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Hargrove penalty: NFL now discredits video

There are 2178 comments on the ESPN story from Jul 7, 2012, titled Hargrove penalty: NFL now discredits video. In it, ESPN reports that:

Green Bay Packers defensive end Anthony Hargrove has insisted on multiple occasion s that a key piece of evidence against him in the New Orleans Saints bounty issue is a case of mistaken identity.

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“DA BEARS FAN!”

Since: Dec 11

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#1388 Aug 5, 2012
PackerBacker-WichitaKs wrote:
<quoted text>Don't care about any of that. Championships, my friend. On a serious note. I think the Bears have a chance to be a very good team this year and should not be overlooked as a Super Bowl contender. Not to slam our Viking friends but I see the NFC North coming down to the Packers, Bears and Lions. The team with the least amount of injuries to their key players should win the division. The Vikings aren't ready to compete with the other teams in the division. Bears, Lions and Packers have all improved on paper, now they have to show it on the field. I consider the "Black and Blue" division one of the best in the NFL and look for it to come down to the last couple of games of the season to who wins the division. Experts can say what they want but this isn't going to be a one team race.
I think you are right, injuries might be the deciding factor in who takes the division. It will be done on the field and it will not mean shit what happen last year or what the experts think in august.

“Nice Ring eh?”

Since: Jan 11

Baton Rouge. La

#1389 Aug 5, 2012
eric wrote:
<quoted text>Welcome back to you and the NFL! Good luck to you and yours,My best to you and yours and im sure we will be chatting and chirping back and forth during the season,esp,during the week of the NO/GB game,before and after!
Eric..... glad to see ya. Looks like it will be an interesting season this year. I hope the best for you, your family, and your team.
WHO DAT
WE'RE BACK

“DA BEARS FAN!”

Since: Dec 11

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#1390 Aug 5, 2012
Who_Dat_Charlie wrote:
<quoted text>
LMFAO Is this the best spelling you can do? Dude you have a room full of people laughing at you and your post.
WHO DAT
WE'RE BACK
Your not all back, your missing your HC, GM, and some players due to the fact they had to cheat to win. I'm surprised they didn't take away the trophy and the rings. Let's see if you can win a SB without cheating this time. Can you do DAT ? Don't DINK so!

“DA BEARS FAN!”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#1391 Aug 5, 2012
eric wrote:
<quoted text>Consider this,We have more championships! You gained the huge advantage so far ago,Since the cap was put into place and a new football was invented,GB has won the head to head.When all things equal GB has won the head to head.Your main damage happened in the 80s and early 90s before the cap was put into place.
Yes eventually,you will start beating GB head to head as thats what the salary cap is for.You get higher or better picks and eventually you get better ect,This year? Maybe,eventually? def.a nd guess what a few years after that,GB will start beating Chi again.thats the way it works
So long ago? Lovie era, he added a nice junk of wins, he kicked GB"S ass with REX Grossman what 6 wins out of 8 times for a nice stretch.So you have excuses for losing to chicago, excuses are for losers. Oh, it's a new football?? Your excuses are hysterical! Well you also know that most fans, the NFL, the media, only count the Superbowl Era so you are on to something you can't count the Championships. If we can't use wins from before the cap or the footballs or before certain jock straps or what ever excuse you want to not count bears wins against the pack. You are cracking me up trying to change the history of the rivalry. Funny stuff, but you look like a sore loser. Eventually we will start beating the pack? Try Sept 13th! It's going to be fun.

“Nice Ring eh?”

Since: Jan 11

Baton Rouge. La

#1392 Aug 5, 2012
packluv1 wrote:
<quoted text> Your not all back, your missing your HC, GM, and some players due to the fact they had to cheat to win. I'm surprised they didn't take away the trophy and the rings. Let's see if you can win a SB without cheating this time. Can you do DAT ? Don't DINK so!
I hope all of that helps you sleep at night. Consider it a handi-cap. The Saints are so good the league decided to give the other 31 teams a chance.

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“DA BEARS FAN!”

Since: Dec 11

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#1393 Aug 5, 2012
Who_Dat_Charlie wrote:
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I hope all of that helps you sleep at night. Consider it a handi-cap. The Saints are so good the league decided to give the other 31 teams a chance.
WHO DAT
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I hope that makes you sleep at night. Wonder how your HC,GM and the players that got suspended for cheating are sleeping? hahaha
eric

Arpin, WI

#1394 Aug 5, 2012
packluv1 wrote:
<quoted text>So long ago? Lovie era, he added a nice junk of wins, he kicked GB"S ass with REX Grossman what 6 wins out of 8 times for a nice stretch.So you have excuses for losing to chicago, excuses are for losers. Oh, it's a new football?? Your excuses are hysterical! Well you also know that most fans, the NFL, the media, only count the Superbowl Era so you are on to something you can't count the Championships. If we can't use wins from before the cap or the footballs or before certain jock straps or what ever excuse you want to not count bears wins against the pack. You are cracking me up trying to change the history of the rivalry. Funny stuff, but you look like a sore loser. Eventually we will start beating the pack? Try Sept 13th! It's going to be fun.
Im not changing squat.You bitch and whine when i bring up the fact,Chicago CHOKED TWICE with the playoffs on the line and GB cost you a SB,YOu had the majority of your dominance in the 80s.Yes,you beat GB 6 of 8 when GB had 30Plus rookies and 2nd year guys rebuilding and they won a SB a few short years later.You claimed Rex is a better qb then Favre because Chi beat GB 6 of 8 with Lovie? Thats a laugher! I mentioned that to a Bears fan in a resturant w/a Walter Payton Jersey and he almost spit his drink laughing.Oh by the way,Lovie has a losing record vs GB doesnt he? The coach you hired with the 1st priority of beating GB and you have a losing record despite starting 6-2 beating a team that was rebuilding,well, guess they rebuilt well, 4 straight wins over CHI,TWICE with the season/playoffs on the line,Cost you a SB.Walked off Soldier field as NFC Champs,while all the 3,500 PSL paying Bears fans booed the Bears off the field,went home dejected,having lost their shot at the SB to their Rival.I MUCH rather be a Packer fan the past few years then a Bears fan.
eric

Arpin, WI

#1395 Aug 5, 2012
packluv1 wrote:
<quoted text>So long ago? Lovie era, he added a nice junk of wins, he kicked GB"S ass with REX Grossman what 6 wins out of 8 times for a nice stretch.So you have excuses for losing to chicago, excuses are for losers. Oh, it's a new football?? Your excuses are hysterical! Well you also know that most fans, the NFL, the media, only count the Superbowl Era so you are on to something you can't count the Championships. If we can't use wins from before the cap or the footballs or before certain jock straps or what ever excuse you want to not count bears wins against the pack. You are cracking me up trying to change the history of the rivalry. Funny stuff, but you look like a sore loser. Eventually we will start beating the pack? Try Sept 13th! It's going to be fun.
I didnt say you cant count championships,alls i said was you did a big part of your damage in the 80s,What have you done since the early mid 90s? How many SB have you won? Who has the upper hand head to head since the cap era started back in 93 or so ( going back 20 years or so),Have you won a SB in 20 years? I know the Packers have won 2.I sound like a sore loser? Far from it,i would much rather be a Packer fan,then a Bears fan on a Packer page trying to convince everyone including himself that Chi is so much better then last year and better the GB is.First actually beat the Packers since you haven't in the past 4 or 5 games,If you make the playoffs then at least you can chirp.Win the SB,No matter how bad GB season ended last year, It couldnt be nearly as bad as Chicago choking in 10 and losing their last 5 or 6 last year and missing the playoffs.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#1396 Aug 5, 2012
Every team has its bad years Yes even the Packers.>>The second "Dark Ages" (1972-1991)
For over a quarter century after Lombardi left the Packers, they had little success. Poor drafting of players was a key reason. To cite a few examples, in the first round of the 1972 draft, when future Hall of Fame running back Franco Harris was still available, the Packers instead chose mediocre quarterback Jerry Tagge. In 1981, when no fewer than three future Hall of Fame defenders were still available -- Ronnie Lott, Mike Singletary, and Howie Long, the Packers chose another mediocre quarterback, Rich Campbell. Finally, in 1989, when such future legends as Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders, and Derrick Thomas were available, the Packers chose offensive lineman Tony Mandarich. Though rated highly by nearly every professional scout at the time, Mandarich's performance failed to meet expectations.

Although the Packers would not have winning success until 1992, there were moments when the Packers at times resembled the old Packer days of the 1960s. In 1972, led by workhorse running backs John Brockington and new Packer MacArthur Lane, and a sturdy defense that featured rookie Willie Buchanon, the Packers clinched the NFC Central Division Title with a 10–4 record. That team would lose to the Washington Redskins 16-3. In 1975 under new head coach Bart Starr the Packers won only 4 games, but one of those wins came at home, as the Packers beat the eventual 1975 NFC Champion Dallas Cowboys 19–17 on October 19.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#1397 Aug 5, 2012
1976 was another losing campaign, with the Packers only achieving a 5-9 record, the lowest in their division. The team dropped back to a 4-10 season in 1977. The frequent changes of quarterbacks during this period was indicative of Green Bay's troubles. When the NFL expanded the regular season to 16 games the following year, the team won six of its first seven matches, but largely due to an easy schedule. After the Packers began facing tougher opponents, the wins dried up and the final record for 1978 was 8-7-1.

The Packers had another 1,000 yard rusher in Terdell Middleton: he rushed for 1,116 yards. In the early 1980s, the Packers had a star-studded aerial attack led by quarterback Lynn Dickey and wide receivers James Lofton and John Jefferson.

While the 1978 season had raised the morale of Packers fans, it did not last, for 1979 saw the team finish with a 5-11 record, and a 5-10-1 showing during the injury-plagued 1980 season. In 1981, the Packers came close to the playoffs, but lost the final game of the season, a road match against the New York Jets, and ending up with an 8-8 record.

After the 1982 season was reduced to nine games by a players' strike, the NFL held a special playoff tournament with the eight best teams in each conference. The 5-3-1 Packers qualified for this, routing the Cardinals 41-16, but in the next round lost to the Cowboys 36-27. Another 8-8 season the following year led to the dismissal of Bart Starr as head coach. Forrest Gregg succeeded him, but after two more 8-8 seasons, he decided to cut several aging players and start over with fresh rookies. The rejuvenated Packers produced a 4-12 record in 1986, as was typical of a rebuilding period.

Another strike affected the NFL in 1987, resulting in a 15-game season. During the strike, the league used substitute players. The Packers fill-ins won one game and lost two before the regulars returned, but in the end the struggling team managed only a 5-9-1 record. Afterwards, Forrest Gregg resigned and was replaced by Lindy Infante. Still did the team struggle, going 4-12 in 1988.

With such a weak record, the Packers gained the privilege of first-round draft picks during the 1989 off-season. They selected Michigan State offensive tackle Tony Mandarich, who was getting considerable publicity due to his huge 325-pound frame. Mandarich (who later admitted to using steroids in college) proved a poor choice in the end, and after three seasons of mediocre performance was cut. The 1989 campaign was the best in 17 years, with the Packers compiling a 10-6 record (including a victory over the eventual Super Bowl Champion San Francisco 49ers), but still missing the playoffs. There followed another two losing seasons, with 6-10 and 4-12 records. A general overhaul took place during the 1992 off-season, with Mike Holmgren replacing Lindy Infante. Most importantly however, the Packers acquired second-year quarterback "Brett Favre" from the Atlanta Falcons.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#1398 Aug 5, 2012
Yes the hated Brett Favre turned the Packers back into a winning team after quarter century
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#1399 Aug 6, 2012
ezg: Thanks for cutting and pasting Packer history. Since you write at a second grade level, it is always nice when you cut and paste. Nobody was tortured by YOUR writing! I'm sure every Packer fan already knew the history. However, it never hurts to have the Viking and Bear fans learn about the NFL's greatest franchise. You should read more Packer history. If you fully understood Packer greatness, I bet you wouldn't be so clueless.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#1400 Aug 6, 2012
ezg357 wrote:
Yes the hated Brett Favre turned the Packers back into a winning team after quarter century
Why did you have to add this poor attempt at a sentence? The cut and paste job you did was fine by itself. Just stick to cut and paste. The stuff you try to write doesn't do anything but remind people that you are an ignorant, illiterate baboon!
ezg357

Madera, CA

#1401 Aug 6, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
ezg: Thanks for cutting and pasting Packer history. Since you write at a second grade level, it is always nice when you cut and paste. Nobody was tortured by YOUR writing! I'm sure every Packer fan already knew the history. However, it never hurts to have the Viking and Bear fans learn about the NFL's greatest franchise. You should read more Packer history. If you fully understood Packer greatness, I bet you wouldn't be so clueless.
Well if you liked that you will love this GBPfan lol.>>Greg Jennings suffers concussion in Packers scrimmage.McCarthy said Jennings and offensive tackle Marshall Newhouse, who also suffered a concussion in the scrimmage, would be evaluated later in the week.

"I wouldn't rule Marshall or Greg out this week," McCarthy said, according to the Green Bay Press-Gazette. "I know they're going through the protocol. I'll probably know more Tuesday."

The Packers play their first preseason game Thursday against the San Diego Chargers.

Jennings missed time earlier in Packers training camp with an elbow injury. The two-time Pro Bowl selection hauled in a 33-yard touchdown pass from quarterback Aaron Rodgers earlier Friday night.

Jennings had 67 catches for 949 yards and nine touchdowns last season in 13 starts
ezg357

Madera, CA

#1402 Aug 6, 2012
I never like seeing a player get a concussion. What I do like is it makes the team weaker. Aaron's favorite target sitting out will hurt the team. The thing is how bad was it & will the next hit have him sitting out most of the season. you never know with a concussion. We all know what happen when Jennings didnt play in that KC game last season. Just one more thing to worry about.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#1403 Aug 6, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did you have to add this poor attempt at a sentence? The cut and paste job you did was fine by itself. Just stick to cut and paste. The stuff you try to write doesn't do anything but remind people that you are an ignorant, illiterate baboon!
We all cut & paste Fat boy. I don't pretend that I went to collage like you GBPfan tell how does a guy that claims to have multiple college degrees post this.>> I don't what is funnier" hmmmmm lol Your a fake. & this wasnt the first time you been caught lying. The collage you went to had to have been a clown collage. AS packluv1 said You shouldn't make fun of people when you make errors yourself!!! idiot.
GBPmies

Jyväskylä, Finland

#1405 Aug 6, 2012
eric wrote:
<quoted text>I didnt say you cant count championships,alls i said was you did a big part of your damage in the 80s,What have you done since the early mid 90s? How many SB have you won? Who has the upper hand head to head since the cap era started back in 93 or so ( going back 20 years or so),Have you won a SB in 20 years? I know the Packers have won 2.I sound like a sore loser? Far from it,i would much rather be a Packer fan,then a Bears fan on a Packer page trying to convince everyone including himself that Chi is so much better then last year and better the GB is.First actually beat the Packers since you haven't in the past 4 or 5 games,If you make the playoffs then at least you can chirp.Win the SB,No matter how bad GB season ended last year, It couldnt be nearly as bad as Chicago choking in 10 and losing their last 5 or 6 last year and missing the playoffs.
Good point about the Beras accomplishments (or lack thier of) since early to mid 90s. That is when the salary cap came into play and the large market teams could no longer buy Super Bowls. The Bears have been less than mediocre since the salary cap was introduced, even worse than the Vikings. They have not even won half of their games and no Super Bowls either. I gave him the facts before, he cried.
GBPmies

Jyväskylä, Finland

#1406 Aug 6, 2012
WARNING!!!
ezg is going to be 'extra bitchy to the max' this week since his ‘man crush’ Greg Childs got hurt and cut. He really loved that guy and thought he was the best WR in the draft, he had huge boner for that dude!
eric

Arpin, WI

#1407 Aug 6, 2012
Yea,I felt bad for the guy.Tearing tendons in both knees,thats rough and sucks.
ezg,well just one more thing to worry about!
PackerBacker-Wic hitaKs

Wichita, KS

#1408 Aug 6, 2012
ezg357 wrote:
Yes the hated Brett Favre turned the Packers back into a winning team after quarter century
I don't recall any of us Packer fans on here ever saying we "hated" Brett Favre. I have very much respect for Favre and what he helped the team accomplish during his career in Green Bay. Is this another example of you making s*** up? I believe it is.

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