Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Nme another situation in which you are forced to support someone you do not agree to take responsibility for. Or another situation in which you are forced to provide blood or any other bodily function against your will.
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cpeter: Name another situation in which you are forced to support someone you do not agree to take responsibility for.

Pregnancy is how mankind was created to procreate. I'm sure your mother taught you this - God rest her soul.
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War. Collateral damage. Too bad, so sad, right?
They were inconveniently located, may they rest in peace.
'Collateral damage' is unintended. You & your proabort friends intend to kill the preborn babies. They are your target.

"[The preborn] are inconvenient" phrase again. Thanks for your real-time example.
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War. Collateral damage. Too bad, so sad, right?
They were inconveniently located, may they rest in peace.
collateral damage is not intentional. nice try but.....

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http://www.webmd.com/baby/tc/m olar-pregnancy-topic-overview
A molar pregnancy is a pregnancy; the woman is treatedlike any other pregnant woman with a problematic pregnancy.
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molar "pregnancy" is terminology used only because symptoms mimic pregnancy. just like "false pregnancy". in both cases woman is not really pregnant. your own link states that molar pregnancy only exhibits the symptoms but is not a "normal pregnancy".

read your own link stupid.
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Katie: "[Abortion is] self-defense. It is inconvenient when intruders invade your property."
When did the preborn baby intrude? S/he did not break into the womb. S/he was created there...right where s/he was suppposed as dictated by how mankind was created.
All you have to lean on in support of executing innocents is dehumanizing human beings. You try to rewrite mankind, but fail each and every time.
What are you talking about? Is that your perspective, nosy parker?

You asked this question, "Name one other situation where it is okay to intentionally kill another human being because they are an inconvenience."

I answered it. Now you've veered off to some other discussion and you forgot to use your blinker.
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Civil Rights condones executing a helpless & innocent human because he/she is deemed an inconvenience?
Name one other situation where it is okay to intentionally kill another human being because they are an inconvenience.
Ready....go.........
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
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<quoted text>I'm not wrong. you said "all accepted definitions of 'pregnant' specify "developing" and that is not true. Your link has a disclaimer did you read it?
DISCLAIMER
All content on this website, including dictionary, thesaurus, literature, geography, and other reference data is for informational purposes only. This information should not be considered complete, up to date, and is not intended to be used in place of a visit, consultation, or advice of a legal, medical, or any other professional.
a disclaimer which is there only because it's a medical dictionary and they don't want to be responsible for morons self diagnosing or self medicating based on info there,not because of definitions of basic terms like pregnancy.
does merriam-webster contain the same disclaimer? stupid.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/pregna...
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In accounting code, there are sets of numbers attached to create a long string of numbers that actually tell a story to those who know how to read 'em. I am thinking medical coding is similar.
So in this instance, from the link and info you supplied (in vain attempts to prove PC wrong), it was shown that 634 is used to mean spontaneous abortion. Codes 770 and 779 are used to show if D&C was used following the abortion. Hence, you'd attach 634 to the pertinent number to indicate if D&C was done or not. It might look like this -- 634770 or 634-770 -- OR it might look like this -- 634779 or 634-779. I'm not a medical coder, but I've spent plenty of time learning accounting code, NR, and I don't think these are dissimilar coding systems.
What you are correct about is that the chart is CLEAR re purpose for a D&C procedure.

634 Spontaneous abortion (non-elective)
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/630-679/ ...
635 Legally induced abortion (elective)
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/630-679/ ...
636 Illegally induced abortion (elective)
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/630-679/ ...

In the case of Medicares' DRG groups, the M.D. MUST additionally specify if induced abortion is related to pregancy that is a threat to the mother's life, or was result of rape/incest (or it won't be reimbursed).

"Abortion is abortion is abortion" & "D&C is a D&C is a D&C" is not intellectually honest. The chart clearly describes the differences. Which is basically what you are saying, Katie.
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molar "pregnancy" is terminology used only because symptoms mimic pregnancy. just like "false pregnancy". in both cases woman is not really pregnant. your own link states that molar pregnancy only exhibits the symptoms but is not a "normal pregnancy".
read your own link stupid.
(He thinks packing fudge is normal. So...)
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Katie: "[Abortion is] self-defense. It is inconvenient when intruders invade your property."
When did the preborn baby intrude? S/he did not break into the womb. S/he was created there...right where s/he was suppposed as dictated by how mankind was created.
All you have to lean on in support of executing innocents is dehumanizing human beings. You try to rewrite mankind, but fail each and every time.
Pregnancy is an intrusion. The woman's immune system treats it as such. If the woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she has the civil right to bodily autonomy to deal with it legally and safely within the first 12wks of pregnancy without others intruding on her civil right of personal privacy. You need to get over your dramatic self and deal with it.

But thanks for proving my point when I said this, "My understanding is a lot of them believe civil rights should be suspended during pregnancy, given over (naturally) to the ZEF by the woman because it's her physiological function to gestate. And if she has sex, she took that risk and should live with the consequences. Some go so far as to say even if that means death."
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What are you talking about? Is that your perspective, nosy parker?
You asked this question, "Name one other situation where it is okay to intentionally kill another human being because they are an inconvenience."
I answered it. Now you've veered off to some other discussion and you forgot to use your blinker.
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http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
An intruder into your home is not innocent; s/he is breaking the law.
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What you are correct about is that the chart is CLEAR re purpose for a D&C procedure.
634 Spontaneous abortion (non-elective)
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/630-679/ ...
635 Legally induced abortion (elective)
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/630-679/ ...
636 Illegally induced abortion (elective)
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/630-679/ ...
In the case of Medicares' DRG groups, the M.D. MUST additionally specify if induced abortion is related to pregancy that is a threat to the mother's life, or was result of rape/incest (or it won't be reimbursed).
"Abortion is abortion is abortion" & "D&C is a D&C is a D&C" is not intellectually honest. The chart clearly describes the differences. Which is basically what you are saying, Katie.
What I did was show an example of how coding works with what I know from accounting code. I did that for your thick skulled benefit because you were trying to make something out of nothing. Just like you are doing now.

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collateral damage is not intentional. nice try but.....
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Abortion terminates a pregnancy. Cold, but true nonetheless.
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Glad you're feeling better, btw, Bit. I hate not being able to breathe thru my nose.
you can't possibly possess any male genitalia
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(He thinks packing fudge is normal. So...)
Homosexuality is normal. You are so into "natural law" except for the areas you don't like or approve of. Hell, some species can impregnate themselves or purposely abort in dangerous situations. You'd deny this benefit to women, though, even though it, too, is perfectly natural, normal.

What isn't normal, imo, is your eagerness to deprive women of their civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy, to self-determination. It isn't normal to expect everyone else to live by the world according to NR.
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Katie wrote:
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Pregnancy is an intrusion. The woman's immune system treats it as such. If the woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she has the civil right to bodily autonomy to deal with it legally and safely within the first 12wks of pregnancy without others intruding on her civil right of personal privacy. You need to get over your dramatic self and deal with it.
But thanks for proving my point when I said this, "My understanding is a lot of them believe civil rights should be suspended during pregnancy, given over (naturally) to the ZEF by the woman because it's her physiological function to gestate. And if she has sex, she took that risk and should live with the consequences. Some go so far as to say even if that means death."
You continue to fail in redefining the normal process by which mankind was created to procreate. You only make a moron out of yourself when clumsily trying to morph a normal part of mankind into a disease.

The preborn baby has not "intruded" (this presupposes he/she come from outside in). Baby s/he was created RIGHT where s/he was supposed to be created...doing EXACTLY what s/he is supposed to be doing.

You even wrongly attempt to classify mankind's normal process of pregnancy a 'civil rights violation'.

You're a mess.
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Homosexuality is normal. You are so into "natural law" except for the areas you don't like or approve of. Hell, some species can impregnate themselves or purposely abort in dangerous situations. You'd deny this benefit to women, though, even though it, too, is perfectly natural, normal.
What isn't normal, imo, is your eagerness to deprive women of their civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy, to self-determination. It isn't normal to expect everyone else to live by the world according to NR.
Katie: You are so into "natural law" except for the areas you don't like or approve of. Hell, some species can impregnate themselves or purposely abort in dangerous situations. You'd deny this benefit to women, though, even though it, too, is perfectly natural, normal.

Pregnancy is how mankind was created to procreate. It is normal & natural. You desperately (and ineffectually) try to change how mankind was created to procreate. You even liken mankind to animals that self-impregnate or "purposely abort in dangerous situations."

And.

You failed.

Again.
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Katie: What isn't normal, imo, is your eagerness to deprive women of their civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy, to self-determination. It isn't normal to expect everyone else to live by the world according to NR.

Natural law is for all of us. Intentionally killing another innocent human being is a violation of natural law..and against mankind itself.

2,000 baby females are being brutally executed today. You're nothing but a fake feminist. That said, save your 'pregnancy as violation of female bodily autonomy' and 'self-determination as excuse for murder' diatribes. They make you look like an incompetent buffoon.
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Abortion terminates a pregnancy. Cold, but true nonetheless.
and collateral damage during war is not intentional killing for inconvenience.

your analogy sucked. too bad so sad. right?
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What I did was show an example of how coding works with what I know from accounting code. I did that for your thick skulled benefit because you were trying to make something out of nothing. Just like you are doing now.
Happy Monday.
What you did was to reinforce my argument....for which I am grateful.

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1) Not necessarily, and not in all states.

2) Murder has various degrees, but all have the same thing in common--they are illegal BY DEFINITION. Abortion is not illegal. Moreover, even when abortion was illegal, it was not classified as murder or homicide; it was a violation of medical codes.
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1. It's already illegal for a pregnant mother to perform abortion by herself.
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2. As you know, not all murders are prosecuted the same. Not all murders have the same standard punishment guidelines for the perpetrators. The only reason you are trying to 'change the rules' in this situation is to obfuscate your futile attempt to devalue prolifers' credibility.
As is typically the case w/ you: Epic Failure.
Again.
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