Wantagh slashes $1.5M from budget, drops teams, clubs

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As local parents rallied to save student activities, Wantagh's school board Thursday night moved toward slashing $1.5 million from its budget in "austerity" cuts that would eliminate dozens of sports teams, ... Full Story
mrbs1971

Bronx, NY

#85 Jun 27, 2008
You Dopes wrote:
Good work Wantagh! I was looking at buying a house there. Now I'm not! Hope it's worth the 200 bucks you'll save on your taxes.
By the way, all you complainers are just jealous that you didn't go into teaching. I make 90,000 grand and at 10 am today, I start a 2 month vacation!
Who needs you! We have enough dummies here already!
Eric

United States

#86 Jun 27, 2008
People NEVER learn wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me which public school teachers are making 80K and over!!!!!!!!!
Please show me!!!!!!!!!!
And if you are only making 50K after 25 years maybe it is YOU and the JOB you do that is the reason.
I'll show you...A friend of mine who works for Sachem school district and has been teaching for just under 5 years. She obtained her Masters (which is easier than getting a Bachelors, by the way), and makes $83,000/year. Sufficient enough? Don't tell me it doesn't happen, because I'll tell you firsthand it does.

And as for your proud liberal affiliation, good for you. You're welcome to have your own political opinions...but stop using our kids as a captive audience to your BULLSHlT political views! Unless you teach a political science class, keep it to yourself. And even if you do, for god's sake...be objective!
THE FRITO BANDITO

Patchogue, NY

#87 Jun 27, 2008
Love the crazys wrote:
Let's get this straight.
I have been teaching for 7 years now. In order to teach in New York State you have to have a Bachelors and Masters Degree. Have you looked at the prices of colleges recently? Many of my collegues have $70,000+ in student loans. There is a high cost to be a teacher.
You said teachers make $50,000 a year starting salary. Trying getting a mortgage at 50,000 a year or marrying anther teacher and getting a mortgage at a $100,000. I can't afford to buy a home in the working class town I teach in. You said teachers make 6 figure salaries. Yes many do after 17+ years of service and 75 additional credits beyond a masters degree. So it will take someone 17 years worth of work before they reach top salary (IT TAKES ONLY 5 YEARS FOR POLICE.) That saves districts a lot of money in the mean time.
I'm a teacher but I'M NOT COMPLAINING. You said I have 8 weeks of summer vacation. I DON'T. Half of my summer will be spent taking more classes (I already have my masters) and the other half will be spent working. Yes working. I know you think teachers make so much money but we live on Long Island too and pay the same bills. I have 3 OTHER JOBS besides teaching fulltime. Again, I'm not complaing. My father worked 2 jobs supporting his family. And now I'm working 4 trying to support mine.
Finally you said you get a 2% raise a year. If that is true you need to quit your job or ask for a raise. CPI (consumer price index) for the tristate are is around 3%.(not including oil and gas). That means you are comparitively making less money each year. You, like all workers, deserve fair raises and wages to support you and your family.
Perhaps you should move to the Shorehame district. Heard the Supt. just got a 12% raise, now over 200K, and will get 6% for the next four years. Wonder what her bennies are: free phone?, gas card?, slush fund?.Not a bad deal if you can get it. Haven't heard what the teachers are getting. Just a rumor I heard. Can anyone verify it? Maybe the state should take a look at all the districts. All this corruption starts at the top, both parties, and us little guys don't do a darn thing about it. It's time to organize and start fighting them. That money that Wantagh collected; maybe they should hire a good attorney and start a class action suit against the teachers & supts. for incompetence and willful neglect. Hey I'm ony a little guy that just struggling along.
Pliny

Milford, CT

#88 Jun 27, 2008
You Dopes wrote:
Good work Wantagh! I was looking at buying a house there. Now I'm not! Hope it's worth the 200 bucks you'll save on your taxes.

By the way, all you complainers are just jealous that you didn't go into teaching. I make 90,000 grand and at 10 am today, I start a 2 month vacation!
*
Hey everyone. Do a little public service. Take a copy of the above post and send it to your state representatives (both Assembly and Senate) at their district offices.

I've got mine going in the mail this morning -- with some commentary.
Bossy

Bronx, NY

#89 Jun 27, 2008
Teachers are scum.
Make way to much money and look at the wonderful job they do, hahaha. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Bunch of leeches.
Think they know everything , then get insulted when told the truth. Go to your happy hours, shitbaggs.
Randy

AOL

#90 Jun 27, 2008
This just proves what total s bags these school officals are. how about cutting salaries and benifits for the do nothing teachers and even worse the overpaid administrators who are mostly cronied up with the local politicans.
Matt

New York, NY

#91 Jun 27, 2008
Love the crazys wrote:
So you want the teachers, who make a hell of a lot less than the superintendant, to sacrifice their own salaries that they use to support their own families, to help the athletic program of a school because the majority of the voters of the town voted against the budget.
Lets get real teachers!! Yes we can agree that teachers work hard. That being said how about some give backs like paying for your medical ins, also remember teachers your off more than you are actully in the class room. teachers are paid a full time salary with benefits and only work part time. Teacher why dont you get a real job !!!!
Anonymous

United States

#92 Jun 27, 2008
Most of the money in the budget goes towards high officials salaries (the board of ed..etc...). If we didn't pay them so much money to do nothing but spend and abuse the budget, the kids wouldn't have to suffer. How much do we pay in taxes?? Where is that money going? Obviously not to the schools.
Anonymous

United States

#93 Jun 27, 2008
School districts are getting strict audits by third party cpa firms. (not friends of the schools or school officials). I'm sure we'll be seeing where the corruption is soon enough.
Common Sense

Apex, NC

#94 Jun 27, 2008
Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
You got to be kidding me. It is the teachers fault now. They are giving your kids an education and for you to be giving them a hard time!!! they works their butts off and they spend a ton of money on education...get a load on yourself. This is the fault of the tax payers. Not that they are wrong but please support me on this borad the teachers have no fault here!!!
If the teachers union did not ask for an arm and a leg then money would be available. Long Island may be an expensive place to live, but that should not be the excuse for salaries that clearly are excessive. In addition the teachers are aware of administrators that basically do nothing for their pay. If all the dead wood was removed the budgets would be affordable.
Greed

Eastchester, NY

#95 Jun 27, 2008
So the residents of the Wantagh District voted down the budget. So be it. The students have to sacrafice sports/activities/spec ed programs. What are the administrators and the teachers sacraficing? Nothing. Sorry guys, I guess there will be no Cuban Cigars in the budget for you this year. As for the kids, I guess they will be snorting more heroing since theres nothing else to do.
Tired Old Man

AOL

#96 Jun 27, 2008
School boards cut sports and clubs not teachers, they get paid extra to be involved in after school activities. Stop the teacher bashing. Teaching is an economic decision like any other it is made for the money, benefits and retirement. Like any other job they want to be paid as much as possible. Don't you? Stop the myth of teachers having a calling it is a job. Like any other union theirs can give you a thousand reasons why they should be paid more. School boards like the people being mad at the teachers it covers their inetpness. You could save 1.5M just by cleaning up school board waste.
Watching Closely

Brooklyn, NY

#97 Jun 27, 2008
As a Wantagh parent of a high school student and spouse of a Wantagh teacher, I have watched this situation very closely. Once again, the shortsightedness of the residents of Wantagh has reared its ugly head.
A year or 2 ago, Wantagh attempted to pass several bond issues, one of which was for athletic facilities improvements. It failed at the 1st vote. The board made some changes and on re-vote, the bond passed.
This year, interest payments are beginning on the bonds.(DUH - you have to re-pay the loan.) The interest payments were a big part of the percentage increase in the failed budget. In addition, this year's budget also included some of the amenities that were deleted from the previous bond, like lockers for new locker room. So now, Wantagh will have nice new artificial turf fields and new locker rooms, but no lockers or teams to use the facilities.
Just when I thought I've seen everything in the past 21 years I've lived in Wantagh, the residents prove me wrong.
ENGLISH 101

Columbia, SC

#98 Jun 27, 2008
momma wrote:
Did the teachers give back anything??.... Of course not... they say they are here for the children but unlike other civil servants they never give up any perks or freeze salaries; they rather the kids do without. I used to be very active in the PTA until I realized who's interest was prime and it is not the school children.... Just look at all the corruption in the districts that should say something...
Oh, Momma ... and all of you other teacher-bashers. Teachers aren't the issue here. The purpose of a SCHOOL district is to provide an EDUCATION. That is what the TEACHERS do. A school district's reason for being is NOT TO PROVIDE A CHANCE FOR A FREE COLLEGE EDUCATION FOR ONE WHO PLAYS SPORTS!!!!!! Also, teachers have not been players in high-cost district corruption. That would be administration. Maybe once a teacher gave you detention or expected you to do homework assignments or gave you a test on which you scored a low grade because you failed to study. GET OVER IT!!! Teachers making high five figure salaries have been in the classroom for 25 years. That's a lifetime of dedication. They deserve it. It's easy to blame teachers for students who fail. Let's put the blame where it belongs ... on the student who would rather do ANYTHING but apply him/herself.
mrbs1971

Bronx, NY

#99 Jun 27, 2008
Watching Closely wrote:
As a Wantagh parent of a high school student and spouse of a Wantagh teacher, I have watched this situation very closely. Once again, the shortsightedness of the residents of Wantagh has reared its ugly head.
A year or 2 ago, Wantagh attempted to pass several bond issues, one of which was for athletic facilities improvements. It failed at the 1st vote. The board made some changes and on re-vote, the bond passed.
This year, interest payments are beginning on the bonds.(DUH - you have to re-pay the loan.) The interest payments were a big part of the percentage increase in the failed budget. In addition, this year's budget also included some of the amenities that were deleted from the previous bond, like lockers for new locker room. So now, Wantagh will have nice new artificial turf fields and new locker rooms, but no lockers or teams to use the facilities.
Just when I thought I've seen everything in the past 21 years I've lived in Wantagh, the residents prove me wrong.
Whose fault is that? How is it the residents' fault?

As a business owner, I look ahead and try to predict any money issues based on the economy. Had the school board realized the budget might actually fail, maybe they would have/could have planned better.

Nothing in life is a definite - except death and of course taxes. People need to start realizing nothing is set in stone and people started planning for setbacks, maybe there wouldn't be this mess with the school budget, foreclosures, etc.

Stop living high on the hog and realize s happens. Plan accordingly.
Watching Closely

Brooklyn, NY

#100 Jun 27, 2008
For what it's worth regarding teachers' salaries, as a whole Wantagh teachers' salaries rank in the lower 1/3 of all of Nassau County. As a tier 3 or 4 ( I forget) my wife, with 10 years of experience, does not even make the median salary of the district. This with a Masters +30 credits. She pays for all benefits, and has contributed to the state pension. The benefits package teachers receive today is nowhere near what the older tier 1 and tier 2 teachers signed on for.
This failure of Wantagh's budget lies squarely on the backs for the school board and the administration. Both refused to listen to the people. They were asked to submit a revised budget and refused to. Now the kids pay the price for their failure.
Realist

New York, NY

#101 Jun 27, 2008
As predicted, the only things that will be cut are the hot buttons that keep the parents in line.
These school districts function like organized crime families.
Bond fails on first vote? Have another vote.
Budget fails on first vote? Have another vote.
Budget fails second vote? Maximize the pain so the voters will OBEY next year.
It's time to dismantle the entire failed system.
Merrick

Locust Valley, NY

#103 Jun 27, 2008
Its very simple...If you dont like your job, or the way you get treated, or your pay scale...GO GET ANOTHER JOB.
ITS A FREE COUNTRY AND THE UNIONS ARE KILLING IT.
FED UP2

Hempstead, NY

#104 Jun 27, 2008
LI needs to change wrote:
<quoted text> I'd like to talk about raises. I was both a teacher and worked in private sector. Salaries in the real world are fairly low year over year, especially recently. So when schools ask for a 4% tax hike and the taxpayer only got a 2% raise please just do the math. They have no $ to give. The average raise in the private sector is 2-3%. That is the NORM! That is across the board. You tell them to find another job - I've been there. It is nonexistent. Trust me, after 17 years they are NOT making 6 figures or anywhere close to that. I think teachers need to understand that the average person is NOT getting cost of living + raise, which comes out to 6-7% year over year. I know this for a fact. People are actually getting no raise, losing their job, it's just a very sad time. Tenured teachers are not subject to what is going on in the economy. They are protected. Have some compassion for people who are struggling. These are smart, eduated people who paid for both their bachelors and masters on their own as well as teachers. They didn't get an automatic step raise either for that accomplishment. They have loans too. They are not complaining but this is the reality. There are NO jobs to find right now. We are in a recession. I believe if the world is pretty much living on austerity why can't schools. And yes, what if teachers got a 'regular' raise of say 3-4% each year in order to save some $ so that more could be given to the children. Sometimes yes, people have to do things they don't like. The LI Index stated that 69% of the 18-34 year olds are planning to leave LI in the next 5 years. The BOE can continue to have inflated contracts which cost the taxpayers 80% of the budget (and that is direct from a school board member who does the budget) or change. It's really that simple. You are working hard, yes, but everyone is. I have many friends who work 45 hours a week in one job, then 20 hours a week in a p/t job just so they don't lose their home. They do this all year long with only 10 days off for vacation. That is struggling. Everyone has a right to live on LI and not everyone has to be a teacher or a cop to survive. Taxes should go up no more than cost of living each year. I have many friends in other states who are teachers and they are not nearly do as well as LI teachers but they never ever talk about taxes, salaries. They are just happy with their job. It's talked about so much on LI because something is wrong. NY taxes are 79% HIGHER than the rest of the nation. That's why people are upset. Something is very wrong. Everyone should be payed fairly for an honest, hard day's work but when one population gets 70% of the taxes, and 80% of that goes to the salaries/benefits/ pensions, it's pretty obvious people are upset. I think the tax cap is a great 'start' to getting things back on track. Another idea would be to freeze salaries for a year, very popular in the private sector, instead of having layoffs. Just my thoughts and I very much respect your thoughts on this topic.
Very well said! If you happen to live in Wantagh, I implore you to run for our school board. We need intelligent and rational people. If you do not live in Wantagh, then I hope you run for your own school board!
Watching Closely

Brooklyn, NY

#105 Jun 27, 2008
mrbs1971,
"How is it the residents fault?"
Most people I spoke to were unaware of the interest payments beginning. It's the same mindset of people taking huge mortgages with no clue as to how they will pay them back.

Believe me, we don't "live high on the hog". The house is already paid off. Me personally, I have NEVER voted in favor of a school budget. I see way too much of what really goes on.

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