Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 60659 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33035 Dec 8, 2012
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
<quoted text>This is disgusting, we must invade China and put a stop to cheap products.
You first and tell all how that works for you. Here’s a clue stop buying their product if you’re concerned.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#33036 Dec 8, 2012
Northie wrote:
<quoted text>
So let's end the government subsidy of large SUVs and start taxing the living hell out of them instead, as sane countries do. By the way, there's a more apt name for those "brush guards"; some call them kid shredders.
And while they are at it they can also end the subsities for EV's and hybrids and tax them as well. Actually, just ended the subsities on EV's and hybrids would kill them far faster than your tax on SUVs. After all, not everyone lives in places where every road is paved or has access to public transportation and sometimes needs the capabilites of a SUV for towing a camper or a boat or plowing snow.

As for those sane countries, are they not the same ones now experiencing problems with a lack of money and a lack of a source of money. How insane things are now in those "sane" countries.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#33037 Dec 8, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Said that already 'tiny-minded anne'. Guess you don't know the difference between 'g-forces' & 'g-strings'.
G-force, the amount of gravitational force a mass experiences.

G-string, useless undergarment, a string on a musical instrument with a set pitch at 196 hertz.

Can you prove you are equally knowledgeable about how many people die in those little cars vs other cars and unmovable objects like trees?

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#33038 Dec 8, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Are you sure the dirtling isn't in your back yard? That would be its mountain hideaway for sure. The once runner up for your position of the Less than a Box of Rocks award.
Sorry, but the only mount in twenty miles is Mount Trashmore which is nothing more than a pile of dirt covering a old land fill. Which might be a good place for you to live except is is a public park.

Actually, he could stay with my family if he wants. We do have a guest bedroom and have people stay over often. Usually a child of a friend who needs someone to watch them while they are out of town.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#33040 Dec 8, 2012
Northie wrote:
So let's end the government subsidy of large SUVs and start taxing the living hell out of them instead, as sane countries do. By the way, there's a more apt name for those "brush guards"; some call them kid shredders.
I call them fenders.

Stop higher taxes, stop wasteful government spending and reform taxes and entitlements.
litesong

Everett, WA

#33041 Dec 8, 2012
tina anne wrote:
Can you prove you are equally knowledgeable about how many people die in those little cars vs other cars and unmovable objects like trees?
Even when americans didn't care about safety(they pretend now), they drove big cars that isolated people from the road & the environment around them. Never did understand.
Actual car enthusiasts love driving vehicles that let them feel like they belong to the planet. Of course, the greatest example are the motorcycle riders. When I was riding, loved the harmony & vitality the land gave to me.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#33042 Dec 8, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
G-force, the amount of gravitational force a mass experiences.
G-string, useless undergarment, a string on a musical instrument with a set pitch at 196 hertz.
Can you prove you are equally knowledgeable about how many people die in those little cars vs other cars and unmovable objects like trees?
g-whiz!

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#33043 Dec 8, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but the only mount in twenty miles is Mount Trashmore which is nothing more than a pile of dirt covering a old land fill. Which might be a good place for you to live except is is a public park.
Actually, he could stay with my family if he wants. We do have a guest bedroom and have people stay over often. Usually a child of a friend who needs someone to watch them while they are out of town.
I'm over in Chesapeake by the Ford plant site.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33045 Dec 8, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but the only mount in twenty miles is Mount Trashmore which is nothing more than a pile of dirt covering a old land fill. Which might be a good place for you to live except is is a public park.
Actually, he could stay with my family if he wants. We do have a guest bedroom and have people stay over often. Usually a child of a friend who needs someone to watch them while they are out of town.
My My you live next to a land fill. That explains most of your brain issues. Sorry for the child that is being watched by you. The parrents should be held for child abuse.Now go back to your land fill and suck up another dose of methane.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33048 Dec 9, 2012
Less than a Box of Rocks AKA "tina"

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#33049 Dec 10, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Even when americans didn't care about safety(they pretend now), they drove big cars that isolated people from the road & the environment around them. Never did understand.
Actual car enthusiasts love driving vehicles that let them feel like they belong to the planet. Of course, the greatest example are the motorcycle riders. When I was riding, loved the harmony & vitality the land gave to me.
Actually, people drive cars to move from one place to another. Drive from home to the store, to work. Haul materials such as groceries, wood, building supplies, and a host of other things from where they are to where they need to go.

Also many of those who ride motorcycles also have a car that cuts them off from nature for those days when nature is pouring rain or snow down in plentiful quanities.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33050 Dec 10, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, people drive cars to move from one place to another. Drive from home to the store, to work. Haul materials such as groceries, wood, building supplies, and a host of other things from where they are to where they need to go.
Also many of those who ride motorcycles also have a car that cuts them off from nature for those days when nature is pouring rain or snow down in plentiful quanities.
My My you live next to a land fill. That explains most of your brain issues. Sorry for the child that is being watched by you. The parrents should be held for child abuse.Now go back to your land fill and suck up another dose of methane.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#33051 Dec 10, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, just ended the subsities on EV's and hybrids would kill them far faster than your tax on SUVs.
Tina doesn't get it. For anyone with a business of any kind, the subsidy of huge gas-guzzling SUVs is way, way beyond that for any efficient hybrid. An SUV weighing AT LEAST 6,001 pounds qualifies for these choice tax breaks (aka subsidies):

1) Thanks to the 100 percent first-year bonus depreciation privilege, you can write off the entire business-use percentage of the cost of a new "heavy" SUV that is placed in service by December 31, 2011 and used more than 50 percent for business.(Used vehicles do not qualify.)

2) Under the Section 179 deduction privilege, you can write off up to $25,000 of the cost of a used heavy SUV that is placed in service by the end of your business tax year and used over 50 percent for business. You can then depreciate the rest of the business portion of the SUV's cost using the normal rules..

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#33052 Dec 10, 2012
Northie wrote:
Tina doesn't get it. For anyone with a business of any kind, the subsidy of huge gas-guzzling SUVs is way, way beyond that for any efficient hybrid. An SUV weighing AT LEAST 6,001 pounds qualifies for these choice tax breaks (aka subsidies): 1) Thanks to the 100 percent first-year bonus depreciation privilege, you can write off the entire business-use percentage of the cost of a new "heavy" SUV that is placed in service by December 31, 2011 and used more than 50 percent for business.(Used vehicles do not qualify.) 2) Under the Section 179 deduction privilege, you can write off up to $25,000 of the cost of a used heavy SUV that is placed in service by the end of your business tax year and used over 50 percent for business. You can then depreciate the rest of the business portion of the SUV's cost using the normal rules..
I call it a tax deductions, N. calls it subsidy; this is where we differ. The government isn't entitled to all my cash; that's not how it works.

If these are new rules for 2011, the Obama signed them into law. I think a business should be able to deduct the cost of using any vehicle for business purposes. No reason capital investments can't be depreciated.

Meantime; Obama want's to give billions more to his crony green energy pals...
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33054 Dec 10, 2012
Global warming speed dumped 12 + inches of snow in the North West.What will global cooling do next.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#33056 Dec 12, 2012
Northie wrote:
<quoted text>
Tina doesn't get it. For anyone with a business of any kind, the subsidy of huge gas-guzzling SUVs is way, way beyond that for any efficient hybrid. An SUV weighing AT LEAST 6,001 pounds qualifies for these choice tax breaks (aka subsidies):
1) Thanks to the 100 percent first-year bonus depreciation privilege, you can write off the entire business-use percentage of the cost of a new "heavy" SUV that is placed in service by December 31, 2011 and used more than 50 percent for business.(Used vehicles do not qualify.)
2) Under the Section 179 deduction privilege, you can write off up to $25,000 of the cost of a used heavy SUV that is placed in service by the end of your business tax year and used over 50 percent for business. You can then depreciate the rest of the business portion of the SUV's cost using the normal rules..
And how many hybrids are going to be used on a construction site? Used to tow a boat, trailer, or camper? The only thing a hybrid can be used for in a business is transport one or two people if one is driving. Which makes it less than practical as a taxi.

Of course if you want to end the subsidy for one then why not end them for all. Of course the fact is that farmers, construction companies and people who need something that can tow a trailer are still going to need something that can pull that trailer. Attach a plow and clear snow from a parking lot or driveway. Allow them to go off road to reach places to camp, fish, and hunt. Sorry, but a Prius isn't going to cut it.

Time to wake up and realize that you are the one who has failed to "get it". That the need for the SUVs isn't going to go away and until someone can come up with something better that hybrids are not going to cause them to disappear. Even if the subsidy for hybrids was 95% and SUVs zero.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/21/cbo-even-wi...

http://www.newsmax.com/grovernorquist/norquis...

http://www.edmunds.com/autoobserver-archive/2...

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#33057 Dec 12, 2012
PHD wrote:
Global warming speed dumped 12 + inches of snow in the North West.What will global cooling do next.
Bring back those glaciers and dump twelve feet of snow.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33058 Dec 12, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Bring back those glaciers and dump twelve feet of snow.
That would only add to your confusion. Stick with that 1 inch level you may have a better chance with your factually incorrect math.
cricket

Orlando, FL

#33059 Dec 12, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
And how many hybrids are going to be used on a construction site? Used to tow a boat, trailer, or camper? The only thing a hybrid can be used for in a business is transport one or two people if one is driving. Which makes it less than practical as a taxi.
Of course if you want to end the subsidy for one then why not end them for all. Of course the fact is that farmers, construction companies and people who need something that can tow a trailer are still going to need something that can pull that trailer. Attach a plow and clear snow from a parking lot or driveway. Allow them to go off road to reach places to camp, fish, and hunt. Sorry, but a Prius isn't going to cut it.
Time to wake up and realize that you are the one who has failed to "get it". That the need for the SUVs isn't going to go away and until someone can come up with something better that hybrids are not going to cause them to disappear. Even if the subsidy for hybrids was 95% and SUVs zero.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/21/cbo-even-wi...
http://www.newsmax.com/grovernorquist/norquis...
http://www.edmunds.com/autoobserver-archive/2...
Not to fret. The warmies have already succumbed. A LONG time ago:

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/falsepublicbeliefc...

Logic, knowledge & reason escapes them. And in the case of cc/mmcc everything, it's the real science that they relegate to myth, choosing to believe in a fairy tale and only what they are told to believe in.
:)
litesong

Everett, WA

#33060 Dec 12, 2012
tiny minded anne wrote:
The only thing a hybrid can be used for in a business is transport one or two people if one is driving. Which makes it less than practical as a taxi.
Someone call for a taxi?
http://www.google.com/search...

Of course, hybrids have much better mpg than their counterparts. However, hybrids are at their best in-city, delivering extraordinary mpg. Pollution emissions are greatly cut in cities, where pollution cuts are very much needed, for the health of children & people who live, play & work in city confines. That reason alone, make hybrids worthy. However, hybrid pollution & fuel consumption cuts are so dramatic, that businesses actually make more money with hybrids.

'tiny-minded anne' earns her name. However, beyond the tiny stretch of her mind, is her inability to get beyond her political beliefs which cause her to deliberately love to believe error, so that her political beliefs remain intact.

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