Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 311215 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“Blessed Be”

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#282123 Feb 5, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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When People choose to have sex, They assume all wrist that come along with it. You know as well as I do that most people who get pregnant don't even use contraceptives. Most abortions come from a 1 night stand or a very short term relationship.
People want pleasure without any negative ramifications,but that is not how life works. If there was no God, it would work that way, but people would not like that very much either. It would mean someone could rape,murder, or both and be just fine.
People want to condemn others, and at the same time get away with whatever they choose.
Contraceptives was introduced to try to fix a problem.
- They did not fix anything.
All they did was send a message to most the sex could be safe, but as you and I both know there's no such thing as safe sex.
I'm not trying to impose laws,that says everyone must live according to the Bible, since I know full well that most people never live according to the Bible.
This is the whole reason why Jesus Christ came.
We needed a savior,and still do.
I also do not believe we should make laws that condone that behavior,and even "add to " the bad behaviors.
No sex, is worth the killing of life.
Motherhood is optional, but abortion only makes a woman the mother of a dead child.
"Most abortions come from a 1 night stand or a very short term relationship."

Incorrect. Less than half of all abortions are performed on women who are not married, or living with someone, at the time. And there are no statistics on "one night stands".

Only if the pregnant woman already has children, having given birth to them, or adopting them, is she a mother. Otherwise, she is a mother-to-be, and if she has an abortion, the "to be" will not be.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#282125 Feb 5, 2013
Angels have nothing to do with humans. Moreover, they never intended "little ones" to refer to fetuses.
Forum wrote:
<quoted text>
St. Matthew
Chapter 18
10 See that you despise not one of these little ones:
for I say to you, that their angels in heaven always
see the face of my Father who is in heaven.

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#282126 Feb 5, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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So it is your "opinion" that causing the death of a baby in the womb has no moral consequences? You also believe that by assembling a large enough crowd of godless individuals to redefine the action brings legitimacy to that action? The problem with trying engage the atheist in this topic is their belief that they are God, and are entitled to make God like decisions regarding life. So when are you going to fight for the right to kill your parents when they become an inconvenience to you?
When you want to have a discussion on abortion, let me know. All you're doing is pontificating in question form. You don't want an equal exchange of ideas, obviously.

“Pro-Life”

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#282127 Feb 5, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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"Most abortions come from a 1 night stand or a very short term relationship."
Incorrect. Less than half of all abortions are performed on women who are not married, or living with someone, at the time. And there are no statistics on "one night stands".
Only if the pregnant woman already has children, having given birth to them, or adopting them, is she a mother. Otherwise, she is a mother-to-be, and if she has an abortion, the "to be" will not be.
Bitner: "Incorrect. Less than half of all abortions are performed on women who are not married, or living with someone, at the time."

You have no stats on whether or not women are "living with someone", and you're wrong about ["less than half"] "...of all abortions are performed on women who are not married."

A site from your own PC camp says "83% unmarried". Do you need to be told that's more than half? These stats pretty much say SINGLE women.(unmarried, never married, divorced and widowed) all means single women. You have no stats on how many are "living with" a man, and guessing isn't proof. You can only go by what it states.

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/facts...
"Marital Status

Most women getting abortions (83%) are unmarried; 67% have never married, and 16% are separated, divorced, or widowed.4 Married women are significantly less likely than unmarried women to resolve unintended pregnancies through abortion.6"

Bitner: "Only if the pregnant woman already has children, having given birth to them, or adopting them, is she a mother. Otherwise, she is a mother-to-be, and if she has an abortion, the "to be" will not be."

That's opinion, Toots, and not a fact. Biologically, she is a mother when pregnant, her child is in utero.

“Pro-Life”

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#282129 Feb 5, 2013
From that site, "Married women are significantly less likely than unmarried women to resolve unintended pregnancies through abortion."

The PCers couldn't post the facts if they were on fire and posting the facts, with proof of facts, would be what's needed to put it out.

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#282130 Feb 5, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I can prove the bible condemns abortion, but why?
I can prove that two peopl having sex outside of marriage is wrong, but why?
I can prove that those who choose to live a gay lifestyle is wrong, but why?
I've been asking ole ak, why they so easily condemn me of adultery over 12 years ago "That was part of my salvation story ",and yet has no problem with gay people having kids, nor fornicators having sex.
They still have failed to answer me.
People enjoy condeming others, but don't like their sins exposed.k
I've already agreed with the worse anyone would say about me, and then some.
Things that will send one to Hell.
Adultery-having sex with others, while married
Fornication -having sex with anyone, while not married to them
Stealing -taking anything that is not yours
Lying -self -explained
Many other things.
This is why all have sinned, and fallen short of the Glory of God.
JESUS CHRIST came -that ye may have life, and that eternal.
I have eternal life, AFTER I met Jesus over 12 years ago
Why else would I want to be on here telling all of my garbage?
I can easily be anyone I wish, but tell my true story, and others can believe it or not.
You can't prove that abortion is wrong. That's why you haven't done it. Either do it, or admit you can't. Be honest.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#282131 Feb 5, 2013
It's your opinion that there are babies in the womb. Science says otherwise. Any moral consequences involved are also your opinion.

Atheists can't be god--WE exist.

BTW--life and death decisions are made every day in hospitals all over the world.
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
So it is your "opinion" that causing the death of a baby in the womb has no moral consequences? You also believe that by assembling a large enough crowd of godless individuals to redefine the action brings legitimacy to that action? The problem with trying engage the atheist in this topic is their belief that they are God, and are entitled to make God like decisions regarding life. So when are you going to fight for the right to kill your parents when they become an inconvenience to you?

“Pro-Life”

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#282132 Feb 5, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>When you want to have a discussion on abortion, let me know. All you're doing is pontificating in question form. You don't want an equal exchange of ideas, obviously.
Since when have you been here to discuss abortion, Toots? You've spent the majority of your time posting snipes at PLers. Now you want us to believe you want "an equal exchange of ideas"? Fat chance that would come from you, especially since you would need equal intelligence, knowledge of facts and sense to the PLers. You're at a disadvantage, and no ideas coming from you would be equal in those areas. All of you has the disadvantage, and the exchange of ideas with any of you would never be equal. Everything coming from you PC is ignorant, senseless and uninformed.
Gtown71

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#282133 Feb 5, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting that you don't see your contradiction here. You've claimed that the bible doesn't mention abortion AND that your god condemns it. So, WHERE does he condemn it?
Yes, if you are going to claim that the bible condemns abortion, then it DOES matter if you prove it.
Sin is a man made concept. The fact that our cells eventually die and are not replaced, and our organ systems fail, is what brings death upon us all.
You now also need to prove that "fornication" is the number one reason for abortion, especially considering the number of married women, pregnant by their husbands, who also have abortions.
AND you now need to prove that ensoulment occurs at all, and if it does, when it occurs. You DO realize that there are religions out there that teach it doesn't occur until after birth, right?
Again, your religious beliefs only apply to you and those who share your religion anyway. Not everyone is Christian. Using your religion as an argument for those who are not part of it is useless. Others will go by their own religions, or if they are not religious, by their own ethics. No one is under any obligation to pay the least amount of attention to yours.
The bible doesn't have the word bible in it either, but it is real.

Even without religion, abortion stops a living process that would more then likely lead to and infant -toddler -kid -teen -adult.

They say it is legal for ALL women for Any reason.

Are you not very thankful, that ALL women don't take advantage of their rights?
Even if someone believes in the far ferched evolution theory, then they could easily see how some things are against the very nature of human existence.

Abortion is one of those things.

God even condems a man from having sex with his wife, if he leads her to believe she will have a child, and then he does something to protect himself from getting her pregnant.

We continue to make things legal that bring destruction upon us.

Someone can look at the history of many Great countries and groups of people who were destroyed from within.

People should be free to do whatever they will, but they must also take responsibility for their actions.

There are many verses about what God thinks about reproducing.

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#282134 Feb 5, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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All I am saying, is in life, we make choices that we must own up to, and live with. We cannot dwell on our mistakes and beat ourselves up all the time, but we can't erase them either.
Now ak, seems to think I should be punished for my affair 12 years ago, in which a child was born. What do you think?
I've paid for my mistakes, and sone I have gotten away with, or atleast the punishment, this is why I needed a savior, and thankful I found Him.
Kids will have sex, and their raising has alot to do with it.o
If a kid doesn't have very much respect for themselves, then they will act that way.
Plus even those who do, at times make choices to have sex, but we must all live with our choices.
If a woman has had an abortion, then they can be saved and then forgiven.
They should not spend their life dwelling on it, but they should not pretend its ok to do, just to help themselves feel better about doing it.
If you feel abortion is wrong, you may have to work out your feelings about having had one. Most women who have abortions know what they are doing. They don't have anything to feel badly about.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#282135 Feb 5, 2013
The bible says nothing about abortion. We know that, in biblical times, life was considered to begin at the first breath, which is also when the soul entered the body. So we know getting rid of a pregnancy wasn't a sin.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well then listen to sto.
He's a "christian " who enjoys agreeing with folks as the head toward Hell, without God.
He will even try and get the bible to say abortion is ok.
I still believe with all that's in me, that if he is saved, then he will be forever saved, but as I talked earlier "some of our works will burn up like hay and stubnle ".

“Blessed Be”

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#282136 Feb 5, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Bitner: "Incorrect. Less than half of all abortions are performed on women who are not married, or living with someone, at the time."
You have no stats on whether or not women are "living with someone", and you're wrong about ["less than half"] "...of all abortions are performed on women who are not married."
A site from your own PC camp says "83% unmarried". Do you need to be told that's more than half? These stats pretty much say SINGLE women.(unmarried, never married, divorced and widowed) all means single women. You have no stats on how many are "living with" a man, and guessing isn't proof. You can only go by what it states.
http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/facts...
"Marital Status
Most women getting abortions (83%) are unmarried; 67% have never married, and 16% are separated, divorced, or widowed.4 Married women are significantly less likely than unmarried women to resolve unintended pregnancies through abortion.6"
Bitner: "Only if the pregnant woman already has children, having given birth to them, or adopting them, is she a mother. Otherwise, she is a mother-to-be, and if she has an abortion, the "to be" will not be."
That's opinion, Toots, and not a fact. Biologically, she is a mother when pregnant, her child is in utero.
I have stats that say differenly.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abo...

Wrong. Biologically, she is pregnant. Biology does not say she's a mother. You're full of shit, Troll.

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#282137 Feb 5, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
When People choose to have sex, They assume all wrist that come along with it. You know as well as I do that most people who get pregnant don't even use contraceptives. Most abortions come from a 1 night stand or a very short term relationship.
People want pleasure without any negative ramifications,but that is not how life works. If there was no God, it would work that way, but people would not like that very much either. It would mean someone could rape,murder, or both and be just fine.
People want to condemn others, and at the same time get away with whatever they choose.
Contraceptives was introduced to try to fix a problem.
- They did not fix anything.
All they did was send a message to most the sex could be safe, but as you and I both know there's no such thing as safe sex.
I'm not trying to impose laws,that says everyone must live according to the Bible, since I know full well that most people never live according to the Bible.
This is the whole reason why Jesus Christ came.
We needed a savior,and still do.
I also do not believe we should make laws that condone that behavior,and even "add to " the bad behaviors.
No sex, is worth the killing of life.
Motherhood is optional, but abortion only makes a woman the mother of a dead child.
I don't agree with you.

There you go:-)

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#282138 Feb 5, 2013
Yes. Most pro-choice people do. Have you ever seen an intestinal resection? FAR grosser...and life-saving.

Most medicalprocedures are unpleasant to laymen. It doesn't mean they shouldn't be done.
Guppy wrote:
Does anyone know how an abortion is performed? What leads up to the death of the baby?
Anyone?

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#282139 Feb 5, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>You can't prove that abortion is wrong. That's why you haven't done it. Either do it, or admit you can't. Be honest.
We can prove it, but people need a conscience and sense of humanity to be able to recognize the proof. You never will recognize it.

“Pro-Life”

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#282140 Feb 5, 2013
Never will, Elise, so long as there's no conscience or sense of humanity about your own abortion that killed your own unborn child.

“Blessed Be”

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#282141 Feb 5, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
"The bible doesn't have the word bible in it either, but it is real."

The word bible simply means book.

"Even without religion, abortion stops a living process that would more then likely lead to and infant -toddler -kid -teen -adult."

So?

"They say it is legal for ALL women for Any reason."

They are right.

"Are you not very thankful, that ALL women don't take advantage of their rights?"

Each and every woman who has ever been pregnant HAS taken advantage of her right to choose. I am thankful that this right exists for them.

"Even if someone believes in the far ferched evolution theory, then they could easily see how some things are against the very nature of human existence."

We circumvent nature every day. You ever taken an antibiotic?

"Abortion is one of those things."

No different from any other medical procedure that treats or eliminates any medical condition.

"God even condems a man from having sex with his wife, if he leads her to believe she will have a child, and then he does something to protect himself from getting her pregnant."

Which has nothing to do with anything we're discussing, even if true. The bible does not condemn abortion.

"We continue to make things legal that bring destruction upon us."

Abortion does no such thing.

"Someone can look at the history of many Great countries and groups of people who were destroyed from within."

You do have trouble staying on topic, don't you?

"People should be free to do whatever they will, but they must also take responsibility for their actions."

What constitutes responsible action regarding an unplanned pregnancy is a matter of opinion, not fact. And the fact is that the only opinion that matters, is that of the pregnant woman.

"There are many verses about what God thinks about reproducing."

And yet not one word against abortion.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#282142 Feb 5, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
It's your opinion that there are babies in the womb. Science says otherwise. Any moral consequences involved are also your opinion.
Atheists can't be god--WE exist.
BTW--life and death decisions are made every day in hospitals all over the world.
<quoted text>
Petey: "It's your opinion that there are babies in the womb. Science says otherwise."

"Babies" is subjective. There IS a "child" in the womb, and by definition, "child" includes "unborn fetus".

You have no point in claiming there's no baby in the womb, when anyone with sense knows exactly what the fetus is in relation to the woman. It's her child and whether or not you choose to deny that doesn't change that biological (scientific) fact, fool.

You don't have the knowledge to post facts, and that's proven each time you post.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#282143 Feb 5, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>If you feel abortion is wrong, you may have to work out your feelings about having had one. Most women who have abortions know what they are doing. They don't have anything to feel badly about.
Don't state that as a fact when it's only an opinion. An opinion of a person who has no humanity toward her own child in utero killed by abortion, and no conscience about it, and would have no problem with women aborting all the way until full term labor.
raises eyebrows

United States

#282144 Feb 5, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible doesn't have the word bible in it either, but it is real.
Even without religion, abortion stops a living process that would more then likely lead to and infant -toddler -kid -teen -adult.
They say it is legal for ALL women for Any reason.
Are you not very thankful, that ALL women don't take advantage of their rights?
Even if someone believes in the far ferched evolution theory, then they could easily see how some things are against the very nature of human existence.
Abortion is one of those things.
God even condems a man from having sex with his wife, if he leads her to believe she will have a child, and then he does something to protect himself from getting her pregnant.
We continue to make things legal that bring destruction upon us.
Someone can look at the history of many Great countries and groups of people who were destroyed from within.
People should be free to do whatever they will, but they must also take responsibility for their actions.
There are many verses about what God thinks about reproducing.
I've enjoyed reading your posts. You sound like such a real, down to Earth person and not just a political proxy.

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