Underachieving Mets aren 't boasting anymore

There are 19 comments on the Mar 3, 2008, Newsday story titled Underachieving Mets aren 't boasting anymore. In it, Newsday reports that:

And by the time the 2007 Mets completed the most ignominious regular-season collapse in the history of sports, it had become an .embarrassment. So this year, wisely, the Mets' marketing department has put a ...

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Since: Jan 07

N Massapequa

#188 Mar 5, 2008
Muhammad wrote:
And like I said your point of generalizing is pointless...fans are fans... good and bad..<quoted text>
it's not pointless - every time wallace matthews writes an article critical of the mets this board is full of whiney complaints. EVERYTIME! that's my whole point. whenever there's an article critical of the yankees there isn't nearly as much venom directed at the person

Since: Jan 07

N Massapequa

#189 Mar 5, 2008
Lost Rights James Bovard wrote:
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Mike Piazza was NEVER booed at Shea Stadium.
EVER.
They gave him a standing O the first day he played (I know I was there) and NEVER stopped loving him after that. I know that also because I couldn't stand him. He was another choke artist like A-Rod but my fellow Mets fans always overlooked it.
Piazza was the king of the 3 run homer when the Mets were up by 4.
"Not only were the expectations for Piazza high, but as a catcher he played the same position as injured fan-favorite Todd Hundley. Met fans had little tolerance for slumps, and early struggles led to boos whenever Piazza made an out."

http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/pl...

Idi0t. I love when you silly little Met fans reveal your own ignorance.
Nate Diz

New York, NY

#190 Mar 6, 2008
What kind of f@cking nonsense is this dumb@ss spewing here? How can he say "If they don't get it done this year, the Wilpons might as well start tearing down the roster along with the old stadium." You would never get rid of Reyes, or Wright, or Beltran, or Castillo, or Santana, or Maine. And I doubt Church and Schneider are giong anywhere after just a year of time. Which leaves one OF spot open - oh, did somebody say Fernando Martinez? And what's this talk about the Mets having no chance. THEY LOST THE DIVISION BY ONE GAME. All drama and "records" aside, they have to make up one game. And between all the health their gaining back (aside from Alou), and the additions of Johan and a younger RF, I can only expect much better things out of the Mets this year.
And in terms of new slogans how about this: the past is passed, let's kick some ass.

“Small gov't.Low taxes, Freedom”

Since: Mar 07

Ronkonkoma

#191 Mar 6, 2008
paul wrote:
Umm, Lost Rights: I was at a game in 1998 where Piazza was loudly booed. Mets fans turned on Piazza when he slumped in the summer of 1998, and didn't really start to worship him until after he started to carry the team down the stretch.
When did he slump? He hit .348 from June to Sept.? When was there time to slump?

Where is there a prolonged slump that would have earned him boos?

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/hitti...

Sorry, but I think you are mistaken.
Piazza was NEVER booed at Shea.

“Small gov't.Low taxes, Freedom”

Since: Mar 07

Ronkonkoma

#192 Mar 6, 2008
scott k wrote:
I'm as big a Mets fan as anyone here. You people that whine over a column that you deem negative are so off base. Don't you guys realize that he writes these types of articles on purpose to stimulate conversation? Do you guys want all the articles in a paper to be sugar coated to appease your onesided views. Wally reads every whining comment and plans another article to p i s s you people off. The more whining the more negative columns. Wake up drones.
Who's whining over every article that's negative?

this alleged "writer" is pointless and thoughtless and an embarrassment to journalists worldwide. He didn't write this article to stimulate controversy, I'm sure in Wallace's head he really WAS making a point with this less than sophomoric worthless article.

Anybody can enjoy reading a negative article that is productive or proves apoint. There wasn't a VALID point to this article, however, so it becomes irrelevant rather than thought provoking.

“Small gov't.Low taxes, Freedom”

Since: Mar 07

Ronkonkoma

#193 Mar 6, 2008
Piats wrote:
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That's some revisionist history. Piazza had numerous clutch hits on a consistently anemic offensive club. In his prime, he had no weakness at the plate - no location that a pitcher could exploit. A-Rod has some holes in his swing and Ks far more frequently that Piazza.
Numerous clutch hits? WHEN? Give me a list of FIVE clutch Piazza hits, and you can't use gane 6 of the Atlanta series because it was PIAZZA himself that caused the 5 run deficit his 3 run HR vaulted them back from.

name 5 Piazza NY MET clutch hits. I'll see you next summer when you get back to me on that.

“Small gov't.Low taxes, Freedom”

Since: Mar 07

Ronkonkoma

#194 Mar 6, 2008
Wallace Matthews wrote:
Just because I scored a 650 on my SATs, don't know anything about sports, and hate my life is no reason to make fun of me.
And 600 of that 650 was in the MATH portion obviously.

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Since: Mar 07

Ronkonkoma

#195 Mar 6, 2008
Cali Islander wrote:
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i only remember because oh I WAS THERE and I REMEMBER READING ABOUT IT IN NEWSDAY. Of course most people on here wouldn;t remember since they're prolly 14
Well I'm NOT most people and I wasn't 14. And I know PIAZZA WAS NEVER BOOED AT SHEA.

He hit .348 from June to Sept. What would Mets fans POSSIBLY have to boo at?

Look, I'm not defending Piazza, I couldn't stand him. He was the worst clutch hitting "superstar" I ever watched play. At least A-Rod hits during the regular season, Piazza was useless in the clutch, BUT Mets fans loved him from DAY ONE and he was NOT booed at Shea.

Your hatred of the Mets has caused you to ......to.....to........MISREME MBER.....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

No seriously, Piazza never got booed at Shea.

“Small gov't.Low taxes, Freedom”

Since: Mar 07

Ronkonkoma

#196 Mar 6, 2008
Cali Islander wrote:
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"Not only were the expectations for Piazza high, but as a catcher he played the same position as injured fan-favorite Todd Hundley. Met fans had little tolerance for slumps, and early struggles led to boos whenever Piazza made an out."
http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/pl...
Idi0t. I love when you silly little Met fans reveal your own ignorance.
SO one name;less knucklehead writes an article for baseball library .com and that makes it TRUE?

His only stretch with the team that year that was less than stellar was his 1st week, and the fans were just happy he was even there at that point to be booing him.

The only person here revealing their ignorance is you sir, I am a Met fan and wouldn't presume to tell a Yankee fan what they KNOW and REMEBER about their team.

I don't care what some nameless hack writer wrote for a web site.
Piazza was never booed at Shea.

Since: Jan 07

N Massapequa

#197 Mar 6, 2008
Lost Rights James Bovard wrote:
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Well I'm NOT most people and I wasn't 14. And I know PIAZZA WAS NEVER BOOED AT SHEA.
He hit .348 from June to Sept. What would Mets fans POSSIBLY have to boo at?
Look, I'm not defending Piazza, I couldn't stand him. He was the worst clutch hitting "superstar" I ever watched play. At least A-Rod hits during the regular season, Piazza was useless in the clutch, BUT Mets fans loved him from DAY ONE and he was NOT booed at Shea.
Your hatred of the Mets has caused you to ......to.....to........MISREME MBER.....
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....
No seriously, Piazza never got booed at Shea.
lol! keep denying it. I find proof and you still can't accept it. hilarious. then you go on to knock piazza as not being clutch? were you even watching the 1999 LCS. particularly in game 6, he almost single handedly carried them to game 7. obviously you are no kind of met fan, you knock piazza in the middle of your defending met fans behavior and go on to say how you don't like him that much.

Since: Jan 07

N Massapequa

#198 Mar 6, 2008
Lost Rights James Bovard wrote:
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SO one name;less knucklehead writes an article for baseball library .com and that makes it TRUE?
His only stretch with the team that year that was less than stellar was his 1st week, and the fans were just happy he was even there at that point to be booing him.
The only person here revealing their ignorance is you sir, I am a Met fan and wouldn't presume to tell a Yankee fan what they KNOW and REMEBER about their team.
I don't care what some nameless hack writer wrote for a web site.
Piazza was never booed at Shea.
If Sosa struggles and the fans in Shea Stadium start booing him thickly -- as they booed Piazza in 1998, as they have booed many players -- how will Sosa react?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story...

I think you're the one who misremembered son!

HAHAHAHAHA. please keep on revealing your ignorance.

Since: Jan 07

N Massapequa

#199 Mar 6, 2008
Lost Rights James Bovard wrote:
<quoted text>
SO one name;less knucklehead writes an article for baseball library .com and that makes it TRUE?
His only stretch with the team that year that was less than stellar was his 1st week, and the fans were just happy he was even there at that point to be booing him.
The only person here revealing their ignorance is you sir, I am a Met fan and wouldn't presume to tell a Yankee fan what they KNOW and REMEBER about their team.
I don't care what some nameless hack writer wrote for a web site.
Piazza was never booed at Shea.
Players were surprised that Piazza gets routinely booed at Shea Stadium.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/19...

Since: Jan 07

N Massapequa

#200 Mar 6, 2008
Lost Rights James Bovard wrote:
<quoted text>
SO one name;less knucklehead writes an article for baseball library .com and that makes it TRUE?
His only stretch with the team that year that was less than stellar was his 1st week, and the fans were just happy he was even there at that point to be booing him.
The only person here revealing their ignorance is you sir, I am a Met fan and wouldn't presume to tell a Yankee fan what they KNOW and REMEBER about their team.
I don't care what some nameless hack writer wrote for a web site.
Piazza was never booed at Shea.
Hundley struck out all three times he came to the plate, while Piazza went 1-for-4 and struck out twice. Piazza was booed by the 18,088 fans at Shea every time he came to the plate.
The loudest boos, though, came in the top of the eighth when he twice failed to throw out a runner stealing second, including once with the opposing catcher running on a pitchout.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/19...

BUT BUT BUT PIAZZA WAS NEVER BOOED AT SHEA! WAHHH! Would you like some crow with that?

“Small gov't.Low taxes, Freedom”

Since: Mar 07

Ronkonkoma

#201 Mar 6, 2008
Cali Islander wrote:
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lol! keep denying it. I find proof and you still can't accept it. hilarious. then you go on to knock piazza as not being clutch? were you even watching the 1999 LCS. particularly in game 6, he almost single handedly carried them to game 7. obviously you are no kind of met fan, you knock piazza in the middle of your defending met fans behavior and go on to say how you don't like him that much.
His HR came AFTER his throwing error caused three of the 5 1st inning runs by Atlanta.

I have been a Met fan probably longer than you've been alive.

“Small gov't.Low taxes, Freedom”

Since: Mar 07

Ronkonkoma

#202 Mar 6, 2008
Cali Islander wrote:
<quoted text>
If Sosa struggles and the fans in Shea Stadium start booing him thickly -- as they booed Piazza in 1998, as they have booed many players -- how will Sosa react?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story...
I think you're the one who misremembered son!
HAHAHAHAHA. please keep on revealing your ignorance.
The only one revealing their ignorance is you, Don't call me "son" sir because judging from your attitude and manners I'm quite a bit older than you.

I watched all season in 1998 and I do not recall Piazza ever being booed. He was in the midst of one of his best seasons ever, the fact that you were able to dig up a few obscure articles proves that I do not recall correctly, and that Piazza WAS booed.

Whatever the case may be it lasted for an infantissimally small time and never occurred again after 98.

Since: Jan 07

N Massapequa

#203 Mar 7, 2008
Lost Rights James Bovard wrote:
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The only one revealing their ignorance is you, Don't call me "son" sir because judging from your attitude and manners I'm quite a bit older than you.
I watched all season in 1998 and I do not recall Piazza ever being booed. He was in the midst of one of his best seasons ever, the fact that you were able to dig up a few obscure articles proves that I do not recall correctly, and that Piazza WAS booed.
Whatever the case may be it lasted for an infantissimally small time and never occurred again after 98.
it's okay, you just misremembered!
Muhammad

Woodmere, NY

#204 Mar 7, 2008
What did you do count?? 10-9 or something ridiculous like that.. NY fans are NY fans to say one is better behaved is stupid.. plus Wallace is a dope in his subjective provovcative style like a few weeks back comparing a cheating, lying Clemens to Pedro who is a prima donna like most superstars these days...
Cali Islander wrote:
<quoted text>
it's not pointless - every time wallace matthews writes an article critical of the mets this board is full of whiney complaints. EVERYTIME! that's my whole point. whenever there's an article critical of the yankees there isn't nearly as much venom directed at the person
Muhammad

Woodmere, NY

#205 Mar 7, 2008
I have to agree with you here, Piazza was booed by Met fans and I rememeber thinking that these people are idiots... and they booed Strawberry as well I know because I got into a fight with a fan for doing it. It was 86 and they were leading the division by double digits in August.. But NY fans can be knowledgeable and some are down right ignorant and disrepectful of the game they are watching. Doesn't matter what fans.. Mets, Yanks, jets, giants etc..,,,
Cali Islander wrote:
<quoted text>
lol! keep denying it. I find proof and you still can't accept it. hilarious. then you go on to knock piazza as not being clutch? were you even watching the 1999 LCS. particularly in game 6, he almost single handedly carried them to game 7. obviously you are no kind of met fan, you knock piazza in the middle of your defending met fans behavior and go on to say how you don't like him that much.

“Small gov't.Low taxes, Freedom”

Since: Mar 07

Ronkonkoma

#206 Mar 7, 2008
Cali Islander wrote:
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it's okay, you just misremembered!
LOL yes I guess so, But still he was only booed for a short time and never again after that.

The only Time I could possibly see that he might have been booed was during the 98 Met/Yankee series, which is why you probably remember it.

Still after that he went on a tear and I'm sure he was never booed again.

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