NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#313292 Jul 31, 2014
the Don wrote:
<quoted text> he sure is where is drew going to play?
2B...
Da GreatDirtyWater

Bexley, Australia

#313293 Jul 31, 2014
Cashman with a real head scratcher picking up Prado and Drew

But he finally got Drew who he wanted from last year, too bad no draft pick on him when he goes FA at the end of the year

Still no pitching

Rare Sox Yankees trade, could have kept Johnson who is only gonna warm a seat if Medi-brooks is healthy.makes Imastarter Carp double redundant with the Wrench coming on board from the Cards

Other Sox moves running Sox forums hot great talk

Like the Lester move though I have alot of respect for Gomes he just wasn't producing enough to be a regular and the Sox need an OF power bat.

Very good return on Lackey guess all the chicken and beer guys are gone now

Didn't get much for Miller who I wouldn't have moved simply because I'm a fan

Doubront was a malcontent and deserved to go

See ya in spring Jon
Da GreatDirtyWater

Bexley, Australia

#313294 Jul 31, 2014
the Don wrote:
<quoted text> he sure is where is drew going to play?
Think they'll release Roberts
Da GreatDirtyWater

Bexley, Australia

#313295 Jul 31, 2014
Woop guess they did

Yankees To Designate Brian Roberts
By Jeff Todd [July 31, 2014 at 3:41pm CDT]
The Yankees will designate Brian Roberts for assignment to create space for Stephen Drew, reports Bryan Hoch of MLB.com (via Twitter).

Total IF facelift for the Yankees

Still no pitching as the rotation doesn't rotate and the pen burns
Da GreatDirtyWater

Bexley, Australia

#313296 Jul 31, 2014
Rays got pummeled on Price

Guess that mean Sherzerzerezerer is gonna be in major play over the winter
Da GreatDirtyWater

Bexley, Australia

#313297 Jul 31, 2014
Sox Front Office Showing Yanks How It’s Done
July 31, 2014 | 0 comment | in Uncategorized | by Vizzini
The Red Sox’ Reality-Based Front Office strategy is turning our heads. First of all, we tip our caps to them for getting all the basics right. Cherington and company acknowledged that a team with 48-60 pythagorean record is a bad team and that they should be selling all their impending free agents. They did so by unloading Lester, Lackey, and Miller today. They understand the value in building a deep farm system in an era where young stars are getting locked up to long term extensions. To that end they somehow managed to unload a middle reliever in Andrew Miller for the Orioles’#3 prospect, Eduardo Rodriguez (#65 on Baseball America’s preseason top 100 list). Kudos to Cherington not only for pulling off a great deal, but for overcoming the ridiculous and self-defeating taboo against trading within your own division. The Red Sox make their farm system better, and in doing so, they weaken the farm system of a division rival.
The Miller trade is a great example of a classic rebuild-for-the-future deal. In the Lester and Lackey deals, the Red Sox are pioneering a next level approach to selling at the trade deadline. By acquiring Yoenis Cespedes, Allen Craig, and Joe Kelly, Boston has reloaded with players who are sure to help them compete next year. They address their glaring need for an outfielder by adding Cespedes’ strong bat and Go-Go-Gadget Arm, giving them a solidly above average player on a below market contract. They also address both their rotation and lineup depth by adding two more players in Kelly and Craig who project to be around league average next year, have some upside from there, and are under team control for years to come. They accomplish all this before having to commit any of their budget on the free agent market.
Compare this to your third place New York Yankees. After wasting an immense opportunity to move an incomparably valuable trade chip in Cano last year, the Yankees will once again chart a course to a mediocre future by holding on to eminently tradeable assets Hiroki Kuroda and David Robertson. They once again will walk the middle course of trying to eke out a playoff appearance with an unexceptional team, neither going all in this year nor making sure next year will be better. We acknowledge that the decision to sell is much easier for Boston, as their actual W-L record puts them well out of the race. But, the Yankees’ expected W-L record (50-57) reveals that their team is in the same class as the Sox in terms of actual prowess. Look at the Rays- a better team than the Yankees (54-54 xW-L), who have about the same shot at sneaking into the playoffs. This expertly run franchise has taken a totally different tack- selling the league’s best pitcher for a young pitcher that will immediately help out next year and beyond, plus a top young prospect with years of team control. The Yankees, conversely, will be entirely dependent on a grim free market to fill huge gaps in their roster. Meanwhile the A’s, with less than half the Yankees budget, manage to compete year after year and now are going for it all with the league’s best team.
These franchises are universally respected among both SABR nerds and the old guard. They get impressive results in the standings and are all poised for a serious championship run in the near future. It can’t be ignored that they are doing things very differently than the Yankees. The closest analog to the Yankees strategy- keeping the embers of playoff hopes stoked by trading your near and long term future, and acquiring just enough now players to remain World Series long shots- is probably the Kansas City Royals. A sad, sad sentiment.
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#313298 Jul 31, 2014
Da GreatDirtyWater wrote:
Rays got pummeled on Price

Guess that mean Sherzerzerezerer is gonna be in major play over the winter
Yup...
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#313299 Jul 31, 2014
Da GreatDirtyWater wrote:
Sox Front Office Showing Yanks How It’s Done
July 31, 2014 | 0 comment | in Uncategorized | by Vizzini
The Red Sox’ Reality-Based Front Office strategy is turning our heads. First of all, we tip our caps to them for getting all the basics right. Cherington and company acknowledged that a team with 48-60 pythagorean record is a bad team and that they should be selling all their impending free agents. They did so by unloading Lester, Lackey, and Miller today. They understand the value in building a deep farm system in an era where young stars are getting locked up to long term extensions. To that end they somehow managed to unload a middle reliever in Andrew Miller for the Orioles’#3 prospect, Eduardo Rodriguez (#65 on Baseball America’s preseason top 100 list). Kudos to Cherington not only for pulling off a great deal, but for overcoming the ridiculous and self-defeating taboo against trading within your own division. The Red Sox make their farm system better, and in doing so, they weaken the farm system of a division rival.
The Miller trade is a great example of a classic rebuild-for-the-future deal. In the Lester and Lackey deals, the Red Sox are pioneering a next level approach to selling at the trade deadline. By acquiring Yoenis Cespedes, Allen Craig, and Joe Kelly, Boston has reloaded with players who are sure to help them compete next year. They address their glaring need for an outfielder by adding Cespedes’ strong bat and Go-Go-Gadget Arm, giving them a solidly above average player on a below market contract. They also address both their rotation and lineup depth by adding two more players in Kelly and Craig who project to be around league average next year, have some upside from there, and are under team control for years to come. They accomplish all this before having to commit any of their budget on the free agent market.
Compare this to your third place New York Yankees. After wasting an immense opportunity to move an incomparably valuable trade chip in Cano last year, the Yankees will once again chart a course to a mediocre future by holding on to eminently tradeable assets Hiroki Kuroda and David Robertson. They once again will walk the middle course of trying to eke out a playoff appearance with an unexceptional team, neither going all in this year nor making sure next year will be better. We acknowledge that the decision to sell is much easier for Boston, as their actual W-L record puts them well out of the race. But, the Yankees’ expected W-L record (50-57) reveals that their team is in the same class as the Sox in terms of actual prowess. Look at the Rays- a better team than the Yankees (54-54 xW-L), who have about the same shot at sneaking into the playoffs. This expertly run franchise has taken a totally different tack- selling the league’s best pitcher for a young pitcher that will immediately help out next year and beyond, plus a top young prospect with years of team control. The Yankees, conversely, will be entirely dependent on a grim free market to fill huge gaps in their roster. Meanwhile the A’s, with less than half the Yankees budget, manage to compete year after year and now are going for it all with the league’s best team.
These franchises are universally respected among both SABR nerds and the old guard. They get impressive results in the standings and are all poised for a serious championship run in the near future. It can’t be ignored that they are doing things very differently than the Yankees. The closest analog to the Yankees strategy- keeping the embers of playoff hopes stoked by trading your near and long term future, and acquiring just enough now players to remain World Series long shots- is probably the Kansas City Royals. A sad, sad sentiment.
Vizzini?...
Da GreatDirtyWater

Bexley, Australia

#313300 Jul 31, 2014
NYStateOfMind wrote:
<quoted text>
Vizzini?...
its the nomass yankees blog they don't use their real names so they can harrass Micheal Kay

still a strong opinion backed on fact... its a good blog humourous and very pointed

“Stay cool!!!!!”

Since: May 08

New York, NY

#313301 Jul 31, 2014
NYStateOfMind wrote:
<quoted text>
Vizzini?...


whoever it is, a red sox homer

a bad team? we were told by mr sox homer, they were a good team

to look on the bright side for next year is funny

cespedes is a year and less rental, surely trade bait as no way he signs long term, he will test free agency...the pipe dream of lester coming back is comical....craig off to a terrible year, no lock to be better next year...kelly a so so pitcher, out injured for most of the year, no ace...

sox have lost a true 1, 2 punch at starting pitcher...huge gap for next year...for a team that low balled lester, doubt if they are in play for the tiger pitcher, yanks will have to toss big bucks at the tiger pitcher and lester...

sox look lost next year, the rookie experiment failed this year...and will fail next year

only homer/shill fans can dream on...bottom line, they are a terrible team, and one of the few to be champion, last place and last place year prior....

they will not contend next year.
Da GreatDirtyWater

Bexley, Australia

#313302 Jul 31, 2014
NYStateOfMind wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup...
Seems teams are holding cost sontrolled prospect and cusp players

Good math and practice... not sure if dinosaurs like the Dodgers and Yankees will jump on that bandwagon even though their spend it nature isn't producing the results they want.

With the poor outlook on the Yankees rotation and their pen starting to expire the $400m upgrade might not get them even the 2nd wild card berth...
YANKEES 4 LIFE

United States

#313303 Jul 31, 2014
NYStateOfMind wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup...
Couldn't believe the NYY actually traded for Drew.... I’m surprised he wasn’t DFA’d..... Could a change of scenery do him some good?.... Is he an upgrade to Roberts and Johnson?.... If so then it's not that much.....
Da GreatDirtyWater

Bexley, Australia

#313304 Jul 31, 2014
jimi-yank wrote:
<quoted text>
whoever it is, a red sox homer
a bad team? we were told by mr sox homer, they were a good team
to look on the bright side for next year is funny
cespedes is a year and less rental, surely trade bait as no way he signs long term, he will test free agency...the pipe dream of lester coming back is comical....craig off to a terrible year, no lock to be better next year...kelly a so so pitcher, out injured for most of the year, no ace...
sox have lost a true 1, 2 punch at starting pitcher...huge gap for next year...for a team that low balled lester, doubt if they are in play for the tiger pitcher, yanks will have to toss big bucks at the tiger pitcher and lester...
sox look lost next year, the rookie experiment failed this year...and will fail next year
only homer/shill fans can dream on...bottom line, they are a terrible team, and one of the few to be champion, last place and last place year prior....
they will not contend next year.
Its a Yankee blog shitforbrains just read the whole piece
No of course you won't much easier to remain fat, dumb and irrelevant in your obsession
Lester can be resigned he said it was his goal to get back to Boston if traded
Cespedes for one season OK...then they get a draft pick if he goes.. or resign him they got the cash...thats a no brainer...
Sox reload and will win again soon while the Yankees overspend and continue the one and done rollercoast
well IF they can get a WC...and that looks shakey
and next year is a rubber stamp of the past 3 seasons for them
non contenders
another year of your whining and crying jealousy
Da GreatDirtyWater

Bexley, Australia

#313305 Jul 31, 2014
YANKEES 4 LIFE wrote:
<quoted text> Couldn't believe the NYY actually traded for Drew.... I’m surprised he wasn’t DFA’d..... Could a change of scenery do him some good?.... Is he an upgrade to Roberts and Johnson?.... If so then it's not that much.....
Drew is good D with a clutch bat

a definite upgrade over Roberts/Johnson even if the numbers don't look good today

for $5m
YANKEES 4 LIFE

United States

#313306 Jul 31, 2014
jimi-yank wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, a good fit for next year.
I like the move for Prado..... He is a gap hitter that can really hit and he can also play at RF .... The Drew deal made me scratch my head, but I did mention the NYY possibly getting him before the season started....

“Stay cool!!!!!”

Since: May 08

New York, NY

#313307 Jul 31, 2014
Da GreatDirtyWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Its a Yankee blog shitforbrains just read the whole piece
No of course you won't much easier to remain fat, dumb and irrelevant in your obsession
Lester can be resigned he said it was his goal to get back to Boston if traded
Cespedes for one season OK...then they get a draft pick if he goes.. or resign him they got the cash...thats a no brainer...
Sox reload and will win again soon while the Yankees overspend and continue the one and done rollercoast
well IF they can get a WC...and that looks shakey
and next year is a rubber stamp of the past 3 seasons for them
non contenders
another year of your whining and crying jealousy


Sox are a bad team. Quitters. Last place. Won't get 75 wins. Predicted.

Humiliation for a series winner. You're the one crying and using excuses. Sox will not have a 1 or 2 starter next year. Like a rat you will be gone when lester signs with anyone but the sox.

“Stay cool!!!!!”

Since: May 08

New York, NY

#313308 Jul 31, 2014
YANKEES 4 LIFE wrote:
<quoted text> I like the move for Prado..... He is a gap hitter that can really hit and he can also play at RF .... The Drew deal made me scratch my head, but I did mention the NYY possibly getting him before the season started....


Prado can play multiple positions like zobrist of tampa. A proven 270-280 hitter. Good defense..

Good predictions by you all year long.
YANKEES 4 LIFE

United States

#313309 Jul 31, 2014
jimi-yank wrote:
<quoted text>
Prado can play multiple positions like zobrist of tampa. A proven 270-280 hitter. Good defense..
Good predictions by you all year long.
Thanks Jimbo and who knows Drew might actually do something, but I'm not putting any money on it..... Good defender though which is always a plus..... We still need SP though.....

I agree about Prado... I think he could be an ideal number 2 hitter between Gardner and Ellsbury..... That wont happen this year..... Just give us 2 or more extras runs a game and we'll have a chance....
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#313310 Jul 31, 2014
Da GreatDirtyWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems teams are holding cost controlled prospect and cusp players

Good math and practice... not sure if dinosaurs like the Dodgers and Yankees will jump on that bandwagon even though their spend it nature isn't producing the results they want.

With the poor outlook on the Yankees rotation and their pen starting to expire the $400m upgrade might not get them even the 2nd wild card berth...
No 1 team in the AL East brought in an impact player so the division is still wide open...

NYY can't use cost control when it comes to improving their roster. The system is barren @ Trenton & SWB of MLB prospects. Their A level prospects are years away. LAD has 3 solid prospects so the transition for them could come sooner...

Think NYY did enough offensively to hang in for the 2nd WC. Comes down to the SP's. McCarthy is starting to pitch in unknown IN territory & Phelps has lost 2-3 MPH. This time last year was when Kuroda started the slide. Capuano may give some innings but don't expect more than that...

Not ruling out Lee or Byrd. Guess is if NYY is within 3-5 games of the 2nd WC on Aug 31, that's when Hal will open the vault...
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#313311 Jul 31, 2014
YANKEES 4 LIFE wrote:
<quoted text> Couldn't believe the NYY actually traded for Drew.... I’m surprised he wasn’t DFA’d..... Could a change of scenery do him some good?.... Is he an upgrade to Roberts and Johnson?.... If so then it's not that much.....
Bringing in a player who's never played a position like 2B is extreme. NYY has nothing to lose but give it a go & see what happens. Roberrs was a low rent signing,@ best. Like to see him hook up with a contender..

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