St. Joseph Hospital places ICU nurses...

St. Joseph Hospital places ICU nurses on leave

There are 149 comments on the Eureka Times Standard story from Jun 26, 2009, titled St. Joseph Hospital places ICU nurses on leave. In it, Eureka Times Standard reports that:

Four St. Joseph Hospital intensive care unit nurses and a clinical nursing supervisor have recently been placed on administrative leave, but hospital administrators are remaining tight-lipped about the reason.

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Since: Mar 09

San Jose, CA

#41 Jun 27, 2009
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Now that's funny!
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Anonymous

Santa Rosa, CA

#42 Jun 27, 2009
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? The Freedom of Information Act applies only to US Federal Government agency documents, and even then not to ongoing investigations and personnel matters.
St Joseph Hospital is a private institution and is under no obligation whatsoever to divulge details about its operation, including ongoing - or even concluded - personnel matters, unless they pertain to possible criminal activity, in which case they must inform the authorities (police, DA, etc.) but not the public.
Last time I checked "public" can mean federal, state or local government-run hospitals. The FOIA played a large role in the recent exposure of Walter Reed Hospital. Even Ca. has a Public Records Act.

"personnel matters", potential violation of labor law and placing a community in danger are all possibly interlinked. If St. Joe were a "public" Hospital a FOIA request could turn up all sorts of data, not to mention the public pressure placed upon elected representatives to investigate a public-owned hospital.

Unfortunately, all the "public" has access to are the IRS form 1099 to see what the St. Joe "mission" is and the compensation for its top executives... and the victims, of course.

Why are U.S. doctors being "protected" by immigration restrictions on foreign practitioners?

Extend the H1 Visa and let the American public chose to spend $15,000 or $500 to repair a broken arm.
golfer

Berkeley, CA

#43 Jun 27, 2009
Came down with acute abdominal pain over a year ago and was rushed to St. Joe's emergency room. Laid there in agony for almost five hours with no one doing a thing for me until my surgeon finally arrived about Noon. Man, did the recriminations ring around the room until everyone jumped and things began to happen. Was in surgery less than twenty minutes later!
tax reform

Santa Rosa, CA

#44 Jun 27, 2009
QUOTE Mark..."St Joseph Hospital is a private institution and is under no obligation whatsoever to divulge details about its operation."

Then let them pay taxes. I want to know where the millions this community forgives them is going, while they play chess with our health care dollars, providers, and patient lives.
Anonymous

Arcata, CA

#45 Jun 27, 2009
Imagine the quality of care when you feel good liberals let Obama push the health reform through.
mom

Eureka, CA

#46 Jun 27, 2009
This doesn't have anything to do with this story, just a tidbit i thought I'd share. The health insurance that employees of The Sisters are covered under will not pay for vasectomies or tubal ligation, because they are Catholic hospitals. To me, that doesn't seem right.
ICU RN REDDING

Eureka, CA

#47 Jun 27, 2009
Wish we knew the real story. I do know that RMH and St. Joe's has some incompetent Nurse Managers.
I witness this and chose not to work for St. Joe's Health care anymore. Seems to be a lot of
"coverups" in the Catholic Hospitals.

Hopefully, the public wil learn what really happened. Not much of a story from TS

Mom #46 is correct, birth control is NOT covered and is unfair. I can tell you that tubal ligations and abortions were performed at RMH. I know, I was the nurse. It to, was covered up.
piggy wiggly

Buena Park, CA

#48 Jun 27, 2009
The nurses at St. Joseph were placed on administrative leave without pay until the California Nurses Union which St. Joseph's nurses belong to stepped in and had to remind the administration that it was illegal to do so. Now these nurses are on a paid leave pending investigation. According to an unnamed source that works at St. Joe in the ICU, these nurses were placed on leave pending investigation of "behavior" issues. This source also stated that Melvin Selinger's termination has no relationship to the four nurses on administrative leave. This source stated that the ICU has not been managed appropriately for years and that the night crew were doing things they way they wanted to do them for years and that this behaviors needed evaluation.
ICU RN REDDING

Eureka, CA

#49 Jun 27, 2009
Yes, I can believe that it was a behavior issue and that the Nurse Manager allowed it. I believe that both St. Joe's and RMH ICU has not been managed appropriately for years! Time to get new Nurse Managers in these unites. Piggy wiggly is right on.
WoZ

Los Altos, CA

#50 Jun 28, 2009
Wow, with so many self proclaimed experts in almost any field, it amazes me that they have any time to spend on forums, when they could be out saving us all from the evils they find everywhere.
Mom

Fruitland, ID

#51 Jun 28, 2009
It took them forever to get rid of a wacked-out lab manager. They finally escorted her off the property, but not before losing some good employees.
The lab manager before that was good, but they lost him. And the lab manager before him was a liar, never at work, only knew about wine, women and fishing. St. Joes has not been run right since Pete Kriger and Chris Burton left.
been there done that

Santa Rosa, CA

#52 Jun 28, 2009
"Imagine the quality of care when you feel good liberals let Obama push the health reform through."
BRING IT ON. I bet you have not lived under socialized medicine, which is so much better than our system. Health care is so broken, it needs a total revamp. The current system of profit is so corrupt it is frightening. Profit drives decisions. Give us a choice, and I bet most of us go with the government system.
It is not unlike the mortician. When a patient is sick, they will pay anything to get well. Easy target, easy sale. "Money is no issue". A profiteers dream. So many patients come out of the hospital feeling "saved" and don't realize how much profit was skimmed at their expense. Gullible, vulnerable, unregulated.
Bring it on, Obama!
Mole Patrol

AOL

#53 Jun 28, 2009
Domino 21 wrote:
OK, here is the proverbial dose of cold water. By Law we cannot know what the reason for their suspension. But they are almost certainly part of a union that will protect them against anything. CNA and the other Nurses unions are in place for a single reason. To ensure that their clients get paid very well. Your health as a patient is tertiery at best. Doc must be paid, Nurse must be paid, and facility must be paid, and when that fails to happen.
I Have a wonderful Idea. Lets send anyone that plays games with health care to Venezuela and have them learn the tricks.
Your hatred of unions prevents you from expressing ideas on this subject that better educated, more experienced, and more rational people can respect. Once you get worked up emotionally, you throw facts and evidence out the window and you start inventing "facts" to support your otherwise insupportable arguments.

FYI, unions often work on behalf of patients and customers. They recognise that excellent service given to patients and customers is the key to the success of the organization and the individuals who work within it.
Thirsty 77

Eureka, CA

#54 Jun 28, 2009
Hey, let's stay on point.

What the hell happened in that ICU that was SO BAD that they have put all these people on administrative leave? Hmmmm.....
Yes

United States

#55 Jun 28, 2009
Thirsty 77 wrote:
Hey, let's stay on point.
What the hell happened in that ICU that was SO BAD that they have put all these people on administrative leave? Hmmmm.....
We all want to know what happened because that is a lot of important people to put off all at one time.
Its the ERs fault

Seaside, CA

#56 Jun 28, 2009
golfer wrote:
Came down with acute abdominal pain over a year ago and was rushed to St. Joe's emergency room. Laid there in agony for almost five hours with no one doing a thing for me until my surgeon finally arrived about Noon. Man, did the recriminations ring around the room until everyone jumped and things began to happen. Was in surgery less than twenty minutes later!
Funny how everyone who goes to the ER for care is an expert in how the whole hospital works... Wonder when your doctor was called and how many were in the surgery before you got there. Gotta wonder how many patients your surgeon saw before you in his office, and yes, everyone jumps to when the surgeon walks in, cause God forbid the surgeon should have to wait five hours for something they want to do now!(Oh ya, so they can make their rounds and get home...) Everyone thinks they are the only one needing care... never, ever does the ER want you to LAY around the ER especially when you need to be in surgery. Get a grip and grow up everyone! You are not always the sickest in the ER and especially someone who can complain about their care, gotta wonder if they need to be there in the first place.
ICU RN REDDING

Eureka, CA

#57 Jun 28, 2009
Thirsty 77 wrote:
Hey, let's stay on point.
What the hell happened in that ICU that was SO BAD that they have put all these people on administrative leave? Hmmmm.....
We are all in for a SHOCK!

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#58 Jun 29, 2009
tax reform wrote:
QUOTE Mark..."St Joseph Hospital is a private institution and is under no obligation whatsoever to divulge details about its operation."
Then let them pay taxes. I want to know where the millions this community forgives them is going, while they play chess with our health care dollars, providers, and patient lives.
They do pay taxes slick. Why would you think they don't.

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#59 Jun 29, 2009
Mole Patrol wrote:
<quoted text>
Your hatred of unions prevents you from expressing ideas on this subject that better educated, more experienced, and more rational people can respect. Once you get worked up emotionally, you throw facts and evidence out the window and you start inventing "facts" to support your otherwise insupportable arguments.
FYI, unions often work on behalf of patients and customers. They recognise that excellent service given to patients and customers is the key to the success of the organization and the individuals who work within it.
No unions are scum, that inhibits worker production, and creates a beehive mentality among the workers. Forget about individual initiative if a union is on board.
guess again

Santa Rosa, CA

#60 Jun 29, 2009
"They do pay taxes slick. Why would you think they don't."

St. Joseph is a non-profit organization. It takes its money and puts it where it chooses.

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