Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#1 Nov 12, 2012
Since the late 90's an elite Qb has won the S.B.Namely the Manning's,Brady,Big Ben,Rodgers,Brees,Elway,Favre.
2 exceptions,Balt and T.B. both had incredible defenses.As these guys age,replacements will almost certainly come from the likes of Ryan,Luck for starters.One could question what makes these guys great,OL?Wr?Accuracy in passing is a given.
So let's all way in on what makes a Qb great.
If we can't win it that way,I suggest we get that defense.It's what i suggested in last draft.
Thoughts????This could be a great debate.Try leaving the bias home on this one,at least where it doesn't make much sense.

“HHhhhoooowwwlll”

Since: Feb 08

Craigville

#2 Nov 12, 2012
Ultra competitive, most greats have some intangibles.
Brady was big and slow, Tark was short and fast. Marino had a rocket arm, Montana had great touch.
Pocket Presence, Fran seemed to have eyes on the back of his head and many times wouldn't flush until the exact right moment.
Favre had an iron will, and a linebackers mentality.

Simply put, what makes a QB great is a perfect blend of smarts to compensate for any physical/athletic limitations. Pro QB isn't an easy position to fill, at least with any regular success.

“Zimmer Turner Overdrive”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#3 Nov 23, 2012
They have vision accuracy quick releases usually. And the leadership it factor

Since: Dec 06

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#4 Nov 23, 2012
Childress wrote:
Since the late 90's an elite Qb has won the S.B.Namely the Manning's,Brady,Big Ben,Rodgers,Brees,Elway,Favre.
2 exceptions,Balt and T.B. both had incredible defenses.As these guys age,replacements will almost certainly come from the likes of Ryan,Luck for starters.One could question what makes these guys great,OL?Wr?Accuracy in passing is a given.
So let's all way in on what makes a Qb great.
If we can't win it that way,I suggest we get that defense.It's what i suggested in last draft.
Thoughts????This could be a great debate.Try leaving the bias home on this one,at least where it doesn't make much sense.
Eli Manning is not an elite QB but he had elite/lucky moments that lead to victory. What successful NFL team want is a consistent QB who can do more than manage a game.
Magnum Man

Christopher, IL

#5 Nov 23, 2012
Avant wrote:
<quoted text>Eli Manning is not an elite QB but he had elite/lucky moments that lead to victory. What successful NFL team want is a consistent QB who can do more than manage a game.
Tavaris Jackson isn't an elite either! But he's your man!

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#6 Nov 24, 2012
Eli has 2 SB rings and isn't elite but Scam Newton and RGIII with no rings and no winning seasons are?

How's Tarvaris Jackson's Hall of Fame future looking these days. You can never live it down that you predicted he would be a future HoFer.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#7 Nov 24, 2012
Stubby wrote:
Eli has 2 SB rings and isn't elite but Scam Newton and RGIII with no rings and no winning seasons are?
How's Tarvaris Jackson's Hall of Fame future looking these days. You can never live it down that you predicted he would be a future HoFer.
You don't listen. Nobody said Newton was elite only his 2nd season. RG3 is elite.

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#8 Nov 25, 2012
Avant wrote:
<quoted text>You don't listen. Nobody said Newton was elite only his 2nd season. RG3 is elite.
You did dumbass. Another lie you are gong to tell now and pretend it didn't happen. Leave you lier. Just leave.

Since: Dec 06

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#9 Nov 25, 2012
Stubby wrote:
<quoted text>
You did dumbass. Another lie you are gong to tell now and pretend it didn't happen. Leave you lier. Just leave.
Show me where I said Newton was elite. You are like fox news and the right wing media. Just like the elections you get everything wrong.

“Time to look to next year!”

Since: Jan 07

Detroit Lakes, MN

#10 Nov 25, 2012
The Vikings are still searching for their QB, because Ponder isn't the answer! They should probably be looking for a coach as well! A .375 winning percentage isn't NFL caliber material..........
Magnum Man

Christopher, IL

#11 Nov 25, 2012
Stubby wrote:
<quoted text>
You did dumbass. Another lie you are gong to tell now and pretend it didn't happen. Leave you lier. Just leave.
If he didn't come out and say it, it was definately implied!

Since: Dec 06

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#12 Nov 25, 2012
Magnum Man wrote:
<quoted text>If he didn't come out and say it, it was definately implied!
How confident am I that I never said Newton was elite YET? I will leave this forum you anybody find a post where I said Newton is elite. I know everything I ever said.

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#13 Nov 26, 2012
Semantics. You called Newton the greatest of all time.

You continue to be nothing but a pathetic lier.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#14 Nov 26, 2012
Avant didn't know the word elite,until we put it out there.He uses words like All Star a baseball term,best ever,greatest,but it all means the same as elite.And he never remembers anything,so there's a lie.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#15 Nov 26, 2012
Stubby wrote:
Semantics. You called Newton the greatest of all time.
You continue to be nothing but a pathetic lier.
I called Newton the greatest ROOKIE of all time but that was last year RG3 is now the greatest ROOKIE of all time and YES RG3 is elite.

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#16 Nov 26, 2012
No you didn't specify rookie. You flat out declared Scam the greatest of all time.

You are once again a liar. I'll keep calling you out on it too so why don't you go away.

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#17 Nov 26, 2012
Childress wrote:
Avant didn't know the word elite,until we put it out there.He uses words like All Star a baseball term,best ever,greatest,but it all means the same as elite.And he never remembers anything,so there's a lie.
Avant's version of elite includes stating Tarvaris Jackson would go to 6 pro bowls in a row.

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Liar's get caught every time.
Harry

Los Angeles, CA

#18 Nov 27, 2012
Avant wrote:
<quoted text>I called Newton the greatest ROOKIE of all time but that was last year RG3 is now the greatest ROOKIE of all time and YES RG3 is elite.
Did U really think TJoke would make the ProBowl?

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