Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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" jesus didnt need a gun or sword, he KNEW he & his apostles would be safe from lethal harm..."
What? He was CRUCIFIED...hahahahahaha! You fool.
"did you NOT claim that we needed to reduce the number of guns?"
No, I did not make that claim.
"that you dont like guns"
So? I don't.
"& want them reduced"
I never said that. You keep lying.
"explain your position then"
I have..repeatedly.
yes, b/c he was SUPPOSED to be crucified, that was half the point of Christianity, DUH!

you have NOT repeatedly explained a thing, i asked what you want, what do you want do about the gun violence problem?

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the other fact that you liberals miss is that you feel that the fact that it was an UZI as opposed to a glock means the kid was in MORE danger..........fact is he was LESS likely to accientally shoot himeself withe the uzi due to the longer barrel length....same with rifles/shotguns....it would have been fare MORE dangerous for him to be holding a glock, for instance..........so the fact that it was an Uzi is immaterial
What? It doesn't matter what gun would make it "less likely" for him to shoot himself..he DID shoot himself. He blew his own head off. And the fact that he did in fact shoot himself makes your post asinine.

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Wel, ma'am, I guess I've done my job...
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Ohhh. Thank you! I always learn so much from you!:)
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You're missing the point, imo. It's a potential person until a successful birth is complete. It doesn't matter what people hold has their own personal opinions regarding ZEFs. There are laws surrounding late and later term abortions restricting it based on ZEF's determind viability. Later term abortions are used continuously by the PLM as if these were mainstream, common, miniature newborns being massacred in their cloud of a womb. Reality shows less than 2% of all annual abortions are later term.
right & you support the right of those 2 percent, you support the killing of 25,000 of those abortions every year

"It's a potential person until a successful birth is complete." - what? what a HELLISH thing to say - that its not a PERSON/individual untill its FULLY birthed?

so, if it's 3/4ths birthed, the head is out & all, its still NOT yet a person???

explain

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Why does it only bother you when someone that disagrees with you using the name God?
Plus -I don't see any cursing, or feces, and it wouldn't bother me at all if they used a little g.
It is all about your hearts intent.
Where did I say it "bother[s]" me? I didn't say that, but I do notice that it doesn't bother you that some person is speaking using the name of your God. I find it...telling. Your fellow fundies on here often claim we're going going to burn in hell for just about everything, but someone mocks your God by speaking as him and using his name and that's fine with the fundies. More and more I learn fundie self-righteous and moral outrage is very selective.
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Actually it is the answer.
Chicky it comes down to this.. Ask your self why in a country has the mentally ill on the street.
While I am thankful that Connecticut does have a very robust healthcare system.. It is still a system hitched to the same one that makes it harder for an individual to receive help.
We need to expand and grow past this point of health care.
America when it comes to healthcare is still some 20 years behind most industrialized nations and really 10 years is probably the closet to a real national healthcare system.
What these shooters are showing is not a need for banning an assault weapons, but a need to address our healthcare in general.
Consider that Switzerland has a assault rifle for every citizen. Seriously, Google it. They learn from the time they can hold something in their hands.
Every citizen from 18 to 55 is in the military. At the same time they have a healthcare system that makes shooters like we have been having a rare event.
Banning something does not make the problem go away all the time.
It just makes the problem a little more hidden.
I say confront the issue head on. We need a real discussion in this country of just how we treat not just physically sick, but our mentally ill as well.
That is my answer, chicky.. Sorry that you would like a different one.
And Chicky I have had friends die by assault weapons on a city street. If you want to discuss this is a temp email addy
kathwynn1@yahoo.com
"They learn from the time they can hold something in their hands.

Every citizen from 18 to 55 is in the military. At the same time they have a healthcare system that makes shooters like we have been having a rare event"

really?

awesome......like Israel!

I like you better now, you're not as dumb as i thought!
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It's not an asinine question. It's a perfectly valid question. All along you misguided PC'ers have been stressing the concept of the fetus being "part of the woman" and 'sustaining its life and securing nourishment through the woman" as the primary reason for justifying why it should be her decision to terminate. Now it turns out it is NOT the primary reason......viability is. But what is viability except just another man-established point at which a fetus's life attains value and is worthy of some protection.
On top of which viability is a concept whose definition you don't even understand.
Just another example of how, when you remove the veneer of the PC argument/logic, it fails on every possible level.
For the two percent of pregnancies terminated during this time frame, you PLM sure make it sound like it is a common occurrence.

And if you weren't able to follow along, dude was asking about terminations a day or two before the due date. That's not legal due to the concept of viability.

That's my point. Your post above has little to do with the topic being discussed. You tried hard to get an unnecessary dig in, though. Good on you, Doc. Keep your true colors bright and shiny.

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yes, b/c he was SUPPOSED to be crucified, that was half the point of Christianity, DUH!
you have NOT repeatedly explained a thing, i asked what you want, what do you want do about the gun violence problem?
You said Jesus was safe from "lethal" harm. There's nothing more lethal than being crucified. Your statement was moronic. Clearly he was NOT safe from "lethal" harm.

You have not asked me previously what I want to do about the gun violence problem and therefore I could not have evaded a question you did not ask.

I have repeatedly explained my position in relation to your other rants.

I don't know what to do, but just as you think less guns is not a solution I don't think more guns is either.

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LMAO!!
What are you laughing at ? There's nothing even mildly amusing here. Are you some kinda mental patient ?
Implies? Nice try...not. Another jackass trying to force something to fit his erroneous claims.
I stand corrected. You didn't "imply". When you claimed he said that "gunmen don't f**k with police stations" you were outright SAYING that he claimed they NEVER did.

I can just as easily state that anything Seattle said about criminals not messing with police stations "implied" that meant "never". It can work both ways, Doc.
I know you can. And you DID. He never claimed any such thing. Don't forget I recall the discussion. I was involved in it. He claimed it was a deterrent.....and it is.
You don't get to to cite one example of one coward who fires anonymously into a police station under the cloak of darkness - a coward who likely would not have had the balls to confront the police face to face in broad daylight - as evidence that police carrying guns is not a deterrent. It doesn't work that way. Do security guards or Brinks truck guards....or National Guard troops who patrolled NYC subways after 9/11 with outwardly held automatic weapons doing so just so they could shoot/kill any potential thief or terrorist ? Or did their outward display of firepower also intend to discourage those who might otherwise consider breaking law if they were not carrying them ? No need to answer as the question is rhetorical and the answer is obvious.
He's talking about citizens having guns deterring crimes. Do you really see crime being deterred by citizens having guns? Criminals know it's legal for citizens to own guns, yet do you see that deterring crimes from being committed? Seems like crime is still quite rampant.
Don't misconstrue. I don't necessarily believe that citizens having guns will reduce crime. But at the same time you don't get to make blatantly wrong statements....or think that citing an example of one cowardly nutjob proves that police having guns does not provide a deterrent.

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yes there were guns in Christs time, STOOPID
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Ummm, yeah, uh, genius, that's because there was no such thing as guns when man invented god" ---------- WTF??? you dirty LIAR, actually YOU were the only one to say that! & OUTRIGHT at that
remember, or were you too drunk? you told me numerous times about how you wanted "our guns" taken away!
WTF? admit it coward
"yes there were guns in Christs time, STOOPID"

Excuse me?
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right & you support the right of those 2 percent, you support the killing of 25,000 of those abortions every year
"It's a potential person until a successful birth is complete." - what? what a HELLISH thing to say - that its not a PERSON/individual untill its FULLY birthed?
so, if it's 3/4ths birthed, the head is out & all, its still NOT yet a person???
explain
You were asking about terminating full term babies a day or two before their due dates. That's illegal dude, due to viability laws. Don't confuse yourself here, keep on point.

In case you forgot, the D&X procedure was criminalized and hasn't been reportedly used for the past few years. You should be pleased. Quit posting as if this reality was unknown to you.
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What? It doesn't matter what gun would make it "less likely" for him to shoot himself..he DID shoot himself. He blew his own head off. And the fact that he did in fact shoot himself makes your post asinine.
no, b/c it was an aside....i was making an extra point that you idiots take words like "ASSULT rifle" & UZI & automatically associate them with MORE death, MORE danger

fact is assult guns arent any MORE dangerous to an individual than a rifle or a shotgun.......

& damnit the kid's dead b/c the dad was a retard........i'll bet if the same dad gave his 6 year old the keys to his car & told him to go pick up milk and the kid crashed & DIED, you would not be sitting here saying there's a problem with CARS

would u?

course not, you'd say its the MISUSE of cars & irresponsibility in general

correct? of course, i usually am
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KunterLuvsKiddiePorn wrote:
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There is not god unless you can prove otherwise. I'll wait.
There is no such thing as a "real" christian, either. There are just a lot of self righteous dolts convinced that THEY are the "only" REAL christian.
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This is what the fairy tale teaches. Doesn't make it REAL.
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Wait a minute. YOU are one of those claiming this young man, a "child of god", most likely a "christian", was sick. Therefore, he is not responsible for his behavior. He does not have the capacity to know what he did was wrong. Your jesus says ALL sins are forgiven if you ask for forgiveness. He also says those that are sick and poor should be given special care.
So by your claim above you show that you do not accept what your jesus says to be true. So YOU must not be a "real christian".
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Of course. That is what the bible says. Haven't you read it?
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wtf does that matter? Court has nothing to do with what your fairy tales says.
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You are simply ignorant to make such an assumption. I know MORE about your myth than YOU do and if you continue this nonsense I will educate you, and you are NOT going to like it.
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What you used to think or what you think now is simply unimportant. Just like when you were a kid you believed in Santa Clause and now you know he isn't real.
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No, actually I have not noticed that. In fact the majority of my friends here DO support my position on guns. Most of my friends in REAL LIFE support my position. MOST of the people in the UNITED STATES support my position. Especially in NEWTOWN and CT, you mindless idiot.
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No
No and
No.
Your ignorant OPINION does not equal FACT. Kinda like your myth belief does not create an actual guy in the sky.
Yes I figuered you were raised in some kind of church, but probably not a christian church.

Again -many people claim to be christian, but don't mean they are.
Same goes for churches, and what they teach.

The bible does say in places like 1 John 1: 8-9
About if "we " confess our sins -He is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and to cleanze us from all unrightousness.

The "we " is not you.
the entire book of 1 John is written to saved people
Not church members, or those who say they are christian, but real christians.

You may educate me all you wish, if it is true, I'll thank you.

Plus the guy that killed those kids was sick, but sin sick.
He had enough sense to do all he did.
He is not guiltless, but right now he sure is wishing you're right about God.
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Doc Degall wrote:
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What are you laughing at ? There's nothing even mildly amusing here. Are you some kinda mental patient ?
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I stand corrected. You didn't "imply". When you claimed he said that "gunmen don't f**k with police stations" you were outright SAYING that he claimed they NEVER did.
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I know you can. And you DID. He never claimed any such thing. Don't forget I recall the discussion. I was involved in it. He claimed it was a deterrent.....and it is.
You don't get to to cite one example of one coward who fires anonymously into a police station under the cloak of darkness - a coward who likely would not have had the balls to confront the police face to face in broad daylight - as evidence that police carrying guns is not a deterrent. It doesn't work that way. Do security guards or Brinks truck guards....or National Guard troops who patrolled NYC subways after 9/11 with outwardly held automatic weapons doing so just so they could shoot/kill any potential thief or terrorist ? Or did their outward display of firepower also intend to discourage those who might otherwise consider breaking law if they were not carrying them ? No need to answer as the question is rhetorical and the answer is obvious.
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Don't misconstrue. I don't necessarily believe that citizens having guns will reduce crime. But at the same time you don't get to make blatantly wrong statements....or think that citing an example of one cowardly nutjob proves that police having guns does not provide a deterrent.
THANK YOU! finally someone sees my clear & basic logic

i dont get it....does she think that cops & security guards DONT deter any crime?

in fact, we need to ask her this question, since trucks get knocked off sometimes, why do they have guards with guns? are they there to LOOK GOOD? or do they deter theft?

also, if stores with security guards dont deter crime, WHY do we have them???
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"yes there were guns in Christs time, STOOPID"
Excuse me?
you heard me
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You said Jesus was safe from "lethal" harm. There's nothing more lethal than being crucified. Your statement was moronic. Clearly he was NOT safe from "lethal" harm.
You have not asked me previously what I want to do about the gun violence problem and therefore I could not have evaded a question you did not ask.
I have repeatedly explained my position in relation to your other rants.
I don't know what to do, but just as you think less guns is not a solution I don't think more guns is either.
no, lady, he WAS safe from lethal harm untill he gave himself up FOR crucifixion, as part of the plan.......how do you not know this?

okay, so you DONT know what to do but NOT for banning guns.....im confused.......WHY in the world would you want people to exercise their rights to own guns?
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yes, b/c he was SUPPOSED to be crucified, that was half the point of Christianity, DUH!
you have NOT repeatedly explained a thing, i asked what you want, what do you want do about the gun violence problem?
Are you saying Jesus' crucifixion was preordained? The final sacrifice to end all sacrifices because some were against sacrificing live animals and/or people? And for this, he was made mankind's savior, to save mankind from his own sin? Well, if mankind has faith and believes...

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Automobiles aren't made to kill; guns are.
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<quoted text>at least you seem to acknowledge that we should HAVE those rights
"What if while cleaning a gun it accidentally went off?" --- thats why gun owners shouldnt be IDIOTS & lazy.....it's not hard to clear a gun of ammo, in fact if you own, say, a glock it literally takes maybe 2-3 seconds
but the point is you should have worried FAR FAR more about the dozens of cars that zoomed by you while you were walking down the street, drivers putting on makeup, texting, calling, talking, radio changing, eating chinese food, etc..........not to mention drivers on the road while YOURE driving..........but your main concern was MAYBE the gun would go off & MAYBE it would go thru the cieling & HAPPEN to hit you?
i dont get it...

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I asked how you knew for certain. "Gee I don't know..." doesn't quite measure up.
Do you want to try again or do you want to just flip over all your cards now and admit you don't know for certain?
Fukwit, I know 100% that you're some shmuck who only THINKS its intelligent, and likes to troll messageboards.

You're not g-d, but you COULD have dyslexia and be Dog.

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For the two percent of pregnancies terminated during this time frame, you PLM sure make it sound like it is a common occurrence.
Whether it's one or one million is irrelevant. We're talking about principle here genius...not numbers. You were asked why you opposed abortion at that late stage when in fact you believed it was not a person. If you were to remain consistent in your argument and your logic that the fetus being part of the woman and securing its nourishment from her remains the primary reason why she should be able to decide to terminate, then you would NOT oppose abortion at this stage. Yet you remain totally INCONSISTENT in your logic and instead cite viability as the reason you oppose it. You don't know whether you are coming or going. You mean well. You're just not terribly bright.
And if you weren't able to follow along, dude was asking about terminations a day or two before the due date. That's not legal due to the concept of viability.
You have a tendency to assume ( and always incorrectly ) that I don't follow the point. I know exactly what the dude( dude?) was asking. And he wasn't asking about the LEGALITY. He was asking why you or anyone else would oppose it at that stage when you obviously did not consider it a person. By citing the LEGALITY, which was never the DUDE'S point, you actually demonstrate that it is YOU that doesn't follow along well.
That's my point. Your post above has little to do with the topic being discussed. You tried hard to get an unnecessary dig in, though. Good on you, Doc. Keep your true colors bright and shiny.
My post has EVERYTHING to do with the topic being discussed.
The DUDE didn't ask why abortions at that stage were illegal. He asked why you would oppose them. You cited viability. My post was TOTALLY relevant.

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