Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

[letsyakalot]

Bitner wrote:

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A friend of mine couldn't get any doctor within driving distance to do a tubal ligation for her, even though she was 33, already had two children, smoked like a chimney, and had a family history of all kinds of cancer. One doctor actually asked her "What if one of your children were to die".
The only reason I was able to get one at 30 was because I was already having my third C-Section, and there would be no way I could ever have a vaginal delivery.
It's ridiculous.

You are wrong , Bitler I doubt you work with pregnant women after reading this. http://www.emedicinehealth.com/vaginal_birth_...

[AyakaNeo]

Bitner wrote:

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A friend of mine couldn't get any doctor within driving distance to do a tubal ligation for her, even though she was 33, already had two children, smoked like a chimney, and had a family history of all kinds of cancer. One doctor actually asked her "What if one of your children were to die".
The only reason I was able to get one at 30 was because I was already having my third C-Section, and there would be no way I could ever have a vaginal delivery.
It's ridiculous.

I agree Bitner. Last time I went to my primary care was just about two weeks ago. I go every month to get my INR done in the lab then he will follow up if the level is not where he wants it. It was then he suggested I get a hysterectomy, but pregnancy wasn't his primary reason for suggesting it. It was blood flow. If pregnancy had been, my husband was sitting right there with me, tell him to get vasectomy because I've asked him several times to think about it. It's total bs.

[realkatie]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

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Actually a citizen of Zanzibar while being protected by our Constitution ONLY to a degree, is more likely to have their rights potentally abused UNDER our constitution. Guantanamo ring a bell?
Technically, the Constitution is about government, not the poeple, citizens or not. It tells the government what it can and can't do (the body of the Constitution tells the government what it can do, and the Bill of Rights tells it what it can't do). FOr example, the government cannot completely remove the right of aliens to keep and bear arms, have freedom of expression, etc, but it can greatly restrict those rights almost to the point where they are non-existent, in a way they can't easily do to citizens. Then there are the Constituional rights that are clearly reserved only for citizens—such as the right to vote or to hold elective office.
Another good example is in the Fourteenth Amendment, which makes it VERY clear that the rights in that are for CITIZENS. For example: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges and immunities of CITIZENS of the United States."

And, Foo, isn't it true in order for one to be a CITIZEN one needs to be born?

[Bitner]

letsyakalot wrote:

<quoted text> You are wrong , Bitler I doubt you work with pregnant women after reading this. http://www.emedicinehealth.com/vaginal_birth_...

I never said that VBAC is not possible. I said it wasn't possible for ME. And it was not.

You're full of shit. Go pound sand.

[Bitner]

realkatie wrote:

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And, Foo, isn't it true in order for one to be a CITIZEN one needs to be born?

Well, I'm not Foo, but yes, it is true. What's ALSO true is that in order to have any rights under our Constitution, foreign nationals must ALSO be born. These people like to forget that fact. It's inconvenient for them.

[sassylicious]

AyakaNeo wrote:

<quoted text>Well I do know this, the % of abortions at 24 weeks in this day and age is going to be low @ about 1% or 10,000, botched or not. Can you explain why restrictions cause the abortion statistics to rise? Since 1973 they just keep going up and up.

So 10,000 human lives being killed at 24 weeks of life is "not many" OR "low" in your opinion?

Guess what? ONE life killed via abortion is ONE TOO MANY.

"""Can you explain why restrictions cause the abortion statistics to rise? Since 1973 they just keep going up and up""""

According to your proabort friends here,abortions are declining in numbers. Here you are saying they "just keep going up and up". Interesting.

Over a MILLION humans lives in this country alone,EACH YEAR(4,000 daily)are being aborted. MANY women have repeated abortions(2,3,4,5,etc)because it is available. They become desensitized to killing their unwanted children. Abortion is birth control to most women who abort. They can seek pleasure,and ...well...abort if they become pregnant.

OFF to the same behavior because they don't have consequences apparently :/

;) SO they THINK.

[sassylicious]

AyakaNeo wrote:

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Logically, wouldn't Lynne still be here if she "made these people bonkers"?
<quoted text>Anyone, or just two? I'm pretty sure it was just two.
<quoted text>Then where's Lynne? She abort her mission?

Why would she need to be here to confirm that she made them bonkers?

Many prolifers get tired of the ignorance on here. Our mission of voicing our defense for the unborn is not limited to on an anonymous forum. In fact,this is merely used as an opportunity during a work week when we may have internet work. That's why you don't see most prolifers on these forums on the weekends. We enjoy our weekends with our families.

[sassylicious]

Kenose wrote:

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You're a ridiculous control freak.
Thankfully, we're not bound by your absurd opinions.

Gee Kenose,I thought that you wanted to try to be civil and respectful(even offering me a nice day)and all.

LOL you can't help yourself,can you?

Anyway,I made a statement that I believe is true. With that statement,comes positive results which include NO std's,NO unplanned pregnancies,NO abortions,NO single parenting after the daddy abandones his booty call,NO women getting used for sex,....

The way God planned it :)

Sorry that you feel threatened by that. Not sure how I am "controlling" anyone by offering sound,moral,sane advice.

Have a great day!

[Bitner]

sassylicious wrote:

<quoted text>So 10,000 human lives being killed at 24 weeks of life is "not many" OR "low" in your opinion?
Guess what? ONE life killed via abortion is ONE TOO MANY.
"""Can you explain why restrictions cause the abortion statistics to rise? Since 1973 they just keep going up and up""""
According to your proabort friends here,abortions are declining in numbers. Here you are saying they "just keep going up and up". Interesting.
Over a MILLION humans lives in this country alone,EACH YEAR(4,000 daily)are being aborted. MANY women have repeated abortions(2,3,4,5,etc)because it is available. They become desensitized to killing their unwanted children. Abortion is birth control to most women who abort. They can seek pleasure,and ...well...abort if they become pregnant.
OFF to the same behavior because they don't have consequences apparently :/
;) SO they THINK.

If you don't feel 1% is "low", then you won't be complaining when someone brings up the 7% that occur due to rape, incest and life/health of the woman as being to few to consider, right?

[sassylicious]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

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ROFLMAO Lynne didn't 'intimidate' ANYONE tho she wished that were so. If she intimidated anyone SKanky, she, like you, would actually have people at least PRETENDING to respect anything you have to say, instead of being among the biggest jokes of the forums.
I think its funny as hell how many hoops you freaks have to jump through to pretend ANYONE here feels anything stronger than revulsion for either of you.

I disagree. Lynne STILL has you foaming at the mouth. I read it EVERY day here fooL. Majority of your posts are directed at her and about her. You can think that Lily is Lynne ALL you want(your choice)but people on here reading your posts KNOW that she has struck a nerve with you that after ALL these years,ONE SINGLE poster can rile up a bunch of anonymous posters.

"""pretend ANYONE here feels anything stronger than revulsion for either of you""""

I came here to defend,voice my concern for the unborn,not win a popularity contest. I have an awesome husband,children,extended family,friends and therefore,I am not seeking attention or acceptance here. I feel sorry for you that you seek validation,respect and acceptance from online strangers.

Sad. I feel bad for you actually.

[sassylicious]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

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A) "lily" IS the same poster as Lynne D. YOU aren't fooling anyone any more than she has.
B) She makes herself a target, just as you do, for the disrespect and abuse you two clearly crave.
Neither of you are here for honest debate. She's here because she is at least in part, mentally ill, and cant stand to have anyone else have the last word. YOU are no better than the average troll.

1. whatever floats your boat.

2. Neither of us CLEARLY is seeking acceptance from online strangers. Again,I am here to be the voice for the unborn. Not looking for anything from you or anyone. I say it as I see it. I offer sound advice. I offer tangible help in person. Can't go wrong there ;)

I am not here to "debate" killing a humans life while temporarily in the womb. I don't compromise SOMEONE elses life. You OTOH,are here to advocate killing as choice.

SHAME on you! You're a coward. How about actually HELPING those poor,vulnerable girls have a choice that involves her not killing her child? NOPE. NOT *your*problem,right?

[Doc Degall]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

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Actually a citizen of Zanzibar while being protected by our Constitution

Vladdy said they were not. THAT was my point. You and I do not disagree.
I bet he's proud to let a woman come to his defense while he cowers in the background. What a slug.

ONLY to a degree, is more likely to have their rights potentally abused UNDER our constitution. Guantanamo ring a bell?
Technically, the Constitution is about government, not the poeple, citizens or not. It tells the government what it can and can't do (the body of the Constitution tells the government what it can do, and the Bill of Rights tells it what it can't do). FOr example, the government cannot completely remove the right of aliens to keep and bear arms, have freedom of expression, etc, but it can greatly restrict those rights almost to the point where they are non-existent, in a way they can't easily do to citizens. Then there are the Constituional rights that are clearly reserved only for citizens—such as the right to vote or to hold elective office.
Another good example is in the Fourteenth Amendment, which makes it VERY clear that the rights in that are for CITIZENS. For example: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges and immunities of CITIZENS of the United States."

The very next line in the 14th Amendment reads : "NOR shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

There is a clear distinction made between citizens and ANY person within the US jursidiction. Vaddy said the Constitution does not cover natives of Zanzibar. Vladdy was wrong.

[sassylicious]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

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No Skanky, what's NOT "normal" is someone coming to a place where they have ZERO respect from anyone, and lying about who they are and their history here for YEARS on end.
Its also not "normal" to take up for that kind of bullshit.

You're not normal. You act like a raging lunatic. Your foul mouthed,disrespectful,intolera nt of others religions INCLUDING your so called gf and daughter,etc..etc..

Now,...what where YOU saying about anothers?

Thought so.

Abortion is the discussion,not what YOU think of another anonymous poster.

When WILL you keep that in mind?

[sassylicious]

AyakaNeo wrote:

<quoted text>Perhaps Kenose if we outlawed marriage and had a one child policy the abortion rate would go down since 60% are women married and women already with children. But seeing how a one child policy doesn't deter the Chinese from having sex..........how absurd to expect human beings not to have sex, married or not lol.

Nobody is saying that human beings shouldn't have sex. We do teach our young ones to abstain,don't we? Are THEY not sexual beings? Of course they are but sex outside certain boundaries creates disasterous situations.

What about a man who goes on many business trips every month? Suppose he gets those sexual urges that are normal? What's he to do? Go cheat on his wife because "it's absurd to expect human beings not to have sex"?

Didn't know that self-control wasn't in your vocabulary.

[sassylicious]

elise in burque wrote:

<quoted text>No kidding! I had no desire to ever marry again, after my divorce 25 years ago. SassyJM actually thinks that she have been the ensures of my sex life. Ridiculous! There's this thing called birth control...

"""There's this thing called birth control"""

Over a MILLION abortions each year. Count in those unplanned pregnancies that are kept alive and raised by single moms while dad runs off......

Sounds to me like you people don't know what "this thing called birth control" is.

You had an abortion. NUFF said.

[sassylicious]

Ray wrote:

Men should start looking down on women who are "pro-choice". If "pro-choicers" aren't getting pregnant the "pro-choicers" can't murder unborn babies.

I agree. I tell my sons that they simply can't fall into temptation with a proabort or they will have their child killed by abortion.

It's NO joke. There is no room for error in THAT department. His offpsring might get killed as a consequence to his one moment of pleasure.

[sassylicious]

elise in burque wrote:

<quoted text>Just as many men as women are prochoice.

I'm SURE they are. It's no secret that many men(I use that term man loosely)like to use women for sex (showing ZERO respect for her or her body),then dump her when she gets pregnant(DUMPING his responsibility as a father).

Abortion fits in JUST fine for those type of *cough* men. The rest,just bail and become dead beat dads.

Isn't choice WONDERFUL?

You women are so freakin naive it's scary.

[sassylicious]

AyakaNeo wrote:

<quoted text>Men should start demanding a condom be worn or "she ain't gettin none".

Are you insinuating that women are dumb now?

She wants "some" but is too stupid to care about getting pregnant?

Oh yeah,that's right,over a MILLION abortions every year.

I see your point. I guess the men should step up and "demand a condom be worn or she aint gettin none".

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[sassylicious]

-Michelle- wrote:

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Not to mention that just because a woman is pro-choice does not mean she'd automatically have an abortion if she were pregnant. I'm pro-choice and I didn't consider having an abortion when I was pregnant and I wouldn't choose abortion if I became pregnant again.

Abortion is not "okay" with you but you support another woman killing her child. OBVIOUSLY you wouldn't kill yours for a reason,yet you have no problem with another child being aborted.

You're the worst of the worst. NO backbone. NO principles.

[sassylicious]

Ink wrote:

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Why not?

Exactly. Why wouldn't these proaborts abort their own? What's so wrong with abortion that they would make such a statement that they would NOT abort?.

Don't expect a direct answer. I hope that "because that's what I feel" is sufficent enough for you because THAT is the only answer you will receive.