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Since: Dec 06

Spring Hill, FL

#103 Aug 19, 2013
Cousins is worth a 4th,3rd at best.An unproven commodity.I seen his stats,so posting them doesn't change my mind.Many qb's coming out are worth a higher pick.Jon Gruden has never been a Qb developer or even good at identifying one.Com pound that with avants Culpepper/Jackson laughable evaluations,it all adds up to,
HELL NO.
If the team needs to start over at the Qb position,a proven veteran and a drafted rookie is the correct formula.When the rookie is ready,in he goes.And that rookie needs to be the right draft pick.Tired of qb's coming,going,discussing.

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#104 Aug 19, 2013
On national television Jon Gruden said he would trade a first round pick for Cousins so experts are lining up agreeing with me on Monday Night football.

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#105 Aug 19, 2013
This is why you can't stand me all experts agree with me and they do it with a microphone.

Since: Dec 06

Spring Hill, FL

#106 Aug 19, 2013
I already explained Gruden as I knew it would be your crutch.He was shot down in many a story.A real NF present coach drafted him in the 4th where he was expected to be drafted.1 game against Cle.is the bulk of his experience.Until that changes he's worth what I said.
This is your problem.
Back in 06 the forums starting posters were being announced,when they called your name,you came running out of the tunnel hands raised,looking like a nut and screaming price check Culpepper.Two words later you fell flat on your face,I believe it was Gonzo who picked you up.I just laughed and said,I think he fell in dog poo because shit has been coming out of his mouth ever since.6 months later it continued with Jackson,ending your topix career.Since 06 and falling out of the gate,Jimmy speaks and eats dog poo,everyday.
I'm entering the Hall of fame after the season,
Jimmy is still at the starting gate.

Since: Dec 06

Spring Hill, FL

#107 Aug 19, 2013
The after burner.
Although I like Chucky's personality,he inherited a Dungy team,his own drafts didn't produce.
He needed two veteran Viking Qb's 1 in Oak and 1 in Tampa to succeed.
With that said and Avants support we can now turn back to a veteran and a drafted rookie.Depending on the out come of Ponder in 2013.
Grossman another Avant bust,looked better than the injury prone Cousins.
"From the desk of a future topix Hall of Famer".
viking nation

Madera, CA

#108 Aug 19, 2013
What the Norseman writer said about Ponder was Surprised because I sure am He started by saying The Minnesota Vikings have drafted their quarterback of the future.

It wasn’t Cam Newton.

It wasn’t Jake Locker.

It wasn’t Blaine Gabbert.

It wasn’t Andy Dalton.

It wasn’t Ryan Mallett.

No, the Vikings surprised just about everyone by picking Florida State quarterback Christian Ponder. Surprised? Because I sure am.

Most people had Ponder pegged at the end of the first round or the beginning of the second round. Apparently, the Vikings had him graded much higher. Most of the experts said pretty much the same thing...
No. 12, to me, was way to high for Ponder to be selected, especially with Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick and Ryan Mallet still on the board.

He's not a bad prospect by any means, but he lacks ideal size, and wasn't fantastic in college; something I like to see in a Top 12 pick. It wasn't only Jon
Gruden
viking nation

Madera, CA

#109 Aug 19, 2013
Ponder said the Bills defense was pretty exotic. I would think by now Ponder should have seen most of what the Bills was doing. To still be getting confused does worry me. By now Ponder should have seen most everything on tape & on the field. Last season the Vikings seen a lot of unscouted looks Playing the Texans & Seattle & the 49ers, All have a exotic look on defense. It didn't help that the front line looked like high school kids blocking out there in that Bills game But still if you put enough time looking at tape & what you seen on the field last season you should have seen some of what the Bills was doing in that game. I don't know about all of you but this is reason for me to worry, I didn't like Ponder's confusion. You can bet teams the Vikes play this season will be trying to do the same. It's a copycat league.

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Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#110 Aug 20, 2013
viking nation wrote:
Chlidress YOUR guy Tebow is on his way out No team will want him even as a third string QB lol Childress thinks Tebow is good still. So Clueless. He has no football knowledge, I have seen a 6 year old with more knowledge then Chlidress lol..... VIKINGS HO!
You are the one with no football knowledge. Cut and pasting is not knowledge, it is an emphasis on how ignorant you are about the game. You also appear to be very socially ignorant. You are a liar and aren't wanted here. Why can't you get a clue and realize when you aren't wanted somewhere you leave.

A liar, football clueless and socially ignorant. What a pathetic loser. go away ezg.

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#113 Aug 20, 2013
viking nation wrote:
What the Norseman writer said about Ponder was Surprised because I sure am He started by saying The Minnesota Vikings have drafted their quarterback of the future.
It wasn’t Cam Newton.
It wasn’t Jake Locker.
It wasn’t Blaine Gabbert.
It wasn’t Andy Dalton.
It wasn’t Ryan Mallett.
No, the Vikings surprised just about everyone by picking Florida State quarterback Christian Ponder. Surprised? Because I sure am.
Most people had Ponder pegged at the end of the first round or the beginning of the second round. Apparently, the Vikings had him graded much higher. Most of the experts said pretty much the same thing...
No. 12, to me, was way to high for Ponder to be selected, especially with Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick and Ryan Mallet still on the board.
He's not a bad prospect by any means, but he lacks ideal size, and wasn't fantastic in college; something I like to see in a Top 12 pick. It wasn't only Jon
Gruden
Mel Kiper had Ponder as a 5 round project. I had him in the 4th. Ponder never was in Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick or Ryan Mallet's draft status.

Since: Dec 06

Spring Hill, FL

#114 Aug 20, 2013
Avant wrote:
<quoted text>Forget about draft nasty SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, What do you think of Cousins? Is he worth a number 1 pick? GET ON THE RECORD!
Nick Foles could be had.They have Barkley and Dixon backing up Vick.Maybe a #2 pick.Good college stats,size,wt.Has more experience than Cousins,did ok as a starter and in pre season to date.Plus the Eagle rookie Coach would be easier to deal with,than Shanahan.He's only 24 and would upgrade Cassell.

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Since: Mar 13

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#115 Aug 23, 2013
Throughout this entire discussion, there are two words that keep echoing in my mind.

TAVARIS JACKSON

Yes I remember somebody saying that he was going to be the greatest QB the Vikings ever had.

Where is TJ at today?
Harry

Park River, ND

#116 Aug 23, 2013
Magnum Man II wrote:
Throughout this entire discussion, there are two words that keep echoing in my mind.
TAVARIS JACKSON
Yes I remember somebody saying that he was going to be the greatest QB the Vikings ever had.
Where is TJ at today?
Excellent question! Where is TJoke?

Regarding Ponder:

He was a reach. On draft day I thought "Who the hell is this?"

Fox Sports Radio ranks Ponder ahead of Tebow and behind Gabbert.

Eeeeeesh.

But he's who we've got. Lots of teams have had "for now" QBs while they look for the leader. The guy who can take charge and get guys to play better when trailing or thru injury.
Can Ponder be the guy? Not so far.
Can Ponder be Dilfer or Brad Johnson and game-manage to a SuperBowl win? Not with this defense.

The take-charge QB is somewhere. Maybe on the roster but probably not.
So........we'll know soon.

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