Islanders host Penguins in Tavares' N...

Islanders host Penguins in Tavares' NHL debut

There are 26 comments on the Newsday story from Jul 15, 2009, titled Islanders host Penguins in Tavares' NHL debut. In it, Newsday reports that:

The marketing of Islanders No. 1 overall pick John Tavares begins with the season opener against defending Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Oct.

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Chuck

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Jul 16, 2009
I think all the hype is ridiculous-
He's not going to be any better than Josh Bailey was last season-
The Islanders and the NY media are far better down-playing the kid and having him surprise people rather than overhype him and have him disappoint.

“Lovely year for a Guinness”

Since: Dec 07

Daytona Beach

#2 Jul 16, 2009
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SuperNintendo Chalmers

United States

#3 Jul 16, 2009
Chuck wrote:
I think all the hype is ridiculous-
He's not going to be any better than Josh Bailey was last season-
The Islanders and the NY media are far better down-playing the kid and having him surprise people rather than overhype him and have him disappoint.
As Schein would say "we are sharing a brain" on that one, however this organization is so desperate for attention in a crowded NY sports market, they are doubling down on Tavares, unfortunately NO ONE can live up to the hype being generated here. What happens when he finishes his rookie campaign with 40 points (18g 22a), do we say he is a bust then???? I just hope Islander fans do not buy into this hype.

I would rather see Bailey, Neilson, KO and Comeou progress this year anyway over a Tavares surprise rookie season. And as we all know, we still need a few decent wingers and Dmen, so heres hoping for another high first round pick in next years draft and then they should slowly, very slowly let the hype parade begin, right now is just too soon.
bhockey47

Northport, NY

#4 Jul 16, 2009
It's got to be more than just a bunch of rookies...Tanguay, Tanguay, Tanguay. Pittsburgh didn't do it with just a bunch of rookies, nor has anyone else.

Also, it's time for KATE MURRAY to give the thumbs up on THE LIGHTHOUSE PROJECT. The JT hype is one thing, but waiting UNTIL October for the Lighthouse Project DECISION is totally nuts...
Chris18

Brewster, NY

#5 Jul 16, 2009
if you look at the poll on the left, as of now 55.6% of voters feel he's going to have his rookie ups & downs. And of course the newspapers are creating hype. If they just say he'll be okay, but better next year, nobody reads/comments past the 1st article.

And absolutely no, he's not a bust if he puts up 18/22 this year. That would have put him 2nd on the team in points last year. haha-oooh boy.

He's not the savior, certainly not short term. But he's also not a bust.

Did everyone else forget that the Islanders have repeatedly said they are going through a re-building process, and the fans should be patient? 1 guy isn't going to change it. The team is hyping him to sell tickets, but if you listen to Snow, he's making it pretty clear that Tavares isn't going to bring the Cup this year.

Relax, sit back, and enjoy watching young hockey players grow and get better together. Does anyone else remember the Islanders of the mid-late 70s? They pretty much stunk. A few more good picks, and they won 4 straight Cups. Look at Pittsburgh & Chicago. Give them 3 years. There is finally a vision that goes beyond next week. Many of you call them "bobbleheads" but are calling for high-price free agent signings, ala the NY Rangers. Yeah I said it, a bunch of you share ideologies with Rangers fans. It's going to be a few years. Watch the progressions...
History Major

United States

#6 Jul 16, 2009
bhockey47 wrote:
It's got to be more than just a bunch of rookies...Tanguay, Tanguay, Tanguay. Pittsburgh didn't do it with just a bunch of rookies, nor has anyone else.
Also, it's time for KATE MURRAY to give the thumbs up on THE LIGHTHOUSE PROJECT. The JT hype is one thing, but waiting UNTIL October for the Lighthouse Project DECISION is totally nuts...
Immediately after acquiring their young star Pittsburgh signed Ziggy Palffy and several other high calibre players. How did that turn out for them that year?

Don't worry about signing older completer players. The team should have gone (or should be going) after younger players that can be part of the package in 3 years or more when they have a chance to truly compete. I still think the Isles should make an effort to get Kessel's rights from Boston since they don't intend to sign him.
NOKC

Ithaca, NY

#7 Jul 16, 2009
People have to remeber, no one said he's going to be a Sidney Crosby or an Ovechkin, and the Isles new that before they drafted him. There will be growing pains and islnder fans should just enjoy the attention their team is getting. On a poll on NHL.com Tavares' debut was second to the Winter Classis in fans most anticipated game for 09-10.
Mark

Rego Park, NY

#8 Jul 16, 2009
Gonna be a LOOOOOONG road back to respectability. Hey is DP off those crutches yet????

We need a respectable goalie too!!!!
Busey

Melville, NY

#9 Jul 16, 2009
bhockey47 wrote:
It's got to be more than just a bunch of rookies...Tanguay, Tanguay, Tanguay. Pittsburgh didn't do it with just a bunch of rookies, nor has anyone else.
Also, it's time for KATE MURRAY to give the thumbs up on THE LIGHTHOUSE PROJECT. The JT hype is one thing, but waiting UNTIL October for the Lighthouse Project DECISION is totally nuts...
What is it with you and Tanguay??

You have been posting this crap for weeks.... do you have a mancrush or something?

Since: Oct 08

Belleville NJ

#10 Jul 16, 2009
Chris18 wrote:
if you look at the poll on the left, as of now 55.6% of voters feel he's going to have his rookie ups & downs. And of course the newspapers are creating hype. If they just say he'll be okay, but better next year, nobody reads/comments past the 1st article.
And absolutely no, he's not a bust if he puts up 18/22 this year. That would have put him 2nd on the team in points last year. haha-oooh boy.
He's not the savior, certainly not short term. But he's also not a bust.
Did everyone else forget that the Islanders have repeatedly said they are going through a re-building process, and the fans should be patient? 1 guy isn't going to change it. The team is hyping him to sell tickets, but if you listen to Snow, he's making it pretty clear that Tavares isn't going to bring the Cup this year.
Relax, sit back, and enjoy watching young hockey players grow and get better together. Does anyone else remember the Islanders of the mid-late 70s? They pretty much stunk. A few more good picks, and they won 4 straight Cups. Look at Pittsburgh & Chicago. Give them 3 years. There is finally a vision that goes beyond next week. Many of you call them "bobbleheads" but are calling for high-price free agent signings, ala the NY Rangers. Yeah I said it, a bunch of you share ideologies with Rangers fans. It's going to be a few years. Watch the progressions...
Chris18, absolutly I remember the 70's, I was only 12YO when the Isles played their first game in 1972. I was almost magical seeing the team progress and improve every year after Al Arbour became HC. I am very optomistic about what we are seeing in the re-creation of a new competative team on the Island. I (as well as all Islander fans) should show some patience, and enjoy the ride. Soon I belive the isles will be better than just competative. Go Isles 2009-2010.
Jay

Columbus, OH

#11 Jul 16, 2009
History Major wrote:
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Immediately after acquiring their young star Pittsburgh signed Ziggy Palffy and several other high calibre players. How did that turn out for them that year?
Don't worry about signing older completer players. The team should have gone (or should be going) after younger players that can be part of the package in 3 years or more when they have a chance to truly compete. I still think the Isles should make an effort to get Kessel's rights from Boston since they don't intend to sign him.
I agree, let's sign Kessel from Boston. Then Snow needs to sign Jason Williams from Columbus or Richard Zednik from Florida and find an enforcer like Andrew Peters from Buffalo (or a player from an over salary capped team) to protect the younger smaller players. Only two or three additional players needed to balance out the Islander's this season.
Dan

United States

#12 Jul 16, 2009
Jay wrote:
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I agree, let's sign Kessel from Boston. Then Snow needs to sign Jason Williams from Columbus or Richard Zednik from Florida and find an enforcer like Andrew Peters from Buffalo (or a player from an over salary capped team) to protect the younger smaller players. Only two or three additional players needed to balance out the Islander's this season.
Signing Williams and Zednik would be a tremendous waste of valuable cap space. Although we have a ton of it, there is no need to spend it on useless players. Would they make us a little bit better this year? Sure, maybe. But in 3-5 years when we are starting to take the shape of a solid team they will be useless. Kessel would be insane to sign. We would most likely have to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick to get him. The kids had 1 good season and a ton of health issues between cancer, mono, and injuries. Not worth those 3 picks in what I have read is shaping up to be another deep draft. Next year is the year Garth needs to (and IMO) and will make a splash in free agency. With the salary cap set to go down there will be even more clubs that are going to have cap issues and problems resigning players. Look at Chicago, they are OVER the cap right now, and will have even more problems fitting under it next summer. Kane and Toews are set to become RFA's. One of those two are fully worth sending an offer sheet to, as a) they are extremely young, talented and will have had 3 years of NHL experience under their belts and b) if we offer enough Chicago will have an incredibly hard time matching it. Those are guys I'd be willing to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder for, not Kessel who in addition to his health issues I have heard is no good in the locker room.
Jay

Columbus, OH

#13 Jul 16, 2009
Who will be this season's Captain?
Dan

United States

#14 Jul 16, 2009
Jay wrote:
Who will be this season's Captain?
my guess would be weight with witt/streit wearing the A's. or maybe streit with the other two wearing the A's
champ4

AOL

#15 Jul 16, 2009
lol... lol.....
Jay

Columbus, OH

#16 Jul 16, 2009
Dan wrote:
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Signing Williams and Zednik would be a tremendous waste of valuable cap space. Although we have a ton of it, there is no need to spend it on useless players. Would they make us a little bit better this year? Sure, maybe. But in 3-5 years when we are starting to take the shape of a solid team they will be useless. Kessel would be insane to sign. We would most likely have to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick to get him. The kids had 1 good season and a ton of health issues between cancer, mono, and injuries. Not worth those 3 picks in what I have read is shaping up to be another deep draft. Next year is the year Garth needs to (and IMO) and will make a splash in free agency. With the salary cap set to go down there will be even more clubs that are going to have cap issues and problems resigning players. Look at Chicago, they are OVER the cap right now, and will have even more problems fitting under it next summer. Kane and Toews are set to become RFA's. One of those two are fully worth sending an offer sheet to, as a) they are extremely young, talented and will have had 3 years of NHL experience under their belts and b) if we offer enough Chicago will have an incredibly hard time matching it. Those are guys I'd be willing to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder for, not Kessel who in addition to his health issues I have heard is no good in the locker room.
Sign Zednik to a 1-year contract for $1.5 million with it know that if the season is a bust, he'd be traded for a trade pick. Williams, a 2-year contract between $4.5 to 5 million. Wasn't aware that Boston wanted so much in-return for Kessel along with his past medical history. Maybe Ottawa will unload a RFA next season like Nick Foligno, Brian Lee, or Alexandre Picard.
Dan

United States

#17 Jul 16, 2009
Jay wrote:
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Sign Zednik to a 1-year contract for $1.5 million with it know that if the season is a bust, he'd be traded for a trade pick. Williams, a 2-year contract between $4.5 to 5 million. Wasn't aware that Boston wanted so much in-return for Kessel along with his past medical history. Maybe Ottawa will unload a RFA next season like Nick Foligno, Brian Lee, or Alexandre Picard.
I don't know exactly what kind of pick Zednik would fetch at the deadline but that I wouldnt mind. Williams...ehhh maybe but I don't really see the point, although it could be worse I guess. Kessel is an RFA, I'm not sure if you know how that works but Boston can match any offer and if Kessel accepts the offer of another team Boston gets compensated with draft picks.

If we were to offer (and have him accept), and these are just rounded numbers, 3 - 4.5 we would have to give Boston a 1st and 3rd. if we offered/he accepted 4.5 - 6 we'd give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. 6-7.5 gets 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd. over 7.5 gets 4 firsts
Rob

United States

#18 Jul 16, 2009
Dan wrote:
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Kessel is an RFA, I'm not sure if you know how that works but Boston can match any offer and if Kessel accepts the offer of another team Boston gets compensated with draft picks.
If we were to offer (and have him accept), and these are just rounded numbers, 3 - 4.5 we would have to give Boston a 1st and 3rd. if we offered/he accepted 4.5 - 6 we'd give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. 6-7.5 gets 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd. over 7.5 gets 4 firsts
Yes, but Boston is short on cap space and has stated clearly that they will be unable to sign Kessel. It is therefore worthwhile to explore options to trade for his RFA rights (besides the fact they obviously could not match an offer). Nobody said to sell the farm in order to obtain him... just that it was definitely worth exploring.
Jay

Columbus, OH

#19 Jul 16, 2009
Dan wrote:
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I don't know exactly what kind of pick Zednik would fetch at the deadline but that I wouldnt mind. Williams...ehhh maybe but I don't really see the point, although it could be worse I guess. Kessel is an RFA, I'm not sure if you know how that works but Boston can match any offer and if Kessel accepts the offer of another team Boston gets compensated with draft picks.
If we were to offer (and have him accept), and these are just rounded numbers, 3 - 4.5 we would have to give Boston a 1st and 3rd. if we offered/he accepted 4.5 - 6 we'd give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. 6-7.5 gets 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd. over 7.5 gets 4 firsts
Giving up that many draft picks for one player is NUTS!

I still think Snow needs to sign another 2nd line winger and an enforcer. But I'm just a fan.
Battfist

Trenton, NJ

#20 Jul 16, 2009
Tavares will live up to the hype.

35-42-77pts He will play a ton on the power play.

He's the next Joe Sakic....

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