Packers' porous defense not relishing 8-0 start

Nov 8, 2011 Full story: PageantCast News Desk 36

Green Bay Packers strong safety Charlie Peprah, left, intercepts a pass thrown by San Diego Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers in the final minute of the fourth quarter during an NFL football game, Sunday, Nov.

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GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#1 Nov 8, 2011
What a ridiculously absurd headline. Does the Packer defense really like the 8-0 start less than the offense or special teams? Maybe the defense actually hates being 8-0. Why not say that the Packers defense really wants to be 0-8? Then run around in traffic naked until men in white coats come along to lock you in padded cell.
The tator tot

Cleveland, OH

#2 Nov 8, 2011
What would be absurd is if the Packer Defense didn't take note to their ineptness in the Defensive backfiels...GBPfan, maybe you haven't noticed the look on our DB's faces as they look around wondering who's covering the WIDE OPEN receiver for the other team. THANK GOD we have an offense that can strike EVERY time they get their hands on the ball...don't be foolish thinkn' our Defense doesn't need to RECTIFY this before the playoffs...don't let your "Fandomship" get in the way of common sense. We got the Vikes next and we CAN'T afford to make the same mistakes against them 'cuz we will pay for it. Get the white coat ready if you can't grip this. GO PACK!!!
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#3 Nov 8, 2011
The Packers can afford to make the same mistakes by the dozen against the Vikings. McCarthy should give the team the rest of the week off and only play our backups. That MIGHT give the Vikings a sporting chance.

You can search the players faces for a look that upsets you. I'll be too busy watching the Packers light up the scoreboard like a pinball machine. In fact, you shouldn't watch the Packers at all if winning is too much for you to handle.

Take your Henny Penny routine on the road. We don't want it here. None of your stupid comments will cause the sky to fall.

BTW you chicken sh*t, the Packer offense didn't rectify all of it's problems last season and the Packers won the NFL Championship. The defense certainly doesn't need to rectify all of it's problems this year. But I'm reasonably confident that if the Packers defense can play as crappy as they did and still beat a good team on the road, those playoff games at home will be winnable games. It's about time the offense carried some of the weight of the team. We all knew they had it in them. Now that the offense is actually living up to it's potential the TRUE Packer fans have some confidence in them. You can doubt that the offense can play well enough to help the defense. However, if you want to doubt them, do it in silence.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#4 Nov 8, 2011
If you dont think the offense can have an off day,then your being naive at this point and if the offense has an off day and the defense keeps giving up the yards they are and now points,there's a loss and if its in the playoffs,then its the season.
I love the way the offense is playing but the defense has to play better.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#5 Nov 8, 2011
eric wrote:
If you dont think the offense can have an off day,then your being naive at this point and if the offense has an off day and the defense keeps giving up the yards they are and now points,there's a loss and if its in the playoffs,then its the season.
I love the way the offense is playing but the defense has to play better.
Don't be a moron. I never said the offense can't have an off day! I've never bitched about the offense having an off day. It happens. Defenses have off days sometimes too. Last year the offense had more off days. This year I believe the defense has had more off days. The Packers are still 8-0. Do you know why? BECAUSE football is a TEAM game! And the Packers are a very good TEAM.

BTW in your scenario of a playoff loss YOU said the OFFENSE has an off day. So apparently you are going to blame the defense for losing if the offense has an off day. Be stupid if you insist. The fact is that both the offense and defense either win or they both lose. You really don't understand how a TEAM works, do you?
PackerBacker-Wic hitaKs

Wichita, KS

#6 Nov 8, 2011
eric wrote:
If you dont think the offense can have an off day,then your being naive at this point and if the offense has an off day and the defense keeps giving up the yards they are and now points,there's a loss and if its in the playoffs,then its the season.
I love the way the offense is playing but the defense has to play better.
Regardless of this being a TEAM game I also agree that the defense needs to play better. Anyone that gets to the playoff is going to have a good TEAM and may be able to exploit the weaknesses in this defense. Right now I would not feel comfortable with the way this defense is playing if the playoffs started Sunday. Keep in mind, with colder weather coming, there could be a drop in the offense's numbers. 8 games for this defense to get better.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#7 Nov 8, 2011
8 games for this offense to get better.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#8 Nov 8, 2011
The morons made me change my mind. I no longer think of football as a team game. And the defense sucks so bad that the only way the Packers win is for the offenase to get better. 8 games for this offense to get better!

On second thought, I'm not comfortable being bat crap crazy. I'll stick with understanding football and the TEAM concept. I KNOW for an absolute fact that the Packers can win another Championship with this team. Those that don't think so, need not whine. The whining won't help the slightest bit.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#9 Nov 8, 2011
GBPfan wrote:
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Don't be a moron. I never said the offense can't have an off day! I've never bitched about the offense having an off day. It happens. Defenses have off days sometimes too. Last year the offense had more off days. This year I believe the defense has had more off days. The Packers are still 8-0. Do you know why? BECAUSE football is a TEAM game! And the Packers are a very good TEAM.
BTW in your scenario of a playoff loss YOU said the OFFENSE has an off day. So apparently you are going to blame the defense for losing if the offense has an off day. Be stupid if you insist. The fact is that both the offense and defense either win or they both lose. You really don't understand how a TEAM works, do you?
Name calling still hah? Did you ever hear the golf saying,Drive for show,putt for dough..well offense selling tix,defense wins championships.Remember last year,it was the defense that had a HUGE hand in beating Chi.Yes,you win or lose as a team but you cant expect to outscore everyone everyweek,Just ask N.E. after Brady had his 50td single didgit INT season in 08,crushed everyone,every week,until the NYG defense held Brady and Co. to 10 points in the SB ( 10 or 14 either way it was WAY under what they usually score)
eric

Marshfield, WI

#10 Nov 8, 2011
PackerBacker-WichitaKs wrote:
<quoted text>Regardless of this being a TEAM game I also agree that the defense needs to play better. Anyone that gets to the playoff is going to have a good TEAM and may be able to exploit the weaknesses in this defense. Right now I would not feel comfortable with the way this defense is playing if the playoffs started Sunday. Keep in mind, with colder weather coming, there could be a drop in the offense's numbers. 8 games for this defense to get better.
True,you may need to start running more in the cold,so its lower scoring but becareful or you may be called a moron or some other name by the insecure jerk ( although i noticed hes been doing a bit all along,but, whatever)
Championshipfart s

Katy, TX

#11 Nov 8, 2011
So the Packers re-write the cliché defense wins championships to offense can as well...as long as it gets the job done...8-0 why sweat it...
eric

Marshfield, WI

#12 Nov 8, 2011
GBPfan wrote:
The morons made me change my mind. I no longer think of football as a team game. And the defense sucks so bad that the only way the Packers win is for the offenase to get better. 8 games for this offense to get better!
On second thought, I'm not comfortable being bat crap crazy. I'll stick with understanding football and the TEAM concept. I KNOW for an absolute fact that the Packers can win another Championship with this team. Those that don't think so, need not whine. The whining won't help the slightest bit.
Your right,it is a team game,so dont you think the defense has to tighten it up and not give up as many yards? There is no doubt GB is the best team in the NFL and we are more then capable of winning the SB this year and prob.for the next few years as the core is signed,young, together and well coached by one of the best coaches in the NFL,led by one of if not the best GM in football Ted Thompson.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#13 Nov 9, 2011
eric wrote:
<quoted text>Name calling still hah? Did you ever hear the golf saying,Drive for show,putt for dough..well offense selling tix,defense wins championships.Remember last year,it was the defense that had a HUGE hand in beating Chi.Yes,you win or lose as a team but you cant expect to outscore everyone everyweek,Just ask N.E. after Brady had his 50td single didgit INT season in 08,crushed everyone,every week,until the NYG defense held Brady and Co. to 10 points in the SB ( 10 or 14 either way it was WAY under what they usually score)
The definition of winning in the NFL is "outscoring" your opponenet. So yes, I expect the Packers to outscore everyone. The Packers TEAM has done that eight times so far this season. Apparently you haven't noticed that Henny Penny. For your information, the GREEN BAY PACKERS are not the New England Patriots.

And thank you for using the Patriot/Giant SB as an example. That game proves that I'm right! The Patriots lost as a TEAM! It makes no sense to blame the Patriots offense or defense. If you insist on being one of those stupid people that needs to blame the offense or defense, wasn't it the Patriot OFFENSE that failed? If you had actually watched the Super Bowl that year you would have noticed that the Patriots held the Giants to a mere 17 points. It was the crappy Patriot offense that only scored 14 points. I'm being facetious. IN REALITY the Patriots offense did not lose that game. The Patriot TEAM lost that game. If and when the Packers lose this year it will also be a TEAM accomplishment.

BTW what kind of PACKER fan starts criticizing the team for being 8-0? I'm sorry your majesty that the Packers are not winning all of their games exactly how you would like them to win. You spent years making every excuse possible for Packer failure. Now that they are winning, you criticize the winning! What kind of lunatic are you? I swear you would rather see the Packers lose so you can do what you do best -- make excuses for failure. For once in your life, accept and enjoy the fact that the Packers are winners!
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#14 Nov 9, 2011
Championshipfarts wrote:
So the Packers re-write the cliché defense wins championships to offense can as well...as long as it gets the job done...8-0 why sweat it...
Thank you for the apparently uncommon common sense. As with every cliche, there is some truth to it, but it is also an oversimplification. Can you believe that some Packer fans refuse to accept being undefeated?
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#15 Nov 9, 2011
eric wrote:
<quoted text>Your right,it is a team game,so dont you think the defense has to tighten it up and not give up as many yards? There is no doubt GB is the best team in the NFL and we are more then capable of winning the SB this year and prob.for the next few years as the core is signed,young, together and well coached by one of the best coaches in the NFL,led by one of if not the best GM in football Ted Thompson.
I know for a fact that the defense does not need to tighten it up and I've got the 8-0 record to prove it! Yes, I would like the Packer defense to play better. I would also like the offense to play better. I would like the special teams to play better. I would like the coaches to coach better. I would like the Packers to have better players. And I would like the Packers to win every game with a shutout and with the offense scoring at least 70 points. It's nice to live in my head. However, in the real world, teams win and lose as TEAMS and it's not always perfect. No matter how pretty or ugly or unbalanced or dramatic or stressful or miraculous or lucky, it doesn't get any better than 8-0 after 8 games.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#16 Nov 9, 2011
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
The definition of winning in the NFL is "outscoring" your opponenet. So yes, I expect the Packers to outscore everyone. The Packers TEAM has done that eight times so far this season. Apparently you haven't noticed that Henny Penny. For your information, the GREEN BAY PACKERS are not the New England Patriots.
And thank you for using the Patriot/Giant SB as an example. That game proves that I'm right! The Patriots lost as a TEAM! It makes no sense to blame the Patriots offense or defense. If you insist on being one of those stupid people that needs to blame the offense or defense, wasn't it the Patriot OFFENSE that failed? If you had actually watched the Super Bowl that year you would have noticed that the Patriots held the Giants to a mere 17 points. It was the crappy Patriot offense that only scored 14 points. I'm being facetious. IN REALITY the Patriots offense did not lose that game. The Patriot TEAM lost that game. If and when the Packers lose this year it will also be a TEAM accomplishment.
BTW what kind of PACKER fan starts criticizing the team for being 8-0? I'm sorry your majesty that the Packers are not winning all of their games exactly how you would like them to win. You spent years making every excuse possible for Packer failure. Now that they are winning, you criticize the winning! What kind of lunatic are you? I swear you would rather see the Packers lose so you can do what you do best -- make excuses for failure. For once in your life, accept and enjoy the fact that the Packers are winners!
I accept,enjoy and love the fact they are winning.Im just stating my opinion.Maybe the Packers can outscore everyone and win it all again,but if the defense gives up a ton of points,its tough to depend on the offense to carry the slack.
As usual your comprehension needs serious work.The S.B. point was N.E. was scoring at will,THEN, they faced a serious defense on a roll in the NYG and N.E. lost so i didnt prove you were right,i proved a great offense can be stopped with a great defense ( like NYG did that 1 game) and if that happens to us and our defense is still allowing points,guess what happens? yep,I spent years standing up for Packer failure? You mean the SB champs led by the best ( or one of the best) GM's in the game Ted Thompson.While you bashed the GM,the Coach,fellow posters and fellow Packer fans for standing up for the 2 KNOWING the greatness this team will achieve and you bashed them to no end,calling folks names endlessly, being a classless jerk and all in an effort to prove you are the king Packer fan and covering up your insecurities and or whatever? YEP, what a horrible person(s) we or I am.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#17 Nov 9, 2011
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
I know for a fact that the defense does not need to tighten it up and I've got the 8-0 record to prove it! Yes, I would like the Packer defense to play better. I would also like the offense to play better. I would like the special teams to play better. I would like the coaches to coach better. I would like the Packers to have better players. And I would like the Packers to win every game with a shutout and with the offense scoring at least 70 points. It's nice to live in my head. However, in the real world, teams win and lose as TEAMS and it's not always perfect. No matter how pretty or ugly or unbalanced or dramatic or stressful or miraculous or lucky, it doesn't get any better than 8-0 after 8 games.
The important thing is coach Mc and the players know they are not playing at their best and can improve and need to clean it up ( ive heard coach Mc. mention many times,need to clean it up,so its not me) so they will keep working on it and try to improve at every aspect and take nothing for granted!
DEWY

Marshfield, WI

#18 Nov 9, 2011
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
The definition of winning in the NFL is "outscoring" your opponenet. So yes, I expect the Packers to outscore everyone. The Packers TEAM has done that eight times so far this season. Apparently you haven't noticed that Henny Penny. For your information, the GREEN BAY PACKERS are not the New England Patriots.
And thank you for using the Patriot/Giant SB as an example. That game proves that I'm right! The Patriots lost as a TEAM! It makes no sense to blame the Patriots offense or defense. If you insist on being one of those stupid people that needs to blame the offense or defense, wasn't it the Patriot OFFENSE that failed? If you had actually watched the Super Bowl that year you would have noticed that the Patriots held the Giants to a mere 17 points. It was the crappy Patriot offense that only scored 14 points. I'm being facetious. IN REALITY the Patriots offense did not lose that game. The Patriot TEAM lost that game. If and when the Packers lose this year it will also be a TEAM accomplishment.
BTW what kind of PACKER fan starts criticizing the team for being 8-0? I'm sorry your majesty that the Packers are not winning all of their games exactly how you would like them to win. You spent years making every excuse possible for Packer failure. Now that they are winning, you criticize the winning! What kind of lunatic are you? I swear you would rather see the Packers lose so you can do what you do best -- make excuses for failure. For once in your life, accept and enjoy the fact that the Packers are winners!
He has been known to say and has made post that A SINGLE PLAYER HAS LOST THE GAME FOR THE TEAM. With comments like if so and so would have done this or that they would have won.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#19 Nov 9, 2011
eric wrote:
<quoted text>I accept,enjoy and love the fact they are winning.Im just stating my opinion.Maybe the Packers can outscore everyone and win it all again,but if the defense gives up a ton of points,its tough to depend on the offense to carry the slack.
As usual your comprehension needs serious work.The S.B. point was N.E. was scoring at will,THEN, they faced a serious defense on a roll in the NYG and N.E. lost so i didnt prove you were right,i proved a great offense can be stopped with a great defense ( like NYG did that 1 game) and if that happens to us and our defense is still allowing points,guess what happens? yep,I spent years standing up for Packer failure? You mean the SB champs led by the best ( or one of the best) GM's in the game Ted Thompson.While you bashed the GM,the Coach,fellow posters and fellow Packer fans for standing up for the 2 KNOWING the greatness this team will achieve and you bashed them to no end,calling folks names endlessly, being a classless jerk and all in an effort to prove you are the king Packer fan and covering up your insecurities and or whatever? YEP, what a horrible person(s) we or I am.
AGAIN, the GREEN BAY PACKERS are not the New England Patriots. And if the Packer offense gets stopped by a great defense then it wouldn't only be a problem with the defense, would it? Again, you prove that I am right about it being a TEAM game.

I can't believe you are saying anything about my comprehenesion ability when you have zero comprehension skills. First, I mentioned the years of your excuse making. Anybody that has been here knows that for themselves. You are simply proving to those people that you also are a liar if you deny that. Second, I never said the PACKERS can't lose. They can. But if it happens it will happen as a TEAM.

The Packer's have the number one scoring offense. Every opponent has a game plan of trying to score as many points as possible. Every opponent gets up for their game against the undefeated Champs. And every opponent is playing much of each game from behind the Packers on the scoreboard. That distorts stats a bit. Yet despite all those things the PACKER defense is right in the middle ranked number 17 for points allowed. Panic if you want to Henny Penny, but the sky is not falling. The Packers average scoring 12 more points per game than they give up. That's pretty good. Relax and enjoy it. Show a little faith.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#20 Nov 9, 2011
DEWY wrote:
<quoted text> He has been known to say and has made post that A SINGLE PLAYER HAS LOST THE GAME FOR THE TEAM. With comments like if so and so would have done this or that they would have won.
I know. He has his favorite players so he wants to blame certain other players. And as I said he has a million ways of making excuses for failure. Having a particular scapegoat is one of his ways to make excuses. His NEED to make excuses for failure is so strong, he's making anticipatory excuses for failure while the Packers are 8-0. There is no need. The coaches work on improving problems on the offense and defense each and every week all season long. They did a pretty nice job last season. The coaching staff seems to be doing a BETTER job this season so far.

I know this. The Packers may lose a game at some time. If and when it happens, there will be people that feel a need to point fingers. Some people are all about assigning blame. In a team sport that is unproductive. A TEAM works best when each person involved spends their time focused on what they can do to contribute to success instead of focusing on whom to blame. Because in the end, the entire team either wins or loses. Blame doesn't change a thing. It's a waste of time and it's counter productive.

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