** Proper RT compensation **

“Zimmer Turner Overdrive”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#1 Mar 28, 2013

“Zimmer Turner Overdrive”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#2 Mar 28, 2013
Kanfan

United States

#3 Mar 28, 2013
Purple Faithful wrote:
http://www.overthecap.com/top- player-salaries.php?Position=R T
Yeah, while I'm not real hep on Loadholt, he fits what we do better than Vollemer.

“Zimmer Turner Overdrive”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#4 Mar 28, 2013
well, Kanfan, the vikes were 6-6 last year in games without a return TD. That's with an MVP peterson performance and a last place schedule. Vikings offense scored the same as the defense gave up.(that's a .500 team)

Vollemer is a fine enough RT (blocks for the statue Brady), and so is Loadholdt, my point is simply the Vikes are spending HUGE dough at OT - with draft choices and contracts where Spielman panics. In 3 years, Vikes will have 20 million in OT.
Kanfan

United States

#5 Mar 28, 2013
Purple Faithful wrote:
well, Kanfan, the vikes were 6-6 last year in games without a return TD. That's with an MVP peterson performance and a last place schedule. Vikings offense scored the same as the defense gave up.(that's a .500 team)
Vollemer is a fine enough RT (blocks for the statue Brady), and so is Loadholdt, my point is simply the Vikes are spending HUGE dough at OT - with draft choices and contracts where Spielman panics. In 3 years, Vikes will have 20 million in OT.
Didn't I read where Loadholt is only guaranteed 8 mil? I wouldn't have given a RT that much...so, yep, Spielman over-reacted. For all-around talent, pass and rush, I would have liked to see what Schwartz could do. We had the chance to experiment, we failed. So now we pay.....

“Zimmer Turner Overdrive”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#6 Mar 28, 2013
Kanfan wrote:
<quoted text>Didn't I read where Loadholt is only guaranteed 8 mil? I wouldn't have given a RT that much...so, yep, Spielman over-reacted. For all-around talent, pass and rush, I would have liked to see what Schwartz could do. We had the chance to experiment, we failed. So now we pay.....
yep. I wonder what the team will look like in 3 years. Next year all three DE's hit the market. Bet Griffen commands big bucks - young pass rusher, potential 3-4 rush olb, and an excellent one. Big money in 3 years on Loadholdt, Kalil (vikes usually rip up at premier positions a year early for rookies), AD, Greenway. KWill will be gone, saving dough. I suppose it will work out, Bryz is the man
Kanfan

United States

#7 Mar 29, 2013
Purple Faithful wrote:
<quoted text>yep. I wonder what the team will look like in 3 years. Next year all three DE's hit the market. Bet Griffen commands big bucks - young pass rusher, potential 3-4 rush olb, and an excellent one. Big money in 3 years on Loadholdt, Kalil (vikes usually rip up at premier positions a year early for rookies), AD, Greenway. KWill will be gone, saving dough. I suppose it will work out, Bryz is the man
I'm all in for extending Griffen NOW. Let Allen walk, 17 Mil is just too much. I like Allen but business is business...and this is a team sport....and 1 splashy play per game don't cut it. That and I read where Allen had both a shoulder AND a knee operation this off-season. We have the people to move to Allen's position, not so much in back-ups in Winfields spot (CB). I think Allen will be asked to re-negotiate yet this year.

“Zimmer Turner Overdrive”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#8 Mar 29, 2013
Kanfan wrote:
<quoted text>I'm all in for extending Griffen NOW. Let Allen walk, 17 Mil is just too much. I like Allen but business is business...and this is a team sport....and 1 splashy play per game don't cut it. That and I read where Allen had both a shoulder AND a knee operation this off-season. We have the people to move to Allen's position, not so much in back-ups in Winfields spot (CB). I think Allen will be asked to re-negotiate yet this year.
I think we keep Griffen and maybe Allen. Robison walks, but he shouldn't be too expensive. I just imagine we'll follow same formula and draft a DE this year to bring along.

Allen could be reasonable, though. Market for old pass rushers dried up, they are not getting jack. Allen's the face of the defense, too. I think Vikes show him more love than Winfield, make a real offer next offseason.

As for extending Griffen now, at what pay rate? Griffen would probably be coveted by every 3-4 team in the league. A lightning fast young James Harrison, you know. Unless vikes do cut/renegotiate with Allen, doubt they got cap space to do him right now. I wonder what Griffen could be traded for, if the vikes think griffen might command too much.
Kanfan

United States

#9 Mar 30, 2013
Purple Faithful wrote:
<quoted text>I think we keep Griffen and maybe Allen. Robison walks, but he shouldn't be too expensive. I just imagine we'll follow same formula and draft a DE this year to bring along.
Allen could be reasonable, though. Market for old pass rushers dried up, they are not getting jack. Allen's the face of the defense, too. I think Vikes show him more love than Winfield, make a real offer next offseason.
As for extending Griffen now, at what pay rate? Griffen would probably be coveted by every 3-4 team in the league. A lightning fast young James Harrison, you know. Unless vikes do cut/renegotiate with Allen, doubt they got cap space to do him right now. I wonder what Griffen could be traded for, if the vikes think griffen might command too much.
Next season? Him being a FA, we lose bargaining power. I like Allen..BUT 17 mil = 1 mil/sack...too much considering we do have options. I would extend Griffen at something like 4 mil, w/ 5 mil signing bonus. WE are just wasting Griffen, considering his height, speed and strength. LB? Move Henderson to MLB, with Griffen as OLB? We'd be lucky to get a 3rd, considering we drafted him in rd 4. He's a 1st rd talent. Re-do Allen at 7.5 mil.

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