The Tale Of Two Ponders

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Sep 15, 2013; Chicago, IL, USA; Minnesota Vikings quarterback Christian Ponder drops back to pass against the Chicago Bears during the first quarter at Soldier Field.
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“5th Degree Black Belt”

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I'm expecting the best game of Ponder's career against the lowly Browns.

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WOW - That must be very hard for a closet Packers fan to say.
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Magnum Man II wrote:
WOW - That must be very hard for a closet Packers fan to say.
I like Frazier. He stays.

Ponder is Speilman's guy and we're going to ride Ponder to 4-12, 5-11, whatever..........

Little Dick Speilman has a lot of work ahead.
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The blame isn't only on Speilman If your going to put all the blame on Speilman then you also need to give him credit for all the good picks, That out number the Ponder pick. Frazier is the real blame here. Speilman has nothing to do with getting the team ready to play. Speilman has gave Frazier a team full of quality players & Frazier can't get them all on the same page.

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Harry wrote:
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I like Frazier. He stays.
Ponder is Speilman's guy and we're going to ride Ponder to 4-12, 5-11, whatever..........
Little Dick Speilman has a lot of work ahead.
I'm not sure where the fault lies. I know that we had injuries at CB (were down to our last one). I also know the entire secondary was picked apart (but that could also be part of not having a rush).

Frazier makes adjustments that are way better than Childress. I'm just not sure of the game plan? Seems we never throw on 1st down. It also seems we don't attempt to open the game up, so AP can get yardage.
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I am not all to sure that Frazier is better then Chlidress. If you want to argue who's the better of the two, Look at Frazier's winning perscentage to Chlidress. Fraziers will lose the argument.

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This guy can't spell or properly use the English language. So now he's going to play the math card. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Nope, Childress wasn't and isn't a better coach. He was a head-case and that is simply all there is to it. He definitely could not handle his players.

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Harry wrote:
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I like Frazier. He stays.
Ponder is Speilman's guy and we're going to ride Ponder to 4-12, 5-11, whatever..........
Little Dick Speilman has a lot of work ahead.
I'm still not completely sold on Ponder; YET..........but I don't think he has played that bad..........O is averaging 27 pts. a game and the D is giving up 32..........

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Also harry I am interested to see how much AP will improve once Feltons' suspension is over, he will most assuredly help the run game.................give Ponder til the end of the season.............it is his first full year..........then evaluate his worth................not all first or second year QB's can play like first ballot hall of Famers', still are grading him on a learning curve IMO. I am not giving up on this season yet..................

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erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>I'm still not completely sold on Ponder; YET..........but I don't think he has played that bad..........O is averaging 27 pts. a game and the D is giving up 32..........
You must be the only vikings fan who thinks Ponder hasn't played that bad. Our starting QB 2014 us still in college. Maybe you should stick to talking defense.

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By way of comparison, Ponder is head and shoulders above RG3PO. Why just last week RG3PO fumbled the ball and lost the game for the skins.

Avant must be the only non-Vikings fan that thinks RG3PO is better than Ponder.
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Matt Cassel deserves his shot. Skol Vikes!

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Avant wrote:
<quoted text>You must be the only vikings fan who thinks Ponder hasn't played that bad. Our starting QB 2014 us still in college. Maybe you should stick to talking defense.
If you watched the games you would have seen that the D is failing the Vikes, lot of injuries..........is Ponder playing like a Pro- Bowler..........absolutely not, again, first full year, I'm grading him on a learning curve right now..........evaluate at the end of the year..........if you watched football you would know 27 pts' per game avg. is pretty fukin good.
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Last year was Ponders first full year. But nonetheless..... Skol!
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erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>If you watched the games you would have seen that the D is failing the Vikes, lot of injuries..........is Ponder playing like a Pro- Bowler..........absolutely not, again, first full year, I'm grading him on a learning curve right now..........evaluate at the end of the year..........if you watched football you would know 27 pts' per game avg. is pretty fukin good.
Ponder has 2 TDs (and 5 INTs) over 3 games. That's 12 points total for all three games. 27 points per game? Closer to being in spite of Ponder rather than due to him.
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Samantha Ponder wrote:
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Ponder has 2 TDs (and 5 INTs) over 3 games.
That's awesome...even with the "great" Greg Jennings....

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erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>If you watched the games you would have seen that the D is failing the Vikes, lot of injuries..........is Ponder playing like a Pro- Bowler..........absolutely not, again, first full year, I'm grading him on a learning curve right now..........evaluate at the end of the year..........if you watched football you would know 27 pts' per game avg. is pretty fukin good.
Geno Smith a rookie looks better than Ponder ever has which is his problem. Either Ponder is good or not. He won't reach the end of the year as Vikings QB he is the same as he ever was, still the same, the song remains the same in other words he hasn't changed.

Vikings will never be a super bowl contending team until we get a QB. The Cleveland Browns had it right until they beat us. Now we have a one game plus the tie breaker for one of the best QB classes ever 2014.
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'grading him on a learning curve'....Try grading his learning curve instead...F...

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erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>If you watched the games you would have seen that the D is failing the Vikes, lot of injuries..........is Ponder playing like a Pro- Bowler..........absolutely not, again, first full year, I'm grading him on a learning curve right now..........evaluate at the end of the year..........if you watched football you would know 27 pts' per game avg. is pretty fukin good.
Your QB evaluating skills have regressed. I didn't expect most people to know Ponder would fail as I did but as of 9/26/2013 most people see my vision.Ponder has failed and there is no turning back.

Bridgewater, Hundley, Mariota or Boyd will be the Vikings QB next year, THAT IS A FACT!
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erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>If you watched the games you would have seen that the D is failing the Vikes, lot of injuries..........is Ponder playing like a Pro- Bowler..........absolutely not, again, first full year, I'm grading him on a learning curve right now..........evaluate at the end of the year..........if you watched football you would know 27 pts' per game avg. is pretty fukin good.
I always like to see 8 or so games before I evaluate a player. 27 point average is darn good But there is also a down side to his game, Ponder in three games has 5 INTs & 2 fumbles. Giving the ball up 7 times is inexcusable But I don't think Ponder should get all the blame. Last season the Vikes ofensive line blocked a lot better & I think that has a lot to do with Ponder's play this season. I would like the line to get it together before I give a final opinion.

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