew,' he said.'Some of my comrades think he's pretending to be a Muslim to save himself so they wouldn't behead him.’ Afghan intelligence officials also believe that Bergdahl is 'cooperating with the Taliban' and is acting as adviser to fighters at a base in the tribal area of Pakistan.
If that report was true, Obama could have droned Bergdahl rather than freeing five terrorists to return him to the United States.
#2 Jun 3, 2014
#3 Jun 3, 2014
bergdahl is a defector.....
#4 Jun 3, 2014
So you are taking the word of a Taliban district commander as evidence against a captured American soldier?
#5 Jun 3, 2014
Sounds to me like Sgt. Bergdahl was using the oldest POW survival trick in the book: "Make the enemy think you are helping him, but don't really give him anything that he does not already know."
#6 Jun 3, 2014
The first and most obvious comment from Bowe Bergdahl’s father, Bob Bergdahl, was at the White House presser on Saturday. Walid Shoebat and company put this video together that shows us a couple of things.
First, what’s been said to be an Islamic greeting is in fact the most famous war cry of Islam called the “Bismillah” or the “Basmallah”. It sounds like this:“bismillah al-rahman al-rahim” which means in Arabic “in the name of Allah the most gracious, the most merciful.”
Walid Shoebat says this about it:
The “Basmallah” is the Islamic expression for victory and only indicates that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s father is a Muslim.…When one gives the basmallah, trims his mustache and elongates his beard, its the first sign of a convert to Islam.
Now watch the video they put together and notice Obama grins ear to ear when he hears the “Basmallah”:
I think the extra slow-mo probably wasn’t necessary but it did crack me up.
Obama’s smile says much. Obama has never declared the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and has no real testimony of converting to Christianity, as his pastor Jeremiah Wright stated:
I made it easy for him to come to an understanding of who Jesus Christ is and not feel that he was turning his back on his Islamic friends and his Islamic traditions and his understanding of Islam
Yeah, I’m sure Obama enjoyed hearing the Basmallah, probably wished he could have said it himself.
So the Basmallah is the first thing. But even more suspicious is the YouTube activity from Bob Bergdahl on Islamic videos that he has favorited on his YouTube account. Walid Shoebat went through his Youtube account and starts by saying this:
It reveals a dark mind, a collector of a litany of ‘terrorist favorites’, videos from training on how to become Muslim Jihadist to urging American troops to desert and even favorite speeches by confirmed terrorists like Shaykh Anwar al-Awlaki, condemning America as a terrorist state.
One of the videos favorited by Bob Bergdahl was none other than a video of former terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki, explaining why the world hates America. I think we are all familiar with his Jihadi work, unfortunately.
#7 Jun 3, 2014
That’s a pretty amazing and really stupid statement to make, let alone believe in regards to President Obama..
Everything that President Obama has done to me shows clear “fruit” of him being a true Christian. Whether or not I agree with each and every thing he has done is not the issue at hand. Inferring that the President is not a true Christian is the issue at hand.
Some have used his name and the color of his skin to infer he is not Christian,“not one of us” and infer in every way he is a secret Muslim. All this is being done by those claiming to be a Christian, which is not Christian in any manner in my Christian opinion. Is it just the religious right mixing religion into their politics so they can always feel right in their opinion? The Christian Right is neither but they think they are both, which sadly results in a popular religion call the right wing Christian Taliban.
I would also first note that he was married in a Christian Church and that both of his two girls were baptized in a Christian Church.
Here is a 2004 interview with State Sen. B. Obama “LONG” before he ran for President. I hope you will read through the entire interview.
Actually, Obama may be the most explicitly Christian President in American history. If we analyze his language in the same way that historians examine the religious language of the Founding Fathers or even George W. Bush, we will find that Obama's piety, use of the Bible, and references to Christian faith and theology puts most other American presidents to shame on this front.
He:...gives praise and honor to God before a public audience?
...wants to seek God's face with other believers?
...admits that prayer humbles him?
...extolls the benefit of turning to our Creator and listening to Him?
...is motivated by faith and values in the midst of troubled times?
...wakes up every morning and prays, reads the Bible, and has "devotions?"
...is being spiritual mentored and discipled by evangelical pastors?
...claims that his Christian faith motivates him as a leader?
...tries to practice God's command to love our neighbors as ourselves?
...believes in Jesus's words: "for unto much is given, much shall be required"?
...tries to follow the biblical call to care for the "least of these."
...quotes C.S. Lewis in speeches?
...believes that Christians should be "doers of the word and not merely hearers?"
...wants to work toward building the kingdom of God on earth?
...is a loving husband and supportive father?
...prayed with Billy Graham?
...believes the Holy Spirit intervenes in his life, prompting him toward action?
Obama talked about religion as a means by which people get through difficult economic times. He discussed the mystery of God's will and his inability to decipher it entirely. He talked about the need to find ways to reduce abortion. He said he would fight AIDS and poverty around the world. He talked about the discipline of self-sacrifice for the greater good of the planet and each other.
To me this is clear “fruit” of a Christian. A true Christian not only say they are a Christian but then they walk the life of a Christian in practice and deeds and they don’t spread lies like you just did.
For me it is real interesting what strange bed fellows politics can make when politics, race, hate and religion are mixed together. People who mix religion and politics do scary things. They use religion to justify their actions in their own minds and then use religion to justify their political beliefs even to the extent of miss using the Bible and denouncing President Obama as not being Christian.
#8 Jun 3, 2014
I suppose your knowledge of Arabic and its many usages is extensive?
#9 Jun 3, 2014
Deputy national security advisor Tony Blinken struggled to cover for his boss Susan Rice on Tuesday, backtracking from her contention that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl “served with honor and distinction” in the face of tough questions from NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell.
Mitchell confronted Blinken over Rice’s Sunday claim that Bergdahl “served with honor and distinction”— an assertion almost immediately disproven by scores of Bergdahl’s comrades and official Pentagon reports, which show the soldier abandoned his post and may have been seeking to join the Taliban.
>Obama traded a traitor for FIVE Islamo Fascist America haters...chaulk up another Obama scandal!
#10 Jun 3, 2014
President Bush declared the War in Afghanistan was over before he left office.. That being the case either try the combatants for War Crimes - give them a open trial - or exchange prisoners.
Problem is if they had a open trial the combatants, lawyers would point out that Bush/Cheney should be charged with War Crimes too. Simply at some reasonable point all prisoners are entitled to a trial or be released.
Then if this country has either a honorable soldier or a deserter coming home either way all of us should want to deal with the matter. Put YOUR Monroe stupid politics aside for once and let the true fact come out either way and then deal with him.
Let the man have his say as to what happened and let him answer his critics.
#11 Jun 3, 2014
Yawn...getting lazy? Or do you think that your dribble is that good to copy and paste from thread to thread. I did catch you edit of "YOUR Monroe" though. Funny that YOUR Custer stupid politics are in every one of YOUR post/copy and paste.
#12 Jun 3, 2014
Yes I am getting lazy in dealing with the pure stupidity that flows like a sewer pipe out of Monroe
#13 Jun 3, 2014
YAWN...When will the Oliver Stone movie 'DESERTER' come out?
#14 Jun 3, 2014
#15 Jun 3, 2014
I have some serious problems with the whole concept of classifying enemy guerrilla fighters in Afghanistan and Iraq as "unlawful combatants" no matter what the Geneva conventions and other international law might say.
American culture has, after all, long held up armed civilians resisting invaders as an ideal to be emulated. Francis Marion "the Swamp Fox" hero of the American Revolution in South Carolina was, after all, an "unlawful combatant." So were local civilians who took up arms to resist British incursions during the War of 1812.
We also hold up the French (and other European) Resistance fighters who fought against the Nazis as heroes.
Hollywood has repeatedly portrayed armed American civilians resisting fictional foreign invaders. Examples: the two "Red Dawn" movies.
And, lest we forget, the U.S. praised the Afghan mujaheddin as heroes, and provided them with arms, including very advanced Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, when they were fighting the Soviet invaders.
There can be no question that the 9-11 hijackers were "unlawful combatants." They were mass murderers taking offensive action against unarmed Americans on American soil. But someone resisting American invaders on their home soil cannot be called an "unlawful combatant" without risking the precedent coming back to bite us at some future time.
#16 Jun 4, 2014
Since "all" military actions are ending shortly in Afghanistan I believe that International Law requires a prisoner exchange.
So for all practical purposes they were going to be released in the near future anyway.
#17 Jun 4, 2014
The end of military action in Afghanistan doesn't mean that the 'enemy combatants' NOT POW's in Quitmo will be going anywhere after the Bergdahl fiasco that is getting BI-PARTISAN condemnation.
“Who Wants a Cookie??”
Since: Mar 11
#18 Jun 4, 2014
He is a great American just like Jane Fonda another persecuted American Hero
Jane Fonda was a great American hero. She saved over 100,000 US kids lives at a minimum and probably 1 million Vietnamese lives.
All Vietnam era veterans, such as myself and I speak on behalf of most Vietnam veterans, as well as all veterans as well as all , each and every single American, I speak for everyone and we all say thank you Ms. Fonda - for saving so many lives.
You see, not many here really know about the Vietnam war, Vietnam was always one country, never was a North and a South Vietnam, as it stands today, it's always been that way.
But the US military, doing the bidding of corporate interests, decided to start a civil war and divide the country on a political basis. Today we divide countries on religious basis.
We bomb a mosque or two, kill some kids during Ramadan and basically start a civil war, like in Iraq. But the US got its ass kicked then as it's getting its ass kicked today.
Just remember, Jane Fonda got John McCain released as a POW and he flew home with her. McCain has nothing but the highest respect and admiration for Jane Fonda, just like all Nam veterans have the same respect and admiration for the courage that Jane Fonda showed.
#20 Jun 4, 2014
http://www.wo rldaffairsboardDOTcom/internat iona...
Nice try, you failed, go see your Uncle Joe he needs to be rubbed out...hahaha
Since: Oct 07
And Never Fooled
#21 Jun 4, 2014
So then can you explain why this soldier left a note before he deserted about how he was so disillusioned about our military? Why his dad was speaking muslim and thanked allah and tweeted out sympathy for the Taliban after his sons release?
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