Dalton's Hamilton Medical Center anno...

Dalton's Hamilton Medical Center announces layoffs

There are 104 comments on the The Chattanooga Times Free Press story from Oct 26, 2010, titled Dalton's Hamilton Medical Center announces layoffs. In it, The Chattanooga Times Free Press reports that:

Hamilton Health Care System in Dalton, Ga., is eliminating about 140 positions as part of an effort to cut $12 million from its budget, officials said Tuesday.

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not so

Maryville, TN

#21 Oct 27, 2010
whatever wrote:
Dear smart guy,
Whoever told you there is only one nurse on the floor is wrong. We have a 1:4 to a 1:5 ratio. Some of the upper manangement that was let go made over $500,000 a year...That is rediculious! I feel it was a much needed reshuffle of management.
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mrnoname

Dalton, GA

#22 Oct 27, 2010
Good Ben wrote:
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The one Ben picked up few years ago while he was working? You scratch ... I scratch policy
I am not sure the point that you are trying to get across here.
dark horsey

Maryville, TN

#23 Oct 27, 2010
mrnoname wrote:
<quoted text>I am not sure the point that you are trying to get across here.
Noland

Maryville, TN

#24 Oct 27, 2010
Whoopie wrote:
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I agree! Michelle is an amazing person. She spoke at our pinning ceremony at DSC - she is the person I want to be when I grow up. If HMC is getting rid of people like her...who wants to stay? Jeff Meyers is an idiot! Talk about being blind and dumb!
Are we talking about the same Michelle? How about Cruse and Jamie they still there?
Cleophus

Ashburn, VA

#25 Oct 28, 2010
It all be Obama's fault.

Since: Aug 09

United States

#26 Oct 28, 2010
brer rabbit wrote:
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This thread is confusing. Are the alleged "500k administrators" carpet mill employees or hospital employees?
$500k/yr administrators were the directors and COO of Hamilton Medical center that were fired.
Daltonman

Dalton, GA

#27 Oct 28, 2010
hmmm wrote:
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Does anyone remenber that Jeff Myers the CEO of Hamilton used to be the CEO of Alliant. Now it seems to me that would be a conflict of interest in almost any other job. You think he's not swayed in his decisions by his past job, his investments, the investments of his bosses, Doctors. ect. Yeah,I bet he's really trying hard to accept other insurance providers at HMC. Not accepting ALL insurance is like standing at the door and telling your customers no thanks, we don't need your business. The only people this helps is the Investors of Alliant. Like the comment about Murray Med, Cntr. Something like 3/4 of the county is going out of county for health care. Well Duh, as much as I would like to use my hometown hospital. I'm not going to spend out of pocket to do so. The other thing that bothers me is the fact that a outside person "consultant", a mear book author,was hired to advise Hamilton on how to run a Hospital. If this is the case then what in the Hell is Jeff Myers job?, He's the CEO. He's the one that created all of these unnecessary positions that are now being elimated. If he can't run this place then get rid of him. The Late Norman Burkett would be ashamed of what is happening at HMC.Mr. Burkett was a hands on leader, Made contact with patients, employees, every day. Actually got out and walked around the hospital and saw personally what was happening. My wife is an employee there and Has in the last 2 years NEVER seen the CEO on the floors, as a matter of fact she has NEVER even seen Mr. Myers. Hamilton has grown, But not in the correct way, instead they have been driven by GREED. Greed to control everything Medical, and the last Installment (The Insurance Business)may very well be their downfall.
The consultant,who is really an advisor, is being paid nearly $700,000 to ruin our local hospital. If Jeff Myers had any balls, he would know how to run the hospital without any help.$700,000 would have saved many, many jobs at HMC. Jeff Myers should be fired. He's a dummy.
brer rabbit

Barnesville, OH

#28 Oct 28, 2010
TheSmartGuy wrote:
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$500k/yr administrators were the directors and COO of Hamilton Medical center that were fired.
Thanks for clearing that up.

The 500k salary sounds excessive. I am skeptical as to it's accuracy though.
Hope I Helped

Dalton, GA

#29 Oct 28, 2010
True wrote:
Why can"t the people, that have Blue Cross Blue Shield Insurance, sue the doctors and the hospitals for not taking the same insurance they take if you work for the government ? Is this not
discrimination .I have Blue Cross Blue Shield
and I pay over $1,000.00 a month .We should have the same rights as the people that works for the government. After all ! The government works for us .
No, you can't sue them! All doctors have to sign a contract with the insurances that they will be taking. I can tell you have no clue about insurance stuff, most ppl don't unless you have dealt with it and that is fine so I'm gonna try to explain it to you. Not only do you have to jump through major hoops to get into that contract the rates at which the docs get reimbursed are terrible. They are really a joke! Its crazy what Blue Cross Blue Shield asks their "potential" doctors to do. Stuff that would save ppl money if it was done "in-house" they make them send it out. So not only do you get billed by the dr but also the lab.

To answer your second comment. No the state employees have United Health Care and/or Cigna not Blue Cross Blue Shield anymore. They haven't had BC/BS in over 2 or 3 years! Its good to have insurance but BC/CS thinks they are the "God of Insurances". They charge you LARGE amts for your premium and then you have an astronomical deductible before the insurance will even pay! Its all a crock.

Lets just give an example about the reimbursement rates on a shot: A shot costs the dr office $20 to get. They charge $30 to you for the shot. The insurance company will only allow 1.00 to be paid for the medicine. So by the dr office signing the contract to take their insurance they have to write off at least $20 bucks meaning you may get billed for the other $9. So they made NO money at all on the shot. They actually went in the hole b/c they didn't even make back what they paid for the shot to begin with. This goes on all the time.

Its funny how ppl think that all drs are "rolling in the dough" and that is not the truth. As the reimbursement rates keep declining it is getting really hard to keep afloat on insurance profits alone. You make your money on ppl who have no insurance, those are the ppl who keep you in business. Certainly not the insurance companies! The drs that do really well are not your PCP(Primary Care Physicians) it is the specialists. The reimbursement rates are awesome on specialist procedures!

Hope I helped you understand that better!
Hmmm

Chatsworth, GA

#30 Oct 28, 2010
Hope I Helped wrote:
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No, you can't sue them! All doctors have to sign a contract with the insurances that they will be taking. I can tell you have no clue about insurance stuff, most ppl don't unless you have dealt with it and that is fine so I'm gonna try to explain it to you. Not only do you have to jump through major hoops to get into that contract the rates at which the docs get reimbursed are terrible. They are really a joke! Its crazy what Blue Cross Blue Shield asks their "potential" doctors to do. Stuff that would save ppl money if it was done "in-house" they make them send it out. So not only do you get billed by the dr but also the lab.
To answer your second comment. No the state employees have United Health Care and/or Cigna not Blue Cross Blue Shield anymore. They haven't had BC/BS in over 2 or 3 years! Its good to have insurance but BC/CS thinks they are the "God of Insurances". They charge you LARGE amts for your premium and then you have an astronomical deductible before the insurance will even pay! Its all a crock.
Lets just give an example about the reimbursement rates on a shot: A shot costs the dr office $20 to get. They charge $30 to you for the shot. The insurance company will only allow 1.00 to be paid for the medicine. So by the dr office signing the contract to take their insurance they have to write off at least $20 bucks meaning you may get billed for the other $9. So they made NO money at all on the shot. They actually went in the hole b/c they didn't even make back what they paid for the shot to begin with. This goes on all the time.
Its funny how ppl think that all drs are "rolling in the dough" and that is not the truth. As the reimbursement rates keep declining it is getting really hard to keep afloat on insurance profits alone. You make your money on ppl who have no insurance, those are the ppl who keep you in business. Certainly not the insurance companies! The drs that do really well are not your PCP(Primary Care Physicians) it is the specialists. The reimbursement rates are awesome on specialist procedures!
Hope I helped you understand that better!
I understand what you are saying totally, But Doc, what's the answer. In a county where there is more indigent patients then not, surely a patient with insurance paying a co-pay up front at the office is more attractive. Not to mention the one that has to have surgery at the local hospital. Like my Dad used to say, "I'd rather make something off the deal than nothing". How are the other hospitals making it work, Erlanger, Gordon ect. take basically ALL insurance?
Hope I Helped

Dalton, GA

#31 Oct 28, 2010
Hmmm wrote:
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I understand what you are saying totally, But Doc, what's the answer. In a county where there is more indigent patients then not, surely a patient with insurance paying a co-pay up front at the office is more attractive. Not to mention the one that has to have surgery at the local hospital. Like my Dad used to say, "I'd rather make something off the deal than nothing". How are the other hospitals making it work, Erlanger, Gordon ect. take basically ALL insurance?
I don't know about the hospital but I know the turn over rates are sky high in Dalton in the PCP offices. People can't afford to pay their medicals bills or can but just don't care and wind up getting turned to collection agencies. I know at Hamilton there are so many ppl who come there and rack up big bills and never pay them. Have you been in the ER lately? The place is covered up with nothing but stomach bugs and sinus infections...does that seem like a emergency to you? I think not. But they do that so they don't have to pay at time of service like you do in some PCP offices. Its nice to say "Bill Me" but in reality you will never see that money. Think about those kind of bills and money lost every year bet its in the hundreds of thousands. I would say that and the fact that the CEOs and "big wigs" making all the money is the reason Hamilton is not doing good. They say the recession is coming to an end but I don't see that in Dalton or Chatsworth. Everyone is suffering. Now you have Mohawk that is changing insurance after Dec of this year. They are wanting all their employees to go to Chattanooga for all their health care. That will really hurt all dr offices and hospital if this happens! What are we to do? Lose the business or cut our throats?

Since: Aug 09

United States

#32 Oct 28, 2010
Hmmm wrote:
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I understand what you are saying totally, But Doc, what's the answer. In a county where there is more indigent patients then not, surely a patient with insurance paying a co-pay up front at the office is more attractive. Not to mention the one that has to have surgery at the local hospital. Like my Dad used to say, "I'd rather make something off the deal than nothing". How are the other hospitals making it work, Erlanger, Gordon ect. take basically ALL insurance?
Your Dad is a genius, and he hits the nail on the head.
Mad Citizen

Dalton, GA

#33 Oct 28, 2010
One of my good friends lost her job this week while Jeff Myers sits on his throne making thousands of dollars doing nothing!!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't take my dog to Hamilton!!
1 Nurse

Dalton, GA

#34 Oct 29, 2010
More layoffs are coming...nurses continue to resign. It is so sad at HMC right now. The people makng these decisions (which seem to make no sense)let some good folks go on Monday....the most shocking of which was Michelle Pirkle. We were promised that patient care and satisfaction would not be impacted, but when morale is so low, nurses are leaving left and right, with more to come, and you let your service excellence person go...then you have impacted the patient care. Jeff Meyers had lied to us from the beginning. Everyone walks around HMC right now totally paranoid and not trusting anyone because this whole thing has been so mishandled from the beginning.
curious

Chatsworth, GA

#35 Oct 29, 2010
1 Nurse wrote:
More layoffs are coming...nurses continue to resign. It is so sad at HMC right now. The people makng these decisions (which seem to make no sense)let some good folks go on Monday....the most shocking of which was Michelle Pirkle. We were promised that patient care and satisfaction would not be impacted, but when morale is so low, nurses are leaving left and right, with more to come, and you let your service excellence person go...then you have impacted the patient care. Jeff Meyers had lied to us from the beginning. Everyone walks around HMC right now totally paranoid and not trusting anyone because this whole thing has been so mishandled from the beginning.
My husband was a patitent at the hospital for broken hip surgery 3 weeks ago,and I could detect a mood among most of the nurses.Most of them were snotty and seemed as though they did not care except for 2 of them.This hospital is definately not of the quality care it used to be.I have instructed my family to take me to Memorial or Erlanger in Chattanooga unless it is a dire emergency such as a heart attack or stroke...etc when seconds count.My primary care physican no longer practices at Hamilton and I have heard a lot more Doctors do not practice there anymore do you why that is?
knowsone

Dalton, GA

#36 Oct 29, 2010
curious wrote:
<quoted text>My husband was a patitent at the hospital for broken hip surgery 3 weeks ago,and I could detect a mood among most of the nurses.Most of them were snotty and seemed as though they did not care except for 2 of them.This hospital is definately not of the quality care it used to be.I have instructed my family to take me to Memorial or Erlanger in Chattanooga unless it is a dire emergency such as a heart attack or stroke...etc when seconds count.My primary care physican no longer practices at Hamilton and I have heard a lot more Doctors do not practice there anymore do you why that is?
The snotty ones are the recent hires. They need to be given a drug test for sure.
nurse

Ringgold, GA

#37 Oct 29, 2010
knowsone wrote:
<quoted text> The snotty ones are the recent hires. They need to be given a drug test for sure.
I don't think that drugs are the problem. The new people are overwhelmed. They walked into chaos and it's very hard on them. The tech's were taken away and the load they are given is hard for experience nurses, so new nurses have a very difficult time. The problem is that when one or two nurses are rude or don't seem as caring, it reflects badly upon the rest of us. It doesn't help that everyone is uptight and afraid of making a mistake because they fear for their job.
Good Information

Dalton, GA

#38 Oct 29, 2010
brer rabbit wrote:
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Thanks for clearing that up.
The 500k salary sounds excessive. I am skeptical as to it's accuracy though.
might just want to look up on the internet Find Form 990 for Hamilton Medical Center and you can see the salaries of HMC exects.
Good Information

Dalton, GA

#39 Oct 29, 2010
TheSmartGuy wrote:
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$500k/yr administrators were the directors and COO of Hamilton Medical center that were fired.
might just want to look up on the internet Find Form 990 for Hamilton Medical Center and you can see the salaries of HMC exects.

Since: Aug 09

Dalton, GA

#40 Oct 29, 2010
Good Information wrote:
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might just want to look up on the internet Find Form 990 for Hamilton Medical Center and you can see the salaries of HMC exects.
I can't find a recent one. I can only find the one for 2006, and if I'm reading that right the CEO made over $900k/year?

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