Nassau/Suffolk High School Football
NY Football Fan

New York, NY

#8327 Oct 21, 2013
Pat-Med 88 wrote:
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Now your to starting to get it.#10 Commack's combined opponents won/loss record after six games 11-25.
#10 was their pre-season seed. We are 6 games in and guess what... They are #1 in Division 1. The power rating system rewards you for beating teams with better records and penalizes you for losing to teams with losing records. As of today Commack is the only undefeated team in DIV 1 and also #1 in power points. They control their own destiny to be the DIV I #1 seed in the playoffs.

But wait... They don't play anyone. So throw their 6-0 1st place record out the window because it means nothing.

Commack will have to prove themselves in the playoffs and that is fair since Commack has been one of the perenial doormats in DIV 1 for over a decade.
Pat-Med 88

Indio, CA

#8328 Oct 21, 2013
NY Football Fan wrote:
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#10 was their pre-season seed. We are 6 games in and guess what... They are #1 in Division 1. The power rating system rewards you for beating teams with better records and penalizes you for losing to teams with losing records. As of today Commack is the only undefeated team in DIV 1 and also #1 in power points. They control their own destiny to be the DIV I #1 seed in the playoffs.
But wait... They don't play anyone. So throw their 6-0 1st place record out the window because it means nothing.
Commack will have to prove themselves in the playoffs and that is fair since Commack has been one of the perenial doormats in DIV 1 for over a decade.
If Naaaau/Suffolk ever actually used an accurate rating system Commack be in the #3 or #4 spot, but because they only use a "glorified" won/loss fractual system (power points)#10 Commack looks good with their 128.000 power points.

Now lets look at Division III, you have pre-seed #11 Eastport/South Manor sitting at the number two spot with a 5-1 record yet have 134.99 power points? HMMMM how did that happen? Oh I know how, Eastport/SM opponents combined won/loss record is 22-14. That's because they have played against two teams that are at .500 (Amityville 3-3, and Bellport 3-3, plus three teams that have winning records (Islip 5-1, Hauppauge 5-1, Deer Park 4-2), and yet only one team is below .500, Sayville 2-4.

BTW Miller Place is also undefeated in Division III with a 6-0 record yet has 136.67 power points, Babylon is 6-0 in Division IV with 145.00 power points and Smithtown West is 5-1 in Division II with 135.00 power points.

Also you never answered my question on who has beaten Floyd two time in one season? The answer is Pat-Med in 2002.
Pat-Med 88

Indio, CA

#8329 Oct 21, 2013
Da Fan wrote:
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Commack is undefeated and did beat Sachem north. They are one of five teams in the division that could win the Suffolk county championship.
And who is Sachem North? When was the last time they won a Suffolk County Championship? 1995. They are the "bridesmaid" of Division I. Commack has won as many SCC as any of the Sachem's.
NY Football Fan

New York, NY

#8330 Oct 21, 2013
Pat-Med 88 wrote:
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If Naaaau/Suffolk ever actually used an accurate rating system Commack be in the #3 or #4 spot, but because they only use a "glorified" won/loss fractual system (power points)#10 Commack looks good with their 128.000 power points.
Now lets look at Division III, you have pre-seed #11 Eastport/South Manor sitting at the number two spot with a 5-1 record yet have 134.99 power points? HMMMM how did that happen? Oh I know how, Eastport/SM opponents combined won/loss record is 22-14. That's because they have played against two teams that are at .500 (Amityville 3-3, and Bellport 3-3, plus three teams that have winning records (Islip 5-1, Hauppauge 5-1, Deer Park 4-2), and yet only one team is below .500, Sayville 2-4.
BTW Miller Place is also undefeated in Division III with a 6-0 record yet has 136.67 power points, Babylon is 6-0 in Division IV with 145.00 power points and Smithtown West is 5-1 in Division II with 135.00 power points.
Also you never answered my question on who has beaten Floyd two time in one season? The answer is Pat-Med in 2002.
Yes. I know that Pat Med had that great team in 2002. I didn't realize they beat Floyd 2x that year.

Listen Commack is a bit giddy right now with the success team is having this year. Doesn't happen too often in this town where BaseBall and Soccer are king. I know the schedule has been favorable. But 6-0 is 6-0. Good teams take care of business and that's what they did. No one gave Commack a chance to go to Longwood and win. Not only did they win, they dominated them. No one gave Commack a prayer to got to Sachem N and win. Commack won that one as well.
Pat-Med 88

Indio, CA

#8331 Oct 21, 2013
NY Football Fan wrote:
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Yes. I know that Pat Med had that great team in 2002. I didn't realize they beat Floyd 2x that year.
Listen Commack is a bit giddy right now with the success team is having this year. Doesn't happen too often in this town where BaseBall and Soccer are king. I know the schedule has been favorable. But 6-0 is 6-0. Good teams take care of business and that's what they did. No one gave Commack a chance to go to Longwood and win. Not only did they win, they dominated them. No one gave Commack a prayer to got to Sachem N and win. Commack won that one as well.
Pat-Med beat Floyd twice once on 11/09/2002 23-7, and then again in the wind driven pouring rain the following weekend 7-3.

The difference between the 2000 Commack team and the 2013 team, is that they went out in the second game of the season and beat the 1999 LIC Class I and Suffolk County Division Champs 29-14 (#2 Brentwood), behind the passing of Prahalis's 4 td passes of which 3 of them went to Tornee. That opened everyone's eyes in Division I. They then preceeded to beat highly ranked #4 Pat-Med,#5 Central Islip, & #1 Sachem in the fifth game of the regular. A long the way the took out Connetquot. The only game they lost during the regular season was to #3 Lindenhurst 14-11, which gave them a 7-1 record. The next weekend in the playoffs they destroyed Lindenhurst 42-20, again behind the strong passing game of Mike Prahalis (10-19 210 yards 4 scores)and receivers Bryan Tornee 2 scores and Keith Connors with 2 scores). Commack used a different offense in the second game going with 4 receivers which shook up Lindenhurst's double coverage which they used in the first game.

The 2013 Commack will get respect if they win the Division I Suffolk County Championship. So lets let the teams play it out and let the cards fall.
NY Football Fan

New York, NY

#8332 Oct 21, 2013
Pat-Med 88 wrote:
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Pat-Med beat Floyd twice once on 11/09/2002 23-7, and then again in the wind driven pouring rain the following weekend 7-3.
The difference between the 2000 Commack team and the 2013 team, is that they went out in the second game of the season and beat the 1999 LIC Class I and Suffolk County Division Champs 29-14 (#2 Brentwood), behind the passing of Prahalis's 4 td passes of which 3 of them went to Tornee. That opened everyone's eyes in Division I. They then preceeded to beat highly ranked #4 Pat-Med,#5 Central Islip, & #1 Sachem in the fifth game of the regular. A long the way the took out Connetquot. The only game they lost during the regular season was to #3 Lindenhurst 14-11, which gave them a 7-1 record. The next weekend in the playoffs they destroyed Lindenhurst 42-20, again behind the strong passing game of Mike Prahalis (10-19 210 yards 4 scores)and receivers Bryan Tornee 2 scores and Keith Connors with 2 scores). Commack used a different offense in the second game going with 4 receivers which shook up Lindenhurst's double coverage which they used in the first game.
The 2013 Commack will get respect if they win the Division I Suffolk County Championship. So lets let the teams play it out and let the cards fall.
Yes. Agreed.

Since: Jan 07

White Plains, NY

#8333 Oct 21, 2013
Pat-Med 88 wrote:
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Pat-Med beat Floyd twice once on 11/09/2002 23-7, and then again in the wind driven pouring rain the following weekend 7-3.
The difference between the 2000 Commack team and the 2013 team, is that they went out in the second game of the season and beat the 1999 LIC Class I and Suffolk County Division Champs 29-14 (#2 Brentwood), behind the passing of Prahalis's 4 td passes of which 3 of them went to Tornee. That opened everyone's eyes in Division I. They then preceeded to beat highly ranked #4 Pat-Med,#5 Central Islip, & #1 Sachem in the fifth game of the regular. A long the way the took out Connetquot. The only game they lost during the regular season was to #3 Lindenhurst 14-11, which gave them a 7-1 record. The next weekend in the playoffs they destroyed Lindenhurst 42-20, again behind the strong passing game of Mike Prahalis (10-19 210 yards 4 scores)and receivers Bryan Tornee 2 scores and Keith Connors with 2 scores). Commack used a different offense in the second game going with 4 receivers which shook up Lindenhurst's double coverage which they used in the first game.
The 2013 Commack will get respect if they win the Division I Suffolk County Championship. So lets let the teams play it out and let the cards fall.
One of the reasons Lindy beat Commack that day was Bulldog defensive end Joe Pritchard chased Prahalis all over the field never letting him get comfortable. Joe didnt play in the playoff game because he broke his arm in that game and required surgery.

Since: Jan 07

White Plains, NY

#8334 Oct 21, 2013
NY Football Fan wrote:
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Floyd is the top Footbal program on LI. Until someone knocks them off in playoffs, they should and deserve to be favorite.
Yes. Lindy does have a nice passing attack. Commack had some trouble adjusting to it this past Sat. Lindy run game was non existent. Commack led this game all the way and had a 28-14 lead late in 4th qtr. Commack QB threw for 180+ yds and 2 TD's. Commack RB ran for 246 yds and 2TDs as well. Commack had a 50 yard rushing TD called back in 3rd qtr due to a rediculous blocking in back penalty. Lindy scored a late TD on a 30yd pass to corner of end zone. Lindy is a scrappy team.
If Commack has the fortune of facing Floyd in the playoffs, I give them a shot as well. You cant run the ball on their D and they have a balanced offensive attack. Their passing game I'll put up against anyone's. Their running game is strong and their O line is big and physical and very experiened - all 3 year varsity players.
But wait... they are the pre-season #10 seed so they shouldn't be part of the conversation. They haven't played anyone.
Lindy also intercepted Commack 3 times in the first half and dropped one in the second.
bigtool

Weehawken, NJ

#8336 Oct 21, 2013
the X- FACTOR has claimed an amazing 20 white girls since the newsday story and their fast start.imagine how many he'll have after they win.THE X-FACTOR.
NY Football Fan

New York, NY

#8337 Oct 21, 2013
Bigdawg wrote:
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Lindy also intercepted Commack 3 times in the first half and dropped one in the second.
Yes they did. Commack QB was forcing some throws in 1st half. He did however make several quality throws througout the day, including 2 TD passes - one for 33yds and the other for 27yds.
bigtool

Weehawken, NJ

#8338 Oct 21, 2013
bigtool wrote:
the X- FACTOR has claimed an amazing 20 white girls since the newsday story and their fast start.imagine how many he'll have after they win.THE X-FACTOR.
the X-FACTOR says they come to him so whats a 18,19,20 or 21 year old to do.i just hope he stays focused on the task at hand the white girls will come and go but to win a title is once in a lifetime.
Pat-Med 88

Indio, CA

#8339 Oct 21, 2013
Bigdawg wrote:
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One of the reasons Lindy beat Commack that day was Bulldog defensive end Joe Pritchard chased Prahalis all over the field never letting him get comfortable. Joe didnt play in the playoff game because he broke his arm in that game and required surgery.

I remember Joe Pritchard, he was an excellent player for Lindy. Wasn't he on the NYPD and passed away recently? I still think the play that killed Commack in that game was by Lindy LB Matt Mendel who destroyed Commack's TB Jeff Dena on Commack's 3 yard line, who then fumbled the ball into Commack's end zone and DE David Hartzler recovered it for a td, with less that ten minutes in the fourth quarter to make the score 14-3.

That Lindy win knocked Walt Whitman (6-2) out of the playoffs
Pat-Med 88

Indio, CA

#8340 Oct 21, 2013
NY Football Fan wrote:
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Yes. Agreed.
Well at least we agree on that.
Pat-Med 88

Indio, CA

#8341 Oct 21, 2013
Bigdawg wrote:
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Lindy also intercepted Commack 3 times in the first half and dropped one in the second.
It wasn't only Joe Pritchard that caused problems for Commack it was also LB Charlie Eidenweil who was blitzing on just about every play in the second half.
Pat-Med 88

Indio, CA

#8342 Oct 21, 2013
NY Football Fan wrote:
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Yes they did. Commack QB was forcing some throws in 1st half. He did however make several quality throws througout the day, including 2 TD passes - one for 33yds and the other for 27yds.
I don't believe that Prahalis had 2 td passes. Commack led 3-0, then Lindy's QB Eric Conroy scored on a keeper which made the score 7-3. The next scoring was by Hartzier's fumble recover in Commack's end zone to make it 14-3. Then Prahalis hit Sean Malone for a 46 yard td pass, 2 point conversion good to make the score 14 - 11 which was the final score.
sac north

New Rochelle, NY

#8343 Oct 21, 2013
NY Football Fan wrote:
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These are good points you are making. Floyd is always strong. The teams that will legitimately challenge Floyd are teams that have an established passing game. Floyd's two losses this season are to Pat-Med and Connetquot. These teams have solid passing attacks and are multi dimensional. Another factor in beating Floyd is having a defense that can shut down the run. Their best player is #20. Stop him and you are in good shape. In both of Floyd's losses this season, he has been shut down and pretty much a non factor.
Thanks that makes sense. I am a huge Sachem North fan since my nephew played for them. After watching Floyd wipe us out again and reading your numbers I a little gun shy. I think North's road to LIC is hoping someone else knocks off Floyd and we play someone else in SCC game. I think we have a shot based on Floyd's losses to Pat Med and Connetquot.
Pat-Med 88

Indio, CA

#8344 Oct 21, 2013
sac north wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks that makes sense. I am a huge Sachem North fan since my nephew played for them. After watching Floyd wipe us out again and reading your numbers I a little gun shy. I think North's road to LIC is hoping someone else knocks off Floyd and we play someone else in SCC game. I think we have a shot based on Floyd's losses to Pat Med and Connetquot.
Another stat that no one looks at is T.O.P.(time of possession). That's what Pat-Med and Connetquot had over Floyd. They were able to keep Floyd's offense off the field. The same way Floyd keep SN's offense off the field and made them punt six times in the first half.

What happened to Pat-Med against Northport was they played against a pretty good dual threat QB in Connor Quinn who torched Pat-Med for 275 yards and two scores.

The big problem with SN is they have no passing game.
bigtool

Weehawken, NJ

#8345 Oct 21, 2013
sac north wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks that makes sense. I am a huge Sachem North fan since my nephew played for them. After watching Floyd wipe us out again and reading your numbers I a little gun shy. I think North's road to LIC is hoping someone else knocks off Floyd and we play someone else in SCC game. I think we have a shot based on Floyd's losses to Pat Med and Connetquot.
Commack wins easy and we all know why.
An Old Sailor

AOL

#8346 Oct 21, 2013
hs football wrote:
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Old sailor you have to admit this Guy tool is a trip and a half
After three years of the tool, we all admit it. I have learned to live with his acidic tongue.
An Old Sailor

AOL

#8347 Oct 21, 2013
bigtool wrote:
<quoted text>what did you teach SHOP and drivers ed.callan knew how to work the refs blount is just a screaming fool.trust me the refs will get their revenge.
No and no. Shop is so 1960s tool, it is called Technology today. You probably still call it Home Ec. It is known as Home & Careers.

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