Pedophiles To Launch Political Party

Pedophiles To Launch Political Party

There are 78 comments on the WFMY-TV Greensboro story from May 30, 2006, titled Pedophiles To Launch Political Party. In it, WFMY-TV Greensboro reports that:

Reuters repots that pedophiles not only want to lower the legal age for sexual relations but also want the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage.

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Emma

Wyoming, NY

#66 Nov 19, 2006
Yada wrote:
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That last sentence is what 'tis all about. Bleeding hearts want to save them and provide rights and all that. So they are released like Rodriguez that killed Drew Sjodin about three weeks after release. Excellent point. Thank you.
I'm tired of people with bleeding hearts.There is no saving them. Perverts don't deserve any rights. Why is it that the "Perps" of any crime are the ones that have all the rights? Protect the perps it's the American way.

Thank you Yada for your intelligence!
speed buggy

United States

#67 Nov 19, 2006
THEAprof wrote:
Just thought this information might add to to the discussion.
Have you ever look up your town?

http://www.nsopr.gov/
franko

Coquitlam, Canada

#68 Nov 19, 2006
THEAprof wrote:
LOL...if you really knew me -- instead of making assumptions based on a single post -- you would understand why your suggestion that I need to be "open to diverse thoughts and ideas" is laughable.
I disagree, however, that pedophelia is more common today. Sadly, it has always been here -- just like domestic violence, alcoholism, etc. The difference is that we are talking about it more, which is a good thing in my opinion. As unpleasant a topic as it may be, ignoring it does not make the problem go away.
I have seen few "valuable" points discussed on this board. Instead people simply seem to yell their outrage over a so-called political party with absolutely no clout or influence and talk about shooting pedophiles or sending them to deserted islands (hardly practical suggestions). My point is that there are clearly more productive ways to combat the problem.
By the way, awareness of pedophelia has changed the way everyone interacts with children. When I was asked to teach summer theatre workshops for children, I almost didn't do it, partly because I was concerned that some idiot parent would learn that I was gay and accuse me of molesting their child.(I find it amazingly insulting -- and ignorant -- when someone equates pedophilia with homosexuality, but so many homophobes do.) So I agreed but only on the condition that I have an adult assistant, and I was never alone with a child or even the class. It was a wonderful experience, and I enjoyed it far more than I thought I would. But I never would have done it without protecting myself.
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To answer Valerie's question ... where I was going with this was to get a more thorough answer out of you than the initial critical remarks.

THanks for responding .. I knew you had a lot more to say.

I agree with most of what you say .. I have felt the same about remarks poeple make like "this never used to happen" .. of course it did, but it never got out in the open, that's all. TOday's media has access to info they could not get 25 years ago.

The comments poeple make "THIngs like that never happen in a small town" .. balderdash. THey happen just as often, in proportion to the population.

I spent some time last summer discussing things related to the Vatican and it's affects on society and out-datedness to modern times. Part of that discussion involved the mis-conception that more gays are pedophiles. Several Gay men jumped in to deny that was a provable allegation.

While much of what poeple said earlier was "scratching the surface" I find that you get personal insights, little details like "I am Gay so this is from that viewpoint", and other insights into poele's minds that you would not get any other way.

THis is what makes TOPIX so interesting.
franko

Coquitlam, Canada

#69 Nov 19, 2006
Yada wrote:
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A small island like Alcatraz covered in guano is not a bad idea.
I ws sure you woudl agreee ..... they could govern themsleves and if they neeed to "get some" they could rape each other ... I'l bet it would be total choas.
franko

Coquitlam, Canada

#70 Nov 19, 2006
Yada wrote:
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The laws in most places I've seen cannot prosecute until there is probable cause concerning their lawbreaking.
Once you have some decent evidence that the pedophiles have legally offended a person it is slung into the halls of Psychiatry for Forensic Psychiatrists to give expert testimony.
There are big kahunas in that field. Just hope you hire more than one that have ethics and not that Texan Nazi that was wanting to kill blck people and other pigmented people.
The reason it reaches the halls of that field is the same reason it had to for John Karr. You have to show that the pedophile was criminally responsible - he willfully chose to offend. And you have to show that currently he is a fit liason to participate in his defense i.e. competent to stand trial now.
Pedophilia is a psychiatric diagnosis under the forms of paraphilias and has multiple specifiers. Many of these folk play mentally disturbed to get away with their crime, see.
Another important reason to hire the ethical forensic psychiatrist is because the pedophiles and the sex offenders that abduct or have an escalating pattern are the most dangerous. They are high risk and have to be cordoned off from society. There is no cure so society ahs to find a way to keep them locked up.
But the quandary is that even though they may have a psychiatric diagonosis their behaviour is a felony under the law. Therefore, there is a certain amount of prison time for that and no more. You cannot just keep them in prison when their time is up. we have seen this in the perpetrator of the Drew Sjodin in MN.
Every law put forward to contrl their remaining away from society has been shot down by the Federal Supreme Court here in the US even thou states may retain these laws approve in the State supreme crt.
I knew someone would come up with this sort of info ... I just never knew it would be you. Excellent info and insight into the pedo's mind.

THIs is one of the quandaries of modern society .. to maintain justice, to protect the innocent from being accused of crimes they did not commit, and what to do with repeat offenders who have no control over what they do .. they just do it.

THe "bleeding hearts" will say they should not be punished for things they cannot control, but what do we do then to protect their victems?

The innocents of Society, and children, must be protected. Which is the greater good?
franko

Coquitlam, Canada

#71 Nov 19, 2006
THEAprof wrote:
This board has prompted me to do a little research on the subject of pedophilia. The most informative article I found was in Maclean's of 5/30/05.
According to scientists working at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (considered a leading authority on child sex offenders), despite more than a century of research, there is still more myth than fact surrounding pedophilia. Based on studying 1000s of offenders over several decades, the Centre observes than about half of child sex offenders appear to be true pedophiles (someone who has no sexual interest in adults but rather an exclusive preference for children). The other half have "almost-normal, adult-oriented sexual attractions"; these offenders -- who most often abuse family members -- appear to act under a "lapse of judgment" and often under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.
While child sex offenders are still seen as presenting a high threat of recidivism, repeat offenses are not as common as most of us have been led to believe. After 5 years, 13% of child sex offenders have molested again (regardless of treatment); within 10 years, the recidivism rate increases to 20%.
While the internet seems to have increased access to child porn, this has not led to any increase in actual sex assaults on children. In fact, the number of reported molestations has decreased in the past decade, following an all-time high in the early 1990s.
Just thought this information might add to to the discussion.
Yes it does. Thanks.

I wonder if there is a link being studied then on the child porn issue.

THIs could, by extension, be examined to see if, for example, access to porn would increase or decrease the rate of rapes. SOme claim it adds fuel to the fire. Others say that if a rapist could get sexual gratification by seeing porn they are less likley to go out and rape. BUt of course, the psychology of this, and pedophelia, is much more comlex than just that, isn't it?

I wonder if the recidivism rate is so low because the offenders have gotten smarter at not being caught again?

Or, does that indicate the theory that many of the original offenders were in the latter category and originally acted due to extreme circumstances? Does that mean that only 20-25% of offenders are so extreme that "they can;t help themselves?" Does that mean that 75% can be rehabilitated?
Yada

Humble, TX

#72 Nov 19, 2006
Emma wrote:
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I'm tired of people with bleeding hearts.There is no saving them. Perverts don't deserve any rights. Why is it that the "Perps" of any crime are the ones that have all the rights? Protect the perps it's the American way.
Thank you Yada for your intelligence!
My server knocked me off when I posted my reply to you, Emma.

I said that certain people cannot live witht he fact that the teo top high risk sex offender types were the pedophiles and those that abduct. They cannot accept that these offenders cannot be rehabilitated.

I also said that these types are addicted to and get drunk/high on the act of offending. Therapy does not reach them as talking about it gives them a craving and anticipatory excitement. If you are ever in proximity to them you will see this for yourself.

The behaviours start young and they get away with it till deep into their teens or into adult years because people don't want to believe that they do this or are capable of it. Hence, the freely access victim after victim. The sex offender registry only contains the incidental incest offender which apparently have the lowest recidivism rate. The big time offenders jump across borders and disappear until hauled in after another offense, like Rodriguez.

I could go on at length but 'twill probably do little good in general. But thank you for your compliment and comment.
franko

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#74 Nov 19, 2006
Yada wrote:
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My server knocked me off when I posted my reply to you, Emma.
I said that certain people cannot live witht he fact that the teo top high risk sex offender types were the pedophiles and those that abduct. They cannot accept that these offenders cannot be rehabilitated.
I also said that these types are addicted to and get drunk/high on the act of offending. Therapy does not reach them as talking about it gives them a craving and anticipatory excitement. If you are ever in proximity to them you will see this for yourself.
The behaviours start young and they get away with it till deep into their teens or into adult years because people don't want to believe that they do this or are capable of it. Hence, the freely access victim after victim. The sex offender registry only contains the incidental incest offender which apparently have the lowest recidivism rate. The big time offenders jump across borders and disappear until hauled in after another offense, like Rodriguez.
I could go on at length but 'twill probably do little good in general. But thank you for your compliment and comment.
The information you present now may reach someone, who tells someone else, who tells someone else, until if reaches someone who has enough clout to do something. The more any of us speak out against this sort of thing, the more liklely some positive acotin will result.

Thanks for passing on your knowledge.
Flatlander Pa

Nazareth, PA

#76 Nov 20, 2006
Here's an idea. Let them have their way so to speak. Then, when they become registered party members go around and pick them all up and deport their sorry asses to so third world country..
aiki_mcr

Berkeley, CA

#77 Nov 20, 2006
Wow, this thread exploded all of sudden.

"Legislating Morality" - I don't know what the experience of other people is here, but to me this has a specific meaning. Outlawing murder is not legislating morality because there is a victim. Outlawing alcohol would be because the victim - if there is a victim - also the perpetrator. But, to be clear, outlawing consumption of alcohol and then getting behind the wheel of a car is clearly *not* legistating morality because doing so poses a clear and present danger to other people.

So, there are certain crimes I feel like ought not to be crimes under this definition. This doesn't mean I condone the actions, just that I don't think it's the business of our government to prevent people from engaging in those actions.

And to be sure, there are grey areas in this. One that I like to point at that can be absolutely correct but can also be just ridiculous is speed bumps. When they are justified they are a Very Good Thing. But sometimes they're put in places that are just baffling.

"Pedophilia" - Pedophiles would like us to believe that this is legislating morality. But it fails on the most obvious test of the premise: there is no question that there is a victim. You can argue both ways for some sex crimes (e.g., prostitution), but there is no credible argument for pedophilia being victimless.

"Punishment" - Part of the problem is that we too often think in terms of punishment when the goal should be protection of innocents. Someone who is mentally ill and unable to prevent himself from molesting children does not deserve to be locked up in penitentiary. But that person needs to kept away from general society as well. That doesn't require that we "punish" him, but it does require that we impose restrictions with consequences associated with violating those restrictions.

And we need to be serious about it.

The problem I've seen with such approaches has mostly to do with follow through. You can't just say, "Look, you need to stay away from children or we will have to put you in prison" and then do nothing to enforce the restriction and expect it to do any good.

FWIW: This is true of a lot of offenses in modern society. We are so focused on punishment that we wind up (in a weird sort of irony) not punishing people. If we focused more on protecting innocents and less on vengeance we'd likely be better off.

We'd probably have a lot fewer laws on the books as well.

And our cops would have an easier time of doing their jobs.

I think.
franko

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#78 Nov 20, 2006
aiki_mcr wrote:
Wow, this thread exploded all of sudden.
"Legislating Morality" - I don't know what the experience of other people is here, but to me this has a specific meaning. Outlawing murder is not legislating morality because there is a victim. Outlawing alcohol would be because the victim - if there is a victim - also the perpetrator. But, to be clear, outlawing consumption of alcohol and then getting behind the wheel of a car is clearly *not* legistating morality because doing so poses a clear and present danger to other people.
So, there are certain crimes I feel like ought not to be crimes under this definition. This doesn't mean I condone the actions, just that I don't think it's the business of our government to prevent people from engaging in those actions.
And to be sure, there are grey areas in this. One that I like to point at that can be absolutely correct but can also be just ridiculous is speed bumps. When they are justified they are a Very Good Thing. But sometimes they're put in places that are just baffling.
"Pedophilia" - Pedophiles would like us to believe that this is legislating morality. But it fails on the most obvious test of the premise: there is no question that there is a victim. You can argue both ways for some sex crimes (e.g., prostitution), but there is no credible argument for pedophilia being victimless.
"Punishment" - Part of the problem is that we too often think in terms of punishment when the goal should be protection of innocents. Someone who is mentally ill and unable to prevent himself from molesting children does not deserve to be locked up in penitentiary. But that person needs to kept away from general society as well. That doesn't require that we "punish" him, but it does require that we impose restrictions with consequences associated with violating those restrictions.
And we need to be serious about it.
The problem I've seen with such approaches has mostly to do with follow through. You can't just say, "Look, you need to stay away from children or we will have to put you in prison" and then do nothing to enforce the restriction and expect it to do any good.
FWIW: This is true of a lot of offenses in modern society. We are so focused on punishment that we wind up (in a weird sort of irony) not punishing people. If we focused more on protecting innocents and less on vengeance we'd likely be better off.
We'd probably have a lot fewer laws on the books as well.
And our cops would have an easier time of doing their jobs.
I think.
Fewer laws? Easier for our police?

I wish there was a way ....

The question of legistlating morality ... by your definition (ie. there is a victem).

I think that any act that is considered immoral probably does have some consequnces to someone. I think that is why we define an act moral or not.

IF nobody got hurt, then how can it be immoral?

LEt's take a borderline issue .. is masturbation immoral or not? I've heard people argue that the bible says it is (Thou shalt not waste the seed on teh ground, or osmehting like that).

So, to the bible, in this case wasting something of value is immoral, even though nobody got hurt.

But who does masturbation hurt?

WEll, my wife saw me one morning, after we had sex the night before ... she felt hurt. Was she a "victem?" I think not, because there was no significant harm done nor was harm intended.

But anything that has the potential to cause harm has a moral aspect tied to it atuomatically.

SO, I agree with you when the pedo's try to use certain wording to try to justify their cause. It's ridiculous, to say the least. Offensive to the rest of us that they think any of us would ever accept their behaviour.
young guy

Glen Iris, Australia

#79 Jan 20, 2009
wow tryung to legalize beastilality as well thats alot worse then f*cking an underaged all these people who made this party should be locked up

“Breastfeeding ISN'T a crime!”

Since: Nov 08

Boring Green, KY

#80 Jan 20, 2009
Now, I've just stumbled across this thread and haven't read any of your posts...but

To the headline stating that they want their own political party

I think it's a great idea...everyone who registers the Pedofile Party can be sent to jail that much quicker.

As long as they are dumb enough to voluntarily register for anykind of thing that IDs them as pedofiles is a good thing.
anonymous

Portland, OR

#81 Jan 3, 2013
The colors of the world are changing, mankind has always feared what it doesn't understand or refuses to understand.
Jennie

Spain

#82 Jan 3, 2013
I would vote for them and so would my kids, because they also want the right to full sex.

No age of consent for family sex

Lower age of consent for sex outside the family

All Child and Mixed Age porn to be legal
Olu

UK

#84 Jan 3, 2013
Lot of boring white people talking crap on this forum just shoot the paedos and be done with it. I thought ALL you white folks were paedophiles anyway
Kate

San Jose, CA

#85 Jan 3, 2013
Jennie wrote:
I would vote for them and so would my kids, because they also want the right to full sex.
No age of consent for family sex
Lower age of consent for sex outside the family
All Child and Mixed Age porn to be legal
lolol, you're trolling well. prbly. tell us more what you think..
Sam

Williamsport, OH

#86 Jan 3, 2013
I believe they call themselves the DNC now.

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