Forget What the Records Say, the Gree...

Forget What the Records Say, the Green Bay Packers Are the NFC's Best Team

There are 109 comments on the BleacherReport story from Nov 20, 2012, titled Forget What the Records Say, the Green Bay Packers Are the NFC's Best Team. In it, BleacherReport reports that:

Since the replacement referee debacle on Monday Night Football in Seattle in Week 5 dropped their record to 2-3, the Packers have reeled off five consecutive wins.

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eric

Marshfield, WI

#81 Nov 23, 2012
noshville wrote:
What is the status of Dereck Sherrod/OT?
Derrick Sherrod wont be close enough to play to stay on the roster.Coach McCarthy is letting him practice ( up until now at least) but Derrick doesnt have much time left to be healthy enough to play and hes to far,so Sherrod will be placed on IR when his time runs out and the Packers have to make a decision about the matter.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#82 Nov 23, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
I know Vikes have not won Sb,s. There has been some times they choked and didnt do it. A few times they got cheated(1998and 2009). I do honestly believe that in next few years the Vikes will get to and win the Superbowl. Unless the Refs and the NFL cheat them again.
You honestly never know,IF Minnesota has a good drafting.Y. team and a good coaching staff to guide the players,its certainly possible.YOu have a good front 7 and a better Secondary ( then you have hd the past few years) a young qb who may end up being a solid qb in this league and the best RB in the game today,so if you can find another good WR or a good deep threat and increase the TE play,it can be done and it certainly has been.You ( at this point) made some good strides from last years 3 win season and there is work to be done but you have shown nice progress at this point nad from last place to a game under 1st and a shot at a playoff spot is a good start with a relatively new coach ect.

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#83 Nov 23, 2012
eric wrote:
<quoted text>SO when did the refs screw them? WHen your kicker missed a chip shot vs ATL in the NFC title game,,or when Favre threw the INT vs N.O. in the NFC title game costing them a shot at a last second FG try and a trip to the SB?
It was 3rd and 12. The Vikes were close to field goal range. The Falcons took a time out. Then they took another time out again without a play being run..THAT IS ILLEGAL AND A 16 YARD PENALTY. the refs didnt give that penalty. Then the Vikes did have to kick that field goal. The kicker got leveled just as he kicked. SHOULD HAVE BEEN ROUGING THE KICKER. Nope refs did not call that either..YES THE VIKES GOT SCREWED.

Oh and in 2009 did you not ehar about all the dirty illegal shots Frave had on him that the refs never called.

Yes other eyars they choked. Those two years they got screwed. Anyone who is a true NFL fan knows this.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#84 Nov 23, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
Fans like you are not good for the NFL. I will admit the Pcak has had great years and been the best at times. I will admit you have a great QB. I do know if Rodgers got hurt or could not play the Pack would be a 500 team or less. You know that also. Th Pack was great for years because of Farve. He left and they sucked for years. I do get the one year in last 10 the Vikes were great we had Frave as Qb. Again I say the Pack defense is bottomw ten at best and without Rodgers your offense is horrible. FACTS ARE FACTS.
Now I ahve admited your team has had great years and been great.
Now look at the 1998 Vikes team...That team would have(did that year) beat any team the Pack has EVER had. The refs and the NFL screwed the Vikes that year for ratings of superbowl.
Thanks for your opinions. However, I'm not insecure about MY team or any of it's players. So I never needed or wanted your approval or recognition of the accomplishments of the Packers or any Packer players. The fact that the Packers and it's players are all over the NFL record book and occupy a large amount of space at the NFL Hall of Fame is sufficient for me. Viking fans can think anything they want to think.

I do enjoy your conpiracy theories though. Have you ever noticed that winners don't have conspiracy theories? Have you ever wondered why?
noshville

Louisville, TN

#85 Nov 23, 2012
Eric-Thanks 4 the update on Derrick Sherrod. I was hoping he might be
ready to play by late Dec.-Roster spot may open if RB Benson has
operation-just a long shot 4 a backup OT?

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#86 Nov 23, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for your opinions. However, I'm not insecure about MY team or any of it's players. So I never needed or wanted your approval or recognition of the accomplishments of the Packers or any Packer players. The fact that the Packers and it's players are all over the NFL record book and occupy a large amount of space at the NFL Hall of Fame is sufficient for me. Viking fans can think anything they want to think.
I do enjoy your conpiracy theories though. Have you ever noticed that winners don't have conspiracy theories? Have you ever wondered why?
You do know the Vikes have many many many players in the hall fo fame also. Not as many as the Pack but the Pack have been around for decades longer.

You have to know in 1998 the Vikes got screwed. I have many Pack fans who bleed greena nd gold that also admit it.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#87 Nov 23, 2012
eric wrote:
<quoted text>You honestly never know,IF Minnesota has a good drafting.Y. team and a good coaching staff to guide the players,its certainly possible.YOu have a good front 7 and a better Secondary ( then you have hd the past few years) a young qb who may end up being a solid qb in this league and the best RB in the game today,so if you can find another good WR or a good deep threat and increase the TE play,it can be done and it certainly has been.You ( at this point) made some good strides from last years 3 win season and there is work to be done but you have shown nice progress at this point nad from last place to a game under 1st and a shot at a playoff spot is a good start with a relatively new coach ect.
And if the Rams, Seahawks, Cardinals, Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Jaguars, Lions, Panthers, Raiders, Chargers, Bengals, Browns, Titans, Eagles, Redskins, Bucs and Colts draft well it's certainly posible that they will win a Super Bowl soon too. You know, if the refs don't cheat them!
GBPmies

Finland

#88 Nov 23, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
Fans like you are not good for the NFL. I will admit the Pcak has had great years and been the best at times. I will admit you have a great QB. I do know if Rodgers got hurt or could not play the Pack would be a 500 team or less. You know that also. Th Pack was great for years because of Farve. He left and they sucked for years. I do get the one year in last 10 the Vikes were great we had Frave as Qb. Again I say the Pack defense is bottomw ten at best and without Rodgers your offense is horrible. FACTS ARE FACTS.
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OPINIONS ARE OPINIONS you should have said.(Reminds me of ezg)

These are facts

Defense Stats

pts / game
Packers 20.7
Vikings 22.1

Total yrds / game
Packers 343.9
Vikings 340.7

passing yards /game
Packers 244.1
Vikings 229.1

rushing yards /game
Packers 99.5
Vikings 111.6

Sacks
Packers 33
Vikings 26

INTs
Packers 12
Vikings 5
FF FR

Packers 6-4
Vikings 10-7

Do you thin the Viking's defense is great? How do you think the Vikings defense is SO much beter? What have they done that is much better than the Packers?
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#89 Nov 23, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
It was 3rd and 12. The Vikes were close to field goal range. The Falcons took a time out. Then they took another time out again without a play being run..THAT IS ILLEGAL AND A 16 YARD PENALTY. the refs didnt give that penalty. Then the Vikes did have to kick that field goal. The kicker got leveled just as he kicked. SHOULD HAVE BEEN ROUGING THE KICKER. Nope refs did not call that either..YES THE VIKES GOT SCREWED.
Oh and in 2009 did you not ehar about all the dirty illegal shots Frave had on him that the refs never called.
Yes other eyars they choked. Those two years they got screwed. Anyone who is a true NFL fan knows this.
Please stop. You a going to make me cry! The poor, poor Vikings are obviously losing only because of the conspiracy of the NFL against them. I agree, but you are only talking about one part of the conspiracy. The most effective and clever part of the conspiracy was the way the NFL has made the Vikings hire crappy coaches and draft poorly!
eric

Marshfield, WI

#90 Nov 23, 2012
noshville wrote:
Eric-Thanks 4 the update on Derrick Sherrod. I was hoping he might be
ready to play by late Dec.-Roster spot may open if RB Benson has
operation-just a long shot 4 a backup OT?
Glad i can help,I too were wishing he would be back for the final 5 games or so,but, Sherrod is just not healthy enough to go.Coach Mc said in one of his pressers,hes limping around and just not up to speed to play.Im now hoping he does heal to the point,he can play effectively next year.I think ( IMO) we are going with what we have.Lang at RT, Even D-S at LG nad lord help us if we have another injury as Barclay and VanRoten are the only 2 guys left as Backups.Both were very impressive during camp and preseason games but that is preseason and we are now talking a playoff run.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#91 Nov 23, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know the Vikes have many many many players in the hall fo fame also. Not as many as the Pack but the Pack have been around for decades longer.
You have to know in 1998 the Vikes got screwed. I have many Pack fans who bleed greena nd gold that also admit it.
I know the Vikings have players in the Hall of Fame. And in 1998 the better team won. If the Vikings got screwed, it was because the Vikings screwed themselves with using a game plan that was different than every game they played previously. In any event, it isn't like the Vikings even made it to the Super Bowl, let alone would have won it. Would you have been happier if it was the Vikings that got killed by the Broncos in the Super Bowl?
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#92 Nov 23, 2012
GBPmies wrote:
<quoted text>
OPINIONS ARE OPINIONS you should have said.(Reminds me of ezg)
These are facts
Defense Stats
pts / game
Packers 20.7
Vikings 22.1
Total yrds / game
Packers 343.9
Vikings 340.7
passing yards /game
Packers 244.1
Vikings 229.1
rushing yards /game
Packers 99.5
Vikings 111.6
Sacks
Packers 33
Vikings 26
INTs
Packers 12
Vikings 5
FF FR
Packers 6-4
Vikings 10-7
Do you thin the Viking's defense is great? How do you think the Vikings defense is SO much beter? What have they done that is much better than the Packers?
FACTS ARE FACTS! It's humorous how Viking fans need to ignore the facts in order to claim the facts are important. Don't let him know that the fact is that the Packers have done it with many defensive rookies and with many starters on IR or missing games. He seems very jealous already. We shouldn't try to worsen his condition.

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#93 Nov 23, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
I know the Vikings have players in the Hall of Fame. And in 1998 the better team won. If the Vikings got screwed, it was because the Vikings screwed themselves with using a game plan that was different than every game they played previously. In any event, it isn't like the Vikings even made it to the Super Bowl, let alone would have won it. Would you have been happier if it was the Vikings that got killed by the Broncos in the Super Bowl?
Is taking two time outs in a row without play ran legal or not???

Is roughing the kicker illegal or not??

Both of those happened in 1998 and the refs did not call either....
eric

Marshfield, WI

#94 Nov 23, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
Is taking two time outs in a row without play ran legal or not???
Is roughing the kicker illegal or not??
Both of those happened in 1998 and the refs did not call either....
I seem to recall The Vikings kicker missing a chip shot which would have put them in the SB,also there is no proof Favre took any illegal hits in that 09 game vs NO,in fact,if Favre ran on that last play of Reg. instead of putting up a throw that got INT,Favre would have p.u. a few yards and set Ryan Longwell up for a FG of around 45 yards or so and being one of the most accurate kickers of all time,in a dome,at home,i would have liked his chances of hitting the FG and Minn. would have played in the SB..Calls or not,Favre INT cost Minn. a chance at a last second FG and a trip to the SB,so,the refs didnt cost them on that one
GBPmies

Finland

#96 Nov 23, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
Is taking two time outs in a row without play ran legal or not???
Is roughing the kicker illegal or not??
Both of those happened in 1998 and the refs did not call either....
Laces out! LOL!

Anderson choked get over it, he did.
It was good non call as far as I remember, creepy little Gary was not in a defenseless position when he was hit so there was no penalty. I would like to see a video of the hit if you have one. It would be funny to see. LOL!

Are you related to ezg by any chance?
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#97 Nov 23, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
Is taking two time outs in a row without play ran legal or not???
Is roughing the kicker illegal or not??
Both of those happened in 1998 and the refs did not call either....
Please stop. You are making me cry. I'm sad enough already. I remember the Super Bowl that year very well. I remember thinking: I wish it was the Vikings being annihilated and humiliated by the Broncos instead of the Falcons! If you recall the Broncos squeaked out a win against the Packers the previous year. I can't explain why, but the Vikings being completely dominated by the Broncos the very next year had a certain appeal to me.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#99 Nov 23, 2012
eric wrote:
<quoted text>I seem to recall The Vikings kicker missing a chip shot which would have put them in the SB,also there is no proof Favre took any illegal hits in that 09 game vs NO,in fact,if Favre ran on that last play of Reg. instead of putting up a throw that got INT,Favre would have p.u. a few yards and set Ryan Longwell up for a FG of around 45 yards or so and being one of the most accurate kickers of all time,in a dome,at home,i would have liked his chances of hitting the FG and Minn. would have played in the SB..Calls or not,Favre INT cost Minn. a chance at a last second FG and a trip to the SB,so,the refs didnt cost them on that one
Eric, have you ever met a Viking fan that does whine and make excuses? I have, but never on Topix! It's never easy to accept a loss, but apparently if a person roots for a team that has never known success, it's impossible. The Vikings lost both of those games and neither was the Super Bowl. If anybody should complain it is the Colts who would have won Super Bowl XLIV if they didn't have to play the Saints!
eric

Marshfield, WI

#101 Nov 23, 2012
OR the poor bastard who landed at the 1 when time ran out in Tenn.loss to STL in the SB several years back
eric

Marshfield, WI

#102 Nov 23, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
Eric, have you ever met a Viking fan that does whine and make excuses? I have, but never on Topix! It's never easy to accept a loss, but apparently if a person roots for a team that has never known success, it's impossible. The Vikings lost both of those games and neither was the Super Bowl. If anybody should complain it is the Colts who would have won Super Bowl XLIV if they didn't have to play the Saints!
Ive met plenty of viking fans and all of them are pretty pissed off for not winning a SB and losing in 4 of them in the 70s makes it worse. 98 nad 09,they were so close,but, whats a real pisser is they were so close in 09,they thought they had a great shot in 10 but Favre finally hit that wall he remarkably avoided for years and the year was much less then stellar.HECK,i sucked for us Packer fans in the 70s and 80s losing with consistancy,terrible draft picks,trades ect.We have been very lucky with our qb play for 20 years now and with 2 great GMs,Wolf and Thompson with Sherman squeezed in the Middle who did ok for himself,but, signing Joe Johnson nad signing Cledius Hunt and letting Vonnie Holliday go was his big no no.Wolfs was drafting John Michaels nad Ted's was Justin Harrell but all can claim real successs in many aspects as well in the draft. Minnesota had their moments but for the most part,lately, not real so much..09 was nice though for them
GBPmies

Finland

#103 Nov 23, 2012
When I think about the 09 Vikings all I can think is that..... not even one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game, having one his best years could even get them a Super Bowl ring. Damn what else did they need? They were pretty much set excpet they needed a QB. But nope they blow it!!! That is what they do :( So sad to be a Viking fan...

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