Physiotherapists are not doctors: MCI

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Stern warning to those using the 'Doctor' prefix; rule being flouted by 90 p.c. of physiotherapists working in Delhi 'Private hospitals are listing physiotherapists as doctors misleading the general population' ...
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vikas kairon

Delhi, India

#1802 Oct 12, 2012
i m student of physiotherapy ..jaipur.we r use prefix dr.before name.i read rich syllabus in all medical sub.we are independent to diagnosis and treatment of pt. mci know research deeply what physiotherapy.
Anonymous

Suva, Fiji

#1803 Oct 17, 2012
My dear medical professionals....please stop fighting over the title. The important thing is patient care/management and it is a MULTIDISCIPLINARY effort. A Physician cannot say that he/she can treat the patient fully...they need the help of Pharmacist, radiologist/radiographer, Lab-technician, Pathologist, Anaesthetist and ofcourse physiotherapist.
It makes me so sad to see lot of controversies compared to here(In Fiji), where everyone works as a team.
My intention is not to look at anyone inferiorly but to HIGHLIGHT what is best for the patient.
Please try to maintain professionalism and not think superficially......we all are equal and cannot function alone
Thanks
Kamal

Kannur, India

#1804 Oct 17, 2012
physios and physicians stop fighting. health for all is our concern.who cares for dr titles?
resham

Faridabad, India

#1805 Oct 23, 2012
Dr Aash wrote:
These physiotherapy persons are "specialized massage persons” working for most of our orthopedic surgeons.
From all above quoted thoughts, the frustration of the physiotherapy profession is very clear.
One is writing that “MBBS are useless, physiotherapy is itself specialization”.
Dear when there will be a qualification, only after that there will be a specialization. The condition of physiotherapy is very bad. A lots of institutes are flourishing these days, distributing degree of BPT in just for money. In regular batch exams, the institutions are indulged in cheating, dictating answers to the students.
There is no council or any other body to control & regulate the physiotherapy education. They have very scanty knowledge of human body and its functioning.
I personally found a lot of physiotherapy faculty (both BPT & MPT) from very reputed institutions having a lack of very basic knowledge of anatomy & physiology.
In the nutshell, there is no doubt that the doctor prefix should strictly be awarded according the Indian constitution to the persons registered under the Medical Council Act.
Only a non-medical person can say that we do not follow the Medical Council.
Dr.aash
By ur coment u r shwng physios r hvng lack f medical knowledge n all, bt u aren't abl2 prove dt patients dnt need physiotherapy. Which is infact d most imprtnt aspectof al dis arguement dt wethr patients need physio trtmnt or nt, der r several conditions which can't b mangd by medicine alone and vice a versa , so if question s f physio's knowledge, der shal b a council to regulate physio studies n der practice too rathr den degrading the field v shud try to upgrade it for betterment of patients
zinc

Hooghly, India

#1806 Oct 24, 2012
Prabu wrote:
<quoted text>
dear, you have made a big mistake. one day your going to realize the physiotherapy and its important........
yes dear u dont knw the importance u r such a loser
zinc

Hooghly, India

#1807 Oct 24, 2012
by the way PT's dont use medicine we heal people by our own hand its not like giving some medicine (like the mbbs does) especially pain killers and healing that pain for few days.... okay pain's gone but what about the other side effects which it causes.... well THE SO CALLED DOCS treat patient and they are healed but at the end of the day it physiotherapist who help them to rehabilitate... well do u need some more'''''
Ashwin Sundar

Suva, Fiji

#1808 Oct 27, 2012
my dear phsiotherapy colleagues, I as a medical student(yr 5) was attached (last wk) to physiotherapy dept for my 1 wk speciality rotation.
I did learn a lot and yes drugs/medications are not always the cure bt we cannot deny the fact that we need proper diagnosis and referal(by doctors) to physiotherapy when required.
we should not also forget that treatment varies upon diagnosis and from px to px. for eg. we wud need antibiotics for UTI or we will need amputation in case of Diabetic foot sepsis(Wagners grade 5),right? phsiotheraphy alone will kill the px but after surgery it would be the main form of tx-to get the px out of bed as soon as possible and to get the px to function properly.
everyone has a role in the field of medicine and should respect every1, not forgeting that treating the patient is our primary goal.
I suggest u guys know where u stand and how competent u r. it doesnt make any difference wat others say.
These days some/new doctors dont realise the importance of physiotherapy. I didnt nor wud hav if not attached to this dept.
My physiotherapy lecturer(a phsiotherapist by profession) was very competent and used to respect doctors and their views always bt also questions if/when required
Hopefully, the fight amongst the doctors and physios stops here.
I would suggest the admins to have this forum/discussion closed!
Thanks alot
aisha

Sialkot, Pakistan

#1809 Oct 27, 2012
physiotherapy is most growing profession in coming years.its doctor of physiotherapy.
its now 4th most growing and highly paid profession now.
reality is reality. be positive
for all who are disagree
naveen

Chennai, India

#1810 Oct 30, 2012
i am a physiotherapy student physiotherapist are also doctors they work a lot to make a patient recover.so plz i request MCI to announce that physiotherapist are doctors................
uday

Mumbai, India

#1811 Oct 31, 2012
reena wrote:
no they cant,if then lab tech can also write dr
yes...you are right reena..pts can do out side body only not they cant do inside body...so
arun

Chennai, India

#1812 Nov 2, 2012
that is absolutely nonsense you idiot radiologist can only diagnose but physio can treat the patient
MBBS GUY

Kannur, India

#1813 Nov 7, 2012
Ha Ha what to say about the profound stupidity of these physiotherapists!!!! Trying to be doctors....hahahaha
manish kumar singh

New Delhi, India

#1814 Nov 14, 2012
PHYSIOTHERAPIST MEANS BHAUTIK CHIKITSAK IN HNDI and in English we call doctors -CHIKITSAK so Physiotherapist are naturally Doctors.
Carmen

Johannesburg, South Africa

#1815 Nov 17, 2012
In South Africa we have the same problem trying to prove our worth. Everyone that has ever had musculo-skeletal pain will tell you it can ruin your life. Medication just covers up the cause or the root of the pain. As first line practitioners, we diagnose the problem and treat it with electro-therapy, manual therapy and exercise therapy. It is an intense rehabilitation that is specifically designed to treat every patient's unique problem or complaint. I have seen so many patients who have been seen by a docter and who have received an incorrect diagnosis which I had to diagnose and treat correctly. With that I am not saying the docter is making the wrong diagnosis. I am saying that a patient is best managed by a team of expertise. What people still struggle to realize even though it has been repeated over and over again in this discussion is that we are not saying we are better in treating pain. We are specialist, but we are all specialists in our own field. A patient is better off managed by a team for many reasons including to heal as quickly as possible in order to prevent disability and prevent economic implications for the patients themselves and for the government. Why are people struggling so much to accept the expertise of physiotherapists? It truely is sad. The Health Professionals Council of South Africa is now in the process of getting dispensing licenses for physiotherapists to administer and prescribe medication. Something that honestly bugs me is the title of doctor given to dentists. They are restricted to the head only so I truely do not know why they have been given the title and the enormous salaries. I think the huge problem is lack of education. Even many doctors do not know what we do. Or what any of the other professionals do like occupational and speech therapists and they refuse to be questioned if they are wrong even if they are wrong. Patients die and become disabled because doctors are egocentric and arrogant and ignorant enough to believe they are superior in the management of patients health. It is almost like they think other health professionals have studied a two month course to do what we do. Most of them are very suprised when they enquire and actually find out what we do. An obs and gynae specialist told doctors in a ward round a month ago he was very ignorant about other health professions and thought he knew it all until he found out he actually knows very little. Our admission requirements are the same MBchb (medicine) in South Africa. So if the admission requirements are so high? Does it make sense to think we cannot diagnose and treat? It has been said before and I will say it again. We all diagnose, but our treatment is different. No doctor can do my work. People globally are now starting to wake up to the roll of physiotherapists, occupational therapists and speech therapists and their role in preventing disability. World health can improve so much more if people just get a wake up call. It is not about you or me, it is about improving quality of life of our countries. If people are doctors in their own right then let them be and stop being insecure, arrogant and ignorant. You are preventing a dignified human being a quality life with your ignorance. If you do not know what a physiotherapist does or think it is about massage, I strongly suggest you do some research. Someone mentioned us as being the laughing stock. Maybe we are the laughing stock amongst people that know just as little as you, but once you are surrounded by people, including other doctors and consultants that actually know the truth, you will sadly realize that you will be the laughing stock.
gandi

Mumbai, India

#1816 Nov 19, 2012
anju bai aur surender dhalla in jp city
omprakash

Pune, India

#1817 Nov 29, 2012
yah..!!! I read the all the statements givn there..but being a medical profeesional we she shld nt make conversation..in every profession every one has thr own respct..i too a physio studnt frm hyd..mbbs studnt also studies for 4nd half yr..n bds also..n bpt too 4nd half yr..no difference..in them so mci should recognise bpt students also as doctors....tanq
indian

New Delhi, India

#1818 Dec 1, 2012
MBBS GUY wrote:
Ha Ha what to say about the profound stupidity of these physiotherapists!!!! Trying to be doctors....hahahaha
tu bpt walo ki tatti kha aur bpt walen mbbs walom ki tatti khae aapas mein gaand mara rahe ho aur patient ki gand baj rahi hain haramkhorom desh ki maa chod di hain tum lngon ne apni ladai ke peeche hatttt
neetu

Mumbai, India

#1819 Dec 2, 2012
Dr jaan pg mspt usa wrote:
Hello Mr saravanan ..
what you are talking about?MCI..the council who receives crores from pepsi, caca cola and horlicks,,and certifies their products are good for health..getting crores for recognisation of medical colleges..
how this kind of a council can say like physiotherapists are not doctors...you says horlicks helps for growing tall,and pepsi is good for digestion..i consider MCI s comment like the same..
If you are a MBBS passed out person please try to dissmiss your council..
Regards Dr jaan from USA


totally agreed sir
physiopratishtha

Ambala, India

#1820 Dec 3, 2012
Saravan wrote:
Better you improve your knowledge, all radiologists and anesthesiologists are physicians all across the world,If you guys are so knowledgeble why cann't you study MBBS and practice medicine?, i think physiotherapists in India are in foolish world, they did not get admission for MBBS after 12th, so now wants to overcome that inferiority complexity by affixing Dr .
Mr Shravan, a doctor is someone who teaches and has the doctorate degree, so go and check the dictionaries first and then talk about it.
righteous

Jalandhar, India

#1821 Dec 18, 2012
Fully in agreement with you Sir
Saravan wrote:
Yes, of course physiotherapists are not doctors but one of the paramedics work with doctors. This kind of warning from medical bodies required in countries like india where one can purchase whatever they want including affix of "Dr", this is what physiotherapists have done, they have purchased indian politicians for lobby and law makers are breaking the same laws which they have made in parliment. Only god has to save this country.

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