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ICC: Libya has evidence of killing by Gadhafi son

There are 13 comments on the Daily Journal story from Apr 19, 2012, titled ICC: Libya has evidence of killing by Gadhafi son. In it, Daily Journal reports that:

TRIPOLI, Libya - The chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court said Thursday Libya has evidence linking a son of deposed ruler Moammar Gadhafi to recruiting mercenaries and executing people.

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Carlos

Volta Redonda, Brazil

#1 Apr 21, 2012
Those evil tirants will never learn? Only NATO and their puppets can kill and torture with impunity - because they are good guys...
Observer

Libya

#2 Apr 21, 2012
Carlos wrote:
Those evil tirants will never learn? Only NATO and their puppets can kill and torture with impunity - because they are good guys...
ha ha ha ha ha ha

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#3 Apr 21, 2012
Carlos wrote:
Those evil tirants will never learn? Only NATO and their puppets can kill and torture with impunity - because they are good guys...
What are you going on about? Did you read the report at all? There isn't a word of killing and torture in the whole of the report.
Ali El Kebir

Geneve, Switzerland

#4 Apr 22, 2012
Nobody normal may support GaddafI and his regime but Libya is stll far from normalisation
kiwi

Frenstat, Czech Republic

#5 Apr 22, 2012
It is funny to accuse poor Saif for hiring mercenaries when there are Egyptians as todays members of Zintan Qaqaa brigade. Sure, originally trained in Qatar.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#6 Apr 22, 2012
kiwi wrote:
It is funny to accuse poor Saif for hiring mercenaries when there are Egyptians as todays members of Zintan Qaqaa brigade. Sure, originally trained in Qatar.
I'm not so much concerned about his guilt or innocence as much as his getting a fair trial in Libya. I mean, where are they going to get an unbiased Libyan judge from? Hardly any Libyan has not been affected in one way or another by the old regime. It seems to me Libyans are either Gaddhafi loyalists or rebels.
kiwi

Frenstat, Czech Republic

#7 Apr 22, 2012
Ditto Dog wrote:
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I'm not so much concerned about his guilt or innocence as much as his getting a fair trial in Libya. I mean, where are they going to get an unbiased Libyan judge from? Hardly any Libyan has not been affected in one way or another by the old regime. It seems to me Libyans are either Gaddhafi loyalists or rebels.
Considering Libyans as pro or against Gaddafi is a big mistake. Most of todays resistance don´t care about Gaddafi. They see the fake Jalil NTC and armed gangs as an issue. Saif as a Gaddafi successor has been denied by all sides. Even Mathaba told him to shut up. Sentencing of Saif can´t be anything else than an act of revenge and/or a scapegoat thing. Sure, there are people who desperatelly need to silence him. Too many Gaddafi LIA or petrol export officers earned (defrauded) a fortune in last years. Too many politicians had very special relationship with the King of the Kings.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#8 Apr 22, 2012
kiwi wrote:
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Considering Libyans as pro or against Gaddafi is a big mistake. Most of todays resistance don´t care about Gaddafi. They see the fake Jalil NTC and armed gangs as an issue. Saif as a Gaddafi successor has been denied by all sides. Even Mathaba told him to shut up. Sentencing of Saif can´t be anything else than an act of revenge and/or a scapegoat thing. Sure, there are people who desperatelly need to silence him. Too many Gaddafi LIA or petrol export officers earned (defrauded) a fortune in last years. Too many politicians had very special relationship with the King of the Kings.
You say that as if you are in the country experiencing the situation everyday. But you are not. You talk of resistance as if this is considerable. Is it really? And against whom? Most of it doesn't care about Gaddhahi? How do you know this? Have you interviewed them all then?

All just speculation. It would be helpful if you would express this as such instead of giving as if it was live from some sort of front.
kiwi

Frenstat, Czech Republic

#9 Apr 22, 2012
Ditto Dog wrote:
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You say that as if you are in the country experiencing the situation everyday. But you are not. You talk of resistance as if this is considerable. Is it really? And against whom? Most of it doesn't care about Gaddhahi? How do you know this? Have you interviewed them all then?
All just speculation. It would be helpful if you would express this as such instead of giving as if it was live from some sort of front.
No matter what Observer writes about Libya is in an everyday shooting state with varied fractions/gangs/bands/brigades or militia, whatever you call them, trying to get upper hand before elections. Currently it is Zintanis to focus at. Officialy, they are pro-NTC, Osama al-Juwali as the Ministry of Defence. It was Zintan offensive being responsible for Tripoli fall when Misurata/Benghazi bands lost their breath in front of Zliten. It was Zintan saving NTC bottocks in Kufra, Sebha, Zuwara only recently.
March 18th, fighting started between supporters of the previous head of Abu Selim military council and those backing the new one. Both tried to take control of the building housing the military council. When this turned into a shootout, the Zintan Qaqaa brigade (this brigade is very important as used often as "firefighters" )were sent in to try and restore order. On the other hand, it was 20 Zintan brigades to secure 50km perimeter around Tripoli airport. Why the airport? Because all freshly printed money went through this place. At the ceremony of the airport handover, the Zintani official angrily accused Prime Minister Abdurrahim Al-Kib for previous delays in handing the airport over. He said that it was not true that Zintan did not want to hand it over. It was, he said, the prime minister’s fault. In what some people attending saw as a direct challenge, he added that both the prime minister and NTC chairman Mustafa Abdul Jalil would be responsible for anything that happened at the airport after the takeover. Zintanis fought Tripoli brigade in August last year,they fought Mistrata brigade opposite Marriott Hotel and they definitelly try to enlarge their interest area towards Ghadames today. Mukhtar al-Akhtar is a name to remember.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#10 Apr 22, 2012
kiwi wrote:
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No matter what Observer writes about Libya is in an everyday shooting state with varied fractions/gangs/bands/brigades or militia, whatever you call them, trying to get upper hand before elections. Currently it is Zintanis to focus at. Officialy, they are pro-NTC, Osama al-Juwali as the Ministry of Defence. It was Zintan offensive being responsible for Tripoli fall when Misurata/Benghazi bands lost their breath in front of Zliten. It was Zintan saving NTC bottocks in Kufra, Sebha, Zuwara only recently.
March 18th, fighting started between supporters of the previous head of Abu Selim military council and those backing the new one. Both tried to take control of the building housing the military council. When this turned into a shootout, the Zintan Qaqaa brigade (this brigade is very important as used often as "firefighters" )were sent in to try and restore order. On the other hand, it was 20 Zintan brigades to secure 50km perimeter around Tripoli airport. Why the airport? Because all freshly printed money went through this place. At the ceremony of the airport handover, the Zintani official angrily accused Prime Minister Abdurrahim Al-Kib for previous delays in handing the airport over. He said that it was not true that Zintan did not want to hand it over. It was, he said, the prime minister’s fault. In what some people attending saw as a direct challenge, he added that both the prime minister and NTC chairman Mustafa Abdul Jalil would be responsible for anything that happened at the airport after the takeover. Zintanis fought Tripoli brigade in August last year,they fought Mistrata brigade opposite Marriott Hotel and they definitelly try to enlarge their interest area towards Ghadames today. Mukhtar al-Akhtar is a name to remember.
I'm sorry if anybody gave you the impression that everything will be just hunky-dory straight after the revolution. A pretty unrealistic expectation really when one remembers that most countries often have years of unrest just after such a war.
Observer

Libya

#11 Apr 22, 2012
kiwi wrote:
It is funny to accuse poor Saif for hiring mercenaries when there are Egyptians as todays members of Zintan Qaqaa brigade. Sure, originally trained in Qatar.
Yeap, poor saif, he was a meek lamb falsely accused of grave wrong doings, se this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
he was so nice peaceful guy, wasn't he?
kiwi

Frenstat, Czech Republic

#12 Apr 22, 2012
Observer wrote:
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Yeap, poor saif, he was a meek lamb falsely accused of grave wrong doings, se this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =gqR7zTkiSsgXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
he was so nice peaceful guy, wasn't he?
And? I haven´t seen anything else than a man trying to cross over his own shadow. Nothing than a big mouth. Too late.
Observer

Tripoli, Libya

#13 Apr 23, 2012
kiwi wrote:
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And? I haven´t seen anything else than a man trying to cross over his own shadow. Nothing than a big mouth. Too late.
yeap, too too late....

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