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Jews for Jesus Hit Town and Find a Tough Crowd

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Shaun Buchhalter, facing camera, a staff missionary in New York for Jews for Jesus, offers encouragement before members proselytize.

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BIBLE ANSWER MAN

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Jul 5, 2006
 

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MOSES AND APOSTLE PAUL AGREE ON SAME THING

Deuteronomy 10:15-17 (New International Version)
15 Yet the LORD set his affection on your forefathers and loved them, and he chose you, their descendants, above all the nations, as it is today.
16 Circumcise your hearts, therefore, and do not be stiff-necked any longer.
17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

Romans 2:28-29 (New International Version)
28 A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical.
29 No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.

SO, ARE YOU GOING TO SAY NOW THAT BEING A JEW IS INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS OF THE HOLY BIBLE TEACHES?
Patricia

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Jul 6, 2006
 
Jesus was Jewish and fulfilled all of the prophecies concerning the Messiah with the rest to be fulfilled when He comes again. Jesus IS the Messiah. I appreciate Jews for Jesus for telling the truth.

Mr. Anti-Christ in Germany... you can check out other historical books if you don't accept the Bible. Read Josephus for instance. And His name IS Jesus -- there's obviously power in the name since you can't even bring yourself to say/spell it correctly. Seek the truth and you will find it.
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Patricia wrote:
Jesus was Jewish and fulfilled all of the prophecies concerning the Messiah with the rest to be fulfilled when He comes again. Jesus IS the Messiah. I appreciate Jews for Jesus for telling the truth.
Mr. Anti-Christ in Germany... you can check out other historical books if you don't accept the Bible. Read Josephus for instance. And His name IS Jesus -- there's obviously power in the name since you can't even bring yourself to say/spell it correctly. Seek the truth and you will find it.
patricia. i am jewish, and an educated one at that. believe me when i tell you that any individual who believes that jesus was/ is the messiah cannot, i repeat, CANNOT, be jewish. don't tell me, someone who is jewish, how my religion functions and under which pretenses that it does so. jews for jesus is a cult at best. do not confuse a well anchored, documented, and literary religion with something such as jfj.

shalom!
Gnostic Bob

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Jul 6, 2006
 
Any reference that the new testament portion bible is authentic is simply wrong. Even if parts are accurate, Elaine Pagels has exposed the truth behind how and why the bible was put together. The new testament was forged to make it appear as though Jesus fulfilled the prophecies. It is the biggest scandal in history and reflects the true nature of mankind. Power corrupts.

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Jul 6, 2006
 
Except...Jews for Jesus started out as a Christian group, but found they could "recruit" more jews by calling themselves Jews for Jesus. If you're Jewish, there are certain acts that must be brought about by the Messiah (for example, peace on earth and the mass resurrection of the dead). Clearly Jesus did not fulfill these. So if you believe Jesus i the messiah, it would be contradictory to also consider yourself Jewish.
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Jesus was Jewish and fulfilled all of the prophecies concerning the Messiah with the rest to be fulfilled when He comes again. Jesus IS the Messiah. I appreciate Jews for Jesus for telling the truth.
Mr. Anti-Christ in Germany... you can check out other historical books if you don't accept the Bible. Read Josephus for instance. And His name IS Jesus -- there's obviously power in the name since you can't even bring yourself to say/spell it correctly. Seek the truth and you will find it.

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Jul 6, 2006
 
very nicely put :)
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patricia. i am jewish, and an educated one at that. believe me when i tell you that any individual who believes that jesus was/ is the messiah cannot, i repeat, CANNOT, be jewish. don't tell me, someone who is jewish, how my religion functions and under which pretenses that it does so. jews for jesus is a cult at best. do not confuse a well anchored, documented, and literary religion with something such as jfj.
shalom!
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Jul 7, 2006
 
Patricia wrote:
Jesus was Jewish and fulfilled all of the prophecies concerning the Messiah with the rest to be fulfilled when He comes again. Jesus IS the Messiah. I appreciate Jews for Jesus for telling the truth.
Mr. Anti-Christ in Germany... you can check out other historical books if you don't accept the Bible. Read Josephus for instance. And His name IS Jesus -- there's obviously power in the name since you can't even bring yourself to say/spell it correctly. Seek the truth and you will find it.
bIG DEAL IF SOMEONE DOES NOT SPELL HIS NAME CORRECTLY. People who focus on spelling have nothing of substance to say.
clydecaddy

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Jul 7, 2006
 
I am still waiting for someone from Jews for Jesus to prove it is not a support group for an illegal mexican in the U.S.A.
Bill Casey

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Jul 8, 2006
 
How about you all stop your arguing about God and Jesus and Jews and Christians and...Get a LIFE !!!!!!!
Webhead

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Jul 8, 2006
 
97 references in the Tanach confirm 90 references in the Brit Hadashah by the Completed Jewish bible. There is a referral to Christ in the Koran.Muslims know the 11th Iman revealed the presence of that Pale Horse.Marantha to the Kingdom of Yeshua Hamaschiach.A penitent heart will receive the Crowns of glory,knowledge,life,lovingkin dness,righteousness and wisdom thru confession and forgiveness.Shalom!
THE ANTI-CHRIST

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Jul 9, 2006
 
The reason there is reference to Jesus in the Koran is because the Koran was written AFTER the supposed time of Jesus.

Jesus was not Moschiach because he (if he even existed) did not fulfill the requirements. You CAN'T get around that one.

Plus I LOVE how people try to say that Jesus is decended from David, proving his Jewish heritage. Joseph was supposedly decended from David and as Joseph was NOT his father and the fact that Jewish heritage is determined by the MOTHER, this blows their theories out of the water.

Kinda funny how idiotic they are.
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97 references in the Tanach confirm 90 references in the Brit Hadashah by the Completed Jewish bible. There is a referral to Christ in the Koran.Muslims know the 11th Iman revealed the presence of that Pale Horse.Marantha to the Kingdom of Yeshua Hamaschiach.A penitent heart will receive the Crowns of glory,knowledge,life,lovingkin dness,righteousness and wisdom thru confession and forgiveness.Shalom!
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Jul 9, 2006
 
THE ANTI-CHRIST wrote:
The reason there is reference to Jesus in the Koran is because the Koran was written AFTER the supposed time of Jesus.
Jesus was not Moschiach because he (if he even existed) did not fulfill the requirements. You CAN'T get around that one.
Plus I LOVE how people try to say that Jesus is decended from David, proving his Jewish heritage. Joseph was supposedly decended from David and as Joseph was NOT his father and the fact that Jewish heritage is determined by the MOTHER, this blows their theories out of the water.
Kinda funny how idiotic they are.
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I will to continue to pray for you in the name of Yeshua Moschiach.
clydecaddy

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Jul 9, 2006
 
Webhead wrote:
<quoted text>I will to continue to pray for you in the name of Yeshua Moschiach.
In the name of what.?
clydecaddy

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Jul 9, 2006
 
Webhead wrote:
97 references in the Tanach confirm 90 references in the Brit Hadashah by the Completed Jewish bible. There is a referral to Christ in the Koran.Muslims know the 11th Iman revealed the presence of that Pale Horse.Marantha to the Kingdom of Yeshua Hamaschiach.A penitent heart will receive the Crowns of glory,knowledge,life,lovingkin dness,righteousness and wisdom thru confession and forgiveness.Shalom!
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Jul 9, 2006
 
THE ANTI-CHRIST wrote:
There is no such thing as an old testament because there is no new testament. That is just a fiction imagined by jezer-freaks.
If you believe in jezer, then you aren't a Jew.
Simple as that.
A better dedscription is the catholic church concocted a bible to fit its cause throwing out what didn't meet their objectibe of CONTROL though FEAR. A complete manipulation and now this is the richests and most disgusting organization in the world. The are filled with the stink of pedophiles and they control our government by promising catholic vote. What a disgrace to a once thought civilized country.
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Jul 9, 2006
 
I strongly recommend "Constantines Sword" for serious religious thinkers and surely for any Jew dealing with the Jews for jesus advocates.
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Jul 10, 2006
 
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<quoted text>In the name of what.?
Arameic for Jesus Christ,the Jewish languge used when Jesus spread his message.
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Jul 10, 2006
 
Argue, fight, piss, moan, complain, debate, cry and whine... don't y'all think by now that God has pretty much had it with all of you? When are you fools going to wake up to the fact that there is but ONE God and many messengers? When are you going to realize and accept that Earth holds many different people from all four corners of the planet who hold different beliefs and consciences, are of every color, every spiritual school of thought, every possible category of heart and mind, and each person has the right to think and believe whatever they want? When are you going to put aside your differences,stop imposing your selfish and self-centered mindsets on everyone else who disagrees with you, make peace with each other and get on with the real business at hand, which is, namely, to cooperate and solve the problems that face all of us? When?
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Jul 10, 2006
 
Bill Casey wrote:
Argue, fight, piss, moan, complain, debate, cry and whine... don't y'all think by now that God has pretty much had it with all of you? When are you fools going to wake up to the fact that there is but ONE God and many messengers? When are you going to realize and accept that Earth holds many different people from all four corners of the planet who hold different beliefs and consciences, are of every color, every spiritual school of thought, every possible category of heart and mind, and each person has the right to think and believe whatever they want? When are you going to put aside your differences,stop imposing your selfish and self-centered mindsets on everyone else who disagrees with you, make peace with each other and get on with the real business at hand, which is, namely, to cooperate and solve the problems that face all of us? When?
When we all are dead. Religious belief has a subconscious foundation in ego. Humans all want to be right, especially when dealing something that has such tremendous control over other humans.
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Jul 10, 2006
 
THE ANTI-CHRIST wrote:
If you're for jezuz, then you're not a Jew.
It IS as simple as that.
AMEN and Shalom!!!!!!!!!! How simple. Too simple for Jews For Jesus to figure out. Duh!! I applaud you. Thanks!!!!!!!
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