Physiotherapists are not doctors: MCI

Physiotherapists are not doctors: MCI

There are 1865 comments on the The Hindu story from Apr 5, 2008, titled Physiotherapists are not doctors: MCI. In it, The Hindu reports that:

Stern warning to those using the 'Doctor' prefix; rule being flouted by 90 p.c. of physiotherapists working in Delhi 'Private hospitals are listing physiotherapists as doctors misleading the general population' ...

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Dr Samarth suryavanshi

Bhopal, India

#46 May 17, 2008
Its very panic to hear comments from MCI , the books they read in that there is clearly stated PHYSIOTHERAPY tratment in various disease as primary treatment and compulsory treatment , so they should respect the treatment they prescribe. Either every medical practioner stop giving physiotherapy or they should promote PHYSIOTHEAPY. Its a need to society for betterment and primary treatment. Its a natural process which helps in better recovery of patient. We all physios agree that medicine play important role bt Physiotherapy plays a very important role in every aspect of disease. Promotion of physiotherapy will create new dimention in feild of medicine and will create miracle and enable healthy life all over.
Thanks all colleages and other respected professionals come toghether and go for betterment and accept new advances in feild of medical science.
uday maharastra

Kolkata, India

#47 May 18, 2008
Don’t know, what hell going on. I d couldn’t understand , why Physiotherapist can not affix 'Dr' title.
Actually, MBBS are getting scared, bcoz, most of the MBBS doctor knows there abilities, they are simply purchased by medicine companies, pathological laboratories and other diagnostic centers at there locality. They simply scared for the taking share of cream from them. ha ha ha ha.
So far my knowledge goes, according to GMC and USMLE , a simple medical gradate (equivalent to MBBS) can not affix 'dr' title until they procure MD or any doctoral program.
Then why Indian MBBS affixing the title 'dr' when there god father ( GMC & US )following the rules not affixing the '"Dr" title before any doctoral degree?
so far my knowledge goes, if seriously maintains physiotherapy syllabus and traing properly, i am sure, an mbbs doctor can not beat any physiotherapist in any form of knowledge or diagnostic skills.
its a 4 and 1/2 yrs course, not a mater of jokes, there is full syllabus of anatomy , physiology, biochemistry, pathology , microbiology, clinical methods which are equivalent to mbbs syllabus and some where more advanced then the homeopathy and ayurveda system. these subjects are main back bone of any medical education.
so what the problems with the physiotherapist to pay them honor and status.?
why MCI doing nasty game? why they paid much more interest to oppose the physiotherapist to get the special status and prescribing right?
MCI should know the real fact, the GMC ( general medical council, UK) which is god father of the MCI, not opposed physiotherapist for there method of training and prescribing medicine, the out come of the result is formed separate body for the physiotherapist and they got right to prescribe medicine in appropriate case. SEE:http://www.csp.org.uk/uplo ads/documents/csp_physioprac_p a58.pdf. or http://209.85.175.104/search?q =cache:BLLu_TXQR_QJ:www.csp.or g.uk/uploads/documents/csp_phy sioprac_pa58.pdf+is+physiother apist+can+prescribe+medicine%3 F&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd =1.
is General medical council, UK , there government health authorities inferior then MCI and our government health authorities?
actually MCI cadres are fully insecure. they fear for their future, they scared for there secret and musk, they are dominated by the medicine company, diagnostic centre, and some where institutional comission in the name of profit share, they are getting money from them even they used to get " Wine nd Whiskey" party every weekend day.
( But still there is very few numbers of MBBS doctor still exist in our society, they served for the society and nations without any vested interest, i salute them only)
Here is one solution for health authorities, that, authority may order for all physiotherapist that, " they can procures prescribing right after the "licensing exam" which is specially designed by expert authorities.
success therapist will get practicing registration number as like as china MBBS and other Foreign MBBS taking the opportunities.
( For your kind information , china's , Russia’s medical graduate are not competent enough. even they are not competent to compete with our indian physiotherapist, I can challenge it.)
So whats problems with physiotherapist?
Dr Gopinath PT

UAE

#49 May 20, 2008
Mr.Saravanan, What do u know about Physiotherapist knowledge and Power, I dont think you r a medical profession, becose all medical professions know how to respect their coleges.
Saravan wrote:
Better you improve your knowledge, all radiologists and anesthesiologists are physicians all across the world,If you guys are so knowledgeble why cann't you study MBBS and practice medicine?, i think physiotherapists in India are in foolish world, they did not get admission for MBBS after 12th, so now wants to overcome that inferiority complexity by affixing Dr .
Dr Aashish Sharma

Bhusawal, India

#51 May 20, 2008
Well the forum is certainly heated up with some debatable sayings...
I am an 2nd PG in MS Orthopaedics Indore MGM ; and I find absolutely no problem with Physiotherapists prefixing "Dr" as long as the Physio is knowledgeable. I disagree for Physios affixing "dr" who are good for none and they have an very poor knowledge. I remember once in a private setup I diagnosed a patient with rotator cuff tendinitis and referred it to a physio. And to my surprise i was shocked that he didnt even knew the muscles of rotator cuff !
CAN THESE PHYSIOS CLAIM THEMSELVES AS "Dr" ???
No way i feel, apart from the physios who have passed from a good renowned Physiotherapy/Medical school !
Dr Aash

New Delhi, India

#52 May 20, 2008
These physiotherapy persons are "specialized massage persons” working for most of our orthopedic surgeons.
From all above quoted thoughts, the frustration of the physiotherapy profession is very clear.
One is writing that “MBBS are useless, physiotherapy is itself specialization”.
Dear when there will be a qualification, only after that there will be a specialization. The condition of physiotherapy is very bad. A lots of institutes are flourishing these days, distributing degree of BPT in just for money. In regular batch exams, the institutions are indulged in cheating, dictating answers to the students.
There is no council or any other body to control & regulate the physiotherapy education. They have very scanty knowledge of human body and its functioning.
I personally found a lot of physiotherapy faculty (both BPT & MPT) from very reputed institutions having a lack of very basic knowledge of anatomy & physiology.
In the nutshell, there is no doubt that the doctor prefix should strictly be awarded according the Indian constitution to the persons registered under the Medical Council Act.
Only a non-medical person can say that we do not follow the Medical Council.
Harginder Sethi

Delhi, India

#53 May 20, 2008
My dear,

Paramedical discipline Radiography itself is more than 113 years old, two times older than physiotherapy, incidently no where in the world radiographers call themselves as doctors or radiography as separate system of medicine (Like the claim physiotherapists are making as Physiotherapeutic system of medicine).
Ravi Rathore wrote:
Physiotherapy course n profn. can't b clubbed wid another course.
Physiotherapy" means physiotherapeutic system of
medicine which includes examination, treatment, advice
and instructions to any person preparatory to or for
the purpose of or in connection with movement
dysfunction, bodily malfunction, physical disorder,
disability, healing and pain from trauma and disease,
physical and mental conditions using physical agents
including exercise, mobilization, manipulation,
mechanical and electrotherapy, activity and devices or
diagnosis, treatment and prevention.
So Physio's r definitly doctors n very respectfull profn.
poonam kotwal

Malappuram, India

#54 May 21, 2008
i'm a student of physiotherapy from jammu university,i'm doing my internship n i have decided to do masters in this field,we have read all the subjects which are taught to be in mbbs n we read our subjects too,than why mci do not consider us doctors,i'm not agree with mci statement.
Harginder Sethi

Delhi, India

#56 May 21, 2008
What bigger stuff do you have to study which is not there in Orthopedics, Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation and Neurology?
misha wrote:
<quoted text>For the kind information we physios have no need to do MBBS as we have a rich sallabus which includes all the subjects which a medicine graduate studies ,not only that we have highly specialized subjects like biomechanics, exercise therapy , electrotherapy .We have specializations like sports P.T, orthopaedics P.T, cardiovascular P.T, neurological P.T, gynecology P.T .We have a four and a half years graduation course ,a 2 years Masters degree and PHD offered by reputed universities like Delhi University,Rajeev Gandhi Health University ,MDU etc.kKindly broaden your narrow thought process and do not give such stupid remarks like you have given . We are proud of ourselves as Physios and we have given complex to other Medical professionals as we have the power to heal without using drugs and surgeries.Please have the gutts to accept new things ,our's is a new science which is upcomming.We can assess, diagnose and give treatment therefore we have full rigth of being called a Doctor.
Harginder Sethi

Delhi, India

#57 May 21, 2008
Physiotherapists should first know for what purpose they have been trained and have been developed in the last 60 years(To assist medical specialists in the rehabilitation of patients). Nursing is a nobel profession all over the world and this was the backbone of physiotherapy during the world wars, but they never claim for 'Dr' title, rather proud of their profession. Even a athletic trainer calls himself as athletic trainer, massage therapist calls himself as massage therapist, why such complexity for physiotherapists?
Dr Rohit Chauhan MD

Dewas, India

#58 May 21, 2008
Physiotherapists are doctor of physical therapy (physiotherapy) as my younger sister is doing this course but i too disagree them prefixing "dr". The title shouldnt be used in hospital listings but they can do else where...just like an ph.d in english/ or any other stream would do !

BUT PLEASE NOT IN HOSPITALS
rajesh physiotherapist

Tanuku, India

#59 May 22, 2008
hello
i am student of physio the first and the formost thing, the course is mentioned for 41/2 years but we students r studying it fir 5 years we hav to wait for results it will come after 1month and there is always more than one month gap between theory and practicals this is too much if we r studying for 5 yeras so plz mention it or complete the course in 41/2 years is there anyone to listen this??

after doing so much of hard work we r just provided 2000 rs we diagnose and treat the patients so we r doctors
actucally mbbs r jealous of this profession bcoz physios r increasing in demand.

and also the physio salary shd also be raised
pacific physio

New Delhi, India

#60 May 23, 2008
hot arguement ,patient decides who is a doctor?for a lay man every person in the hospital ,even a person advising on any aspect is a doctor.
no MCI or RCI can resist a patient calling his physiotherapist doctor,coz they knew that .extended scope physiotherapy has to be considered in coming to these aspects, consultatnts .even in dreams never a medico can decome a physio nor a physio becomes a medico.if so called dr saravan suffers from a condition that has to be treated by a physio hope he will realise the role rather than commenting.
a medico must know what is a physio and what is physios limitation.
clinical condition is the same for all the person involved in health care
physiotherapy is a vast ocean it cant be commented just like that
the term paramedic diifers from the word physiotherapist
MBBS MEANS BACHELOR OF MEDICINE AND BACHELOR OF SURGERY
BPT MEANS BACHELOR OF PHYSIOTHERAPY
WHO GAVE YOU DOCTRATE?
SENTHIL

New Delhi, India

#61 May 23, 2008
doctors of physical therapy, recognized by consumers and other health care professionals as the practitioners of choice to whom consumers have direct access for the diagnosis of, interventions for, and prevention of impairments, functional limitations, and disabilities related to movement, function, and health.
drsunil singh mpt

Bangalore, India

#63 May 23, 2008
Well freinds i feel mci is nobody to judge wether a physiotherpist is a doctor or not..mci is a council for mbbs and md that means medicine.. so i would say better mind there own business. they think only there r concern with the public and patients. i dont knw how many doctors(mbbs-md) knows what the curriculum or sylabi a physiotherpist studies, and the scope to which physiotherpist can intervene in each specailty... moreover physiotherpy council will decide this issue created by mci not the mci..so mci mind your business.physiotherpists are doctors.
drsunil singh mpt

Bangalore, India

#64 May 23, 2008
Harginder Sethi wrote:
What bigger stuff do you have to study which is not there in Orthopedics, Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation and Neurology?
<quoted text>
sir, i guess you are a doctor urself and know all the subjects of the same... but your replyu is nonsense. how much of biomechanics do you study in orthopedics or neurology or in any medical subjects? why just biomechanics therapeutic exercises itself is a specialised subject. if you are really interested ijnh knowing go and search for the physiotherpy sylaabus in your library..
drsunil singh mpt

Bangalore, India

#65 May 23, 2008
Dr Aashish Sharma wrote:
Well the forum is certainly heated up with some debatable sayings...
I am an 2nd PG in MS Orthopaedics Indore MGM ; and I find absolutely no problem with Physiotherapists prefixing "Dr" as long as the Physio is knowledgeable. I disagree for Physios affixing "dr" who are good for none and they have an very poor knowledge. I remember once in a private setup I diagnosed a patient with rotator cuff tendinitis and referred it to a physio. And to my surprise i was shocked that he didnt even knew the muscles of rotator cuff !
CAN THESE PHYSIOS CLAIM THEMSELVES AS "Dr" ???
No way i feel, apart from the physios who have passed from a good renowned Physiotherapy/Medical school !
doctor sharma i am a physio specialised in cardiorespiratory and icu... jus like u i will share an experience.. i was treating a patient with brachial plexus injury who lost his shoulder movements. there was this duty doctor who came to me and asked me to show him shoulder abduction as he was not sure whats abduction... now what will you call him. do you think all doctors knw the basics welll. sir there are such kinda pple in all the professions not just in physiotherapy.
DR SABRINA

Degaon, India

#66 May 23, 2008
LISTEN MR...WAT DO U THINK ABT YR BLOODY SHIT MBBS PROF....STOP BLAMING PHYSIOS YAAR....GROW UP N CME OUT OF THE SHELL U ALL MBBS R IN...SEE THE TRUTH N FACE IT...N MIND IT THINK BEFORE U SPEAK DUDE.....THATS A PIECE OF SHIT WHICH U WROTE...I TOTALLY DISOWN IT....
Dr Aashish Sharma

Indore, India

#67 May 23, 2008
I cant help you guys with your frustrations...

No where in the world I see a physio writng "dr" before his name. I've heard about the AAPT & their vision for 2020; but its too far now !

Physios are infact next to Nurses ! They originally developed from nurses, so they should realize what they actually are !

They cannot be given such great honour.

Physios arent anywhere near to standards of an medical student.
Thilaka

Bristol, UK

#69 May 25, 2008
mr neeraj...,wats wroong with u..here the concept s about profession and skills,not the people's character or attitude. Raping, murdering,stealing its all one person's own instinct character,u cannot link tat with their profession,if its so,then u hav to link it with tat fellow's caste,community,colleg,school name,even his birth place..so dont be too childish by pretending lik smart..moreover sice becos u got this rape issue with our profession,im asking u one question..."do u know tat no mbbs,bds,(so called doctors..) havnt done any criminal works n their life..shall i post all the updated press records of criminal and nasty sexy work of doctors with nurses..its a common one tat world knows abt tat doctors,,small example..dont u know tat blasted sex issue of DR PRAKASH n south india,he used to tak all porn photos of his female patient and has been arrested for 13 yrs prison life..so Mr Neeraj sab,try to compete with ur own skills and we appreciate u but not n this way...got it! since becos u cant even understand or differentiate between psychological issues and professional skills...we damn sure u r not a doctor...

Neeraj goel
Ranjan, India Reply »
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This is what a physiotherapist can do in india !

Physiotherapist arrested for attempted rape of nurse

Ghaziabad, April 1 (IANS) The Ghaziabad police arrested a physiotherapist for attempting to rape a staff nurse working at his physiotherapy centre. Circle Officer C.P. Singh said the Kavi Nagar police received a complaint from the staff nurse of Nirog Prakruatik Chikitsa Kendra at Kavi Nagar.
In the complaint, the staff nurse said she joined the centre a week back. The owner and the physiotherapist, Pramod Vajpayee used to call her in his chamber on one pretext or the other.
Vajpayee called her Saturday in the chamber and attempted to rape her but she managed to escape and went to the police station.
The police arrested the physiotherapist Saturday and conducted the medical examination of the victim at the government district hospital
Thilaka

Bristol, UK

#70 May 25, 2008
mr neeraj...,wats wroong with u..here the concept s about profession and skills,not the people's character or attitude. Raping, murdering,stealing its all one person's own instinct character,u cannot link tat with their profession,if its so,then u hav to link it with tat fellow's caste,community,colleg,school name,even his birth place..so dont be too childish by pretending lik smart..moreover since becos u got this rape issue with our profession,im asking u one question..."do u know tat no mbbs,bds,(so called doctors..) havnt done any criminal works n their life..shall i post all the updated press records of criminal and nasty sexy work of doctors with nurses..its a common one tat world knows abt tat doctors,,small example..dont u know tat blasted sex issue of DR PRAKASH n south india,he used to tak all porn photos of his female patient and has been arrested for 13 yrs prison life..so Mr Neeraj sab,try to compete with ur own skills and we appreciate u but not n this way...got it! since becos u cant even understand or differentiate between psychological issues and professional skills...we damn sure u r not a doctor...
Neeraj goel wrote:
This is what a physiotherapist can do in india !
Physiotherapist arrested for attempted rape of nurse
Ghaziabad, April 1 (IANS) The Ghaziabad police arrested a physiotherapist for attempting to rape a staff nurse working at his physiotherapy centre. Circle Officer C.P. Singh said the Kavi Nagar police received a complaint from the staff nurse of Nirog Prakruatik Chikitsa Kendra at Kavi Nagar.
In the complaint, the staff nurse said she joined the centre a week back. The owner and the physiotherapist, Pramod Vajpayee used to call her in his chamber on one pretext or the other.
Vajpayee called her Saturday in the chamber and attempted to rape her but she managed to escape and went to the police station.
The police arrested the physiotherapist Saturday and conducted the medical examination of the victim at the government district hospital.

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