Smithtown nurses charged with endange...

Smithtown nurses charged with endangering kids after walk-out

There are 183 comments on the Newsday story from Mar 22, 2007, titled Smithtown nurses charged with endangering kids after walk-out. In it, Newsday reports that:

Ten nurses were charged Thursday with endangering children when they resigned from their posts from a nursing center in Smithtown, along with an attorney who advised them.

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Huntington, NY

#1 Mar 22, 2007
Good Job Newsday. Why were they walking out?
dennis b

United States

#2 Mar 22, 2007
You got to love it - in this state in some jobs not only do you get dumped on & overworked, not only are you not allowed the right to strike(though they can fire you still), you can't even quit.

what a state.
Fed up Suffolk Taxpayer

North Bergen, NJ

#5 Mar 22, 2007
Did they walk out or resign? Because if you resign and give notice than I'm not sure what they can charge you with. But if you walk out before your shift ends then you can get disciplinary action taken against you.

As a health care worker this article sucks and explains nothing. Way too vague.

Since: Mar 07

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#6 Mar 22, 2007
Also, why was the attorney charged with solicitation? Were they offered another job?

Were they RN's or LPN's?

Need more details in this story.

Dumont, NJ

#7 Mar 22, 2007
They should all rot in jail. If that was my kid you nurses pulled that on I would seek justice my own way.

Bronx, NY

#8 Mar 22, 2007
If these Nurses had a signed contact then 3 cheers for the District Attorney.

If they are per diem employees the District Attorney should mind his own business.

Just as they can be fired at any time they should have the right to resign at any time. Although 2 weeks notice is usually the correct courtesy in any job unless you have a better job available that you must take immediately. Then an apology in your resignation is called for.

I assume everyone is rushing out to meet with an attorney and file a lawsuit!

One final note here. The Registered Nurse shortage in the United States is caused by one thing. The abuse of the Nurses by administrators who keep piling more and more intensive care patients onto their daily schedules and then arguing their contractys call for them to care for a certain amount of patients. That was fine many years ago when a Nurse had two critical patients and 6 convelesing patients that did not need constant attention. That doesn't exist anymore because insurence company rules call for the immediate discharge of these non critical patients and the administrators fill the beds with critical care patients that need constant attention. One nurse canmnot care for 8 or 10 ICU patients at a time.

Now lwt's go back to the critical shortage of registered nurses in this country. 50 to 60% of 4 year degree Registered Nurses have moved on to other occupations because the stress of Nursing became overwhleming and the hospital bean counting administrators put money before adequate staffing. They drove these dedicated professionals out of the hospitals into less stressful jobs.

there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Nurses are the most abused employees in this country and THEY NEVER DESERVED THAT.




#9 Mar 22, 2007
YES, THE ARTICLE IS WAY TOO VAGUE. I find it VERY hard to believe that 10 nurses would quit their posts in the middle of the day. You don't do that kind of work because they want to get rich or have fun. Need more.

Bronx, NY

#10 Mar 22, 2007
they had no right to walk out on patients needing their attention and care.... if they were not willing to do the job then they shouldnt have gone into the field...especially in the medical field.. you should go into the field not for the money but for your love of wanting to make people better and the love of the job.. money should be no object when lives are at stake

Since: Mar 07

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#11 Mar 22, 2007
OK, if you read the enditement posted you get this clip:
The defendants pursued their objective without regard to the consequences that their pursuit would have on Avalon Gardens’ pediatric patients. The defendants agreed that the defendant nurses, including all the available nurses who cared for children on ventilators, would resign without giving Avalon Gardens notice. The defendants did so knowing that their resignations and the prior resignations at other Sentosa Care facilities would render it difficult for Avalon Gardens to find, in a timely manner, skilled replacement nurses for Avalon Gardens’ pediatric patients,
From what I'm getting from this is all the nurses handed in formal resignations and resigned immediately.
And finding replacements is next to impossible so I don't know what Avalon Gardens or the DA is thinking.
Nurses are NOT a dime a dozen.

Waxhaw, NC

#12 Mar 22, 2007
ok newsday you only reported part of the story. why did they walk out

Rockville Centre, NY

#13 Mar 22, 2007
Did the nurses, try to notify the authorities that the children will be left alone when they walked out? Was it a sudden walk out? Why did they walk out?

Sometimes I think a bunch of Long Islanders should just write a blog of local news, ask questions, etc, and do a better job than Newsday.
Common Sense

Pearl River, NY

#14 Mar 22, 2007
Wow.... Great job Newsday! Did your REAL reporters walk-out and you had a group of third graders write the story? How about some details on WHY this happened? Also.... when did it become a crime to quit a job? Were these nurses sworn members of some branch of government? Do they NOT have the right to quit a job that they were unhappy with? I'm sure management has as much blame for making this situation happen... when is the DA having them arrested? This is becoming more and more of a police state... wake up people... REVOLT...

I think the only thing that the D.A. managed with this move was a lawsuit and a payday with BIG numbers on it for these nurses!(Nice going girls!) The nursing profession is overworked and underpaid... no doubt these were the reasons that they walked... perhaps a little background into the details of the story will give people a better idea as to why this whole thing happened...

Since: Mar 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#15 Mar 22, 2007
Nurses are usually a very caring group, but maybe these nurses (RNs or LPNs?) are the exception. Why is an attorney involved in all this? If they walked out, they have in theory quit, and they should be replaced. The welfare of the children should have been foremost in their minds. I wonder who prompted or lead this mass exodus.

Safety Harbor, FL

#16 Mar 22, 2007
Looks like Newsday did a great job of reporting. Well done!
Love it

Coram, NY

#17 Mar 22, 2007
Yes! Lock up the lowlife attorney who told the nurses to walk out, leaving those kids helpless. They sit back and observe the bedlam they cause by their greedy, left wing advice and collect tons of cash. Now he's in it along with his clients. Doesn't feel so good from this side of the law, does it? You can spend all the money you took from the nurses for your "expert advice" on your own defense attorney, you scumbag.
Newsday Sucks

San Diego, CA

#18 Mar 22, 2007
Completely one-sided story. Did Newsday just reprint the press release from Spota? Why was there no input from the nurses or the facility? I can't believe anybody involved in printing this story would call themselves a journalist.
East Meadow

Brooklyn, NY

#19 Mar 22, 2007
All of the nurses resigned on April 7,2006 making their resignation eff. immediately. All of the nurses were under a contract.
The nurses were fueled into this action by the attorney that is being charged. He represents a competitiors health care agency.
All of the nurses were brought to this country under contract and were then trained to care for these children. They are all here on Visas and walked out on valid contracts leaving these children with no care.
for sure

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Mar 22, 2007
I notice they are all hispanic. So nice.

Edison, NJ

#22 Mar 22, 2007
Ranier Sichon, 32, of Radcliff, Kentucky.....anyone else think that's a tough commute?

Elizabeth, NJ

#23 Mar 22, 2007
From what I understand these RN's were under contract. They weren't happy with their contracts so they handed in their resignations and walked out. They didn't give ample notice. They took a huge gamble in doing that. What if something horrible would have happened to one of those helpless children? They could have been facing more than child endangerment charges!! I don't care how bad they think the work environment was or how badly they think think they were being treated. Those children's welfare should have been the most important thing to them. I can understand them wanting to quit if they were unhappy, it's their right. But give ample notice! The children deserve at least that much!!! They didn't ask to be there, they didn't ask to be sick. I don't understand how anyone a nurse, doctor, LPN, or a CNA could walk out on sick children. That's just wrong on so many levels.

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