Spielman credits Ponder as much as Peterson

There are 20 comments on the May 8, 2013, Fox Sports story titled Spielman credits Ponder as much as Peterson. In it, Fox Sports reports that:

Adrian Peterson nearly set the NFL's all-time single-season rushing mark last year, but general manager Rick Spielman said Christian Ponder should receive just as much credit as Peterson for the Vikings' playoff berth.

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Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#61 May 12, 2013
Furthermore,
There is evidence Jimmy has no idea if Ponder will succeed or not.
1)Exhibit A:Flip flopping galore on what he thinks of the Qb.
2)Exhibit B:In case Ponder turns out to be descent,Jimmy throws in the injury card.Covering himself in two different directions.
And the Guru stuff??????????Recently I mentioned the great class of Qb's coming out in 2014.Jimmy listed 1,2,3 in order EXACTLY how Walter's Football projects the Qb's to be drafted.
Furthermore,
I find evidence Jimmy is NO guru after all.
He Has littered (trashed)the archives with outrageous predictions for his QB T.Jackson.That would be the Jimmy's knowledge of Qb's.
0.nadda,zilch.
viking nation

Madera, CA

#62 May 12, 2013
I would say there is more evidence that Ponder won't succeed then there is that he will. Ponder's passing yards per-game looks a lot like Tim Tebow's numbers. That's the evidence he won't succeed, I have yet to see any evidence that he will secceed, If you have let me know & the wannabe's ^^^ should admit that. I am all for backing Ponder & saying how he had a leading receiver in Harvin last year but his overall stats speak for their self. face it there Tm Tebow like & we are only hoping this year will be better. I do think with adding Jennings & Patterson we will see a better season out of Ponder.

“MN Viking fan in Kansas”

Since: Apr 13

Huron, South Dakota

#63 May 13, 2013
Evidence? Let's see, in 1996, Farve won the SB with an average pass completion of 7.2. Farve's lifetime average per pass completion was 7.1. Ponder's lifetime average per pass completion is 6.2. So anybody who throws Ponder under the bus for less than 1 yd per pass completion average than a HOF QB isn't giving Ponder his fair chance.
Remember Do what you do do well"? We run the ball well, but that doesn't mean Ponder can't pass, only that he isn't asked to pass as much, except in obvious situations against a packed secondary.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#64 May 13, 2013
I found evidence,Denver had receivers.I found no evidence Ponder had the same.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#65 May 13, 2013
Furthermore,
I found additional evidence.
The TE was the 2nd leading receiver on the Vikings roster.Wonder why?
Harvin was the leading receiver,he missed the 2nd half to boot.
I now call into question what the nay sayers are basing their argument on?
I find no evidence to question Ponder or the guy who drafted him.
In fact this up coming season may not even determine it.Jennings always hurt and a #1 development stage receiver drafted in the 1st.Simpson a ? and Wright still getting it down.An offensive line that accounted for the 4th highest Qb hurries.Mainly because the OG's suck big toes just like Ryan.
The jury remains out.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#66 May 13, 2013
The evidence sniff test says so.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#67 May 13, 2013
More evidence?????
Sure,
as we all know,many people have gotten rich by betting against jimmy's predictions.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#68 May 13, 2013
Should we wait or send Jimmy's fate to the jury?
A) jury is still out
or
B) Jimmy is guilty as charged on 1st degree fraud guru charge?
And
a 2nd charge of tampering,for recruiting ezg?
viking nation

Madera, CA

#69 May 13, 2013
Come on Look at Favre's Yards Per-game to Ponder's they totally out numbers Ponder's. Ponder thew for less then 200 yards nine times last year & less then 135 yards six times. How can you you compare the two without laughing. This is why I say a QBs Passing average doesn't matter as much as total yards. I mean Ponder's Passing average didn't help his INTs did it. & the vikes are 23rd in passing yards.
viking nation

Madera, CA

#70 May 13, 2013
I was one of the first to stand up for Ponder & say he had the leading receiver in Harvin last year up to the time he was hurt. but you got to admit Ponder's yards per game is sorry. I am not talking about Passing avg. I am talking about total yards at the end of a game, look at them & then look at Tim Tebow's that everyone knocks & see how much the two look alike. Everyone knows this is pretty much Ponder's do or die year Right wee seen it all over the web but if you read the wannabe post he acts like he is the first to say it in print. you seen me say it here first. bragging rights on something that had already been written about. to much lol

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#71 May 14, 2013
It is evident,that at least 1 doesn't see evidence.
Tebow had 2 Pro bowl receiver's and better from 3 on down.Ponder had 1 and the OC dictated things.
ezg is a Parrot,can't think for himself and mimics what he hears.
My claim is to wait and see,because I see no evidence to the contrary.I spelled the evidence out.The naysayer has offered 0 evidence.YPg would be a reflection of receiver's.We had 1 receiver for 8 games and a 1st year starter.That spells 0 evidence for ezg.
Like I said,if he fails,there's always a next up.
ezg has no memory or comprehension skills.He is a failure in this forum on everything.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#72 May 14, 2013
More evidence,
from The evidence department.
Ponder had a 6.08 yds per attempt,near the bottom.
But
if you go by completion attempts only,he has about 10 yds per completion.Right in Manning,Rodgers and all top Qb's territory.
I remain convinced,
with time and a supporting cast,I think ponder will be fine,if not?Then next up.
Today I rest my case,there has been 0 evidence to the contrary.
To repeat,
every pass Ponder completes,goes for a 10 yd average,right up there with the best.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#73 May 14, 2013
You know, if you slant all these stats, just so....Ponder could be an All-Pro....

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#74 May 14, 2013
Closing argument.
Ponder completed 300 of 483,the 183 incompletions will be the area of improvement.For that to happen,he'll mostly need improved wr talent.That will get his yds and avg after the catch up to where needed.As a 1 year starter,one could expect his abilities to grow,that being reading defenses progression reads,knowing when to throw it away,etc.If the receivers are what we hope,and the OC delivers,then Ponder should be what the team expected.If not,and it's on Ponder,there are some good Qb's in the next draft.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#75 May 14, 2013
NEXT CASE.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#76 May 14, 2013
So jimmy will need to start a new header,something like
Why aren't the Vikings interested in a vertical passing game?
The master planners,HC,OC,GM drafted Ponder,knowing he is not a deep passer.But you have to go deep to keep it honest,at least occasionally.The OC said 2 years ago,he wanted a 2 TE set with plenty of running,I assume that is still the plan.
Ponder was drafted to execute that system.
Spielman,has the plan,I have the depth perception.Jimmy and ezg
HAHAHAHA
Yep,
I'll wait and see.

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Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#77 May 14, 2013
Childress wrote:
So jimmy will need to start a new header,something like
Why aren't the Vikings interested in a vertical passing game?
The master planners,HC,OC,GM drafted Ponder,knowing he is not a deep passer.But you have to go deep to keep it honest,at least occasionally.The OC said 2 years ago,he wanted a 2 TE set with plenty of running,I assume that is still the plan.
Ponder was drafted to execute that system.
Spielman,has the plan,I have the depth perception.Jimmy and ezg
HAHAHAHA
Yep,
I'll wait and see.
I'm rooting for you to be right this time. If Ponder give us 4000 yards 45 TD 6 INT 122 passer rating Rodgers MVP numbers There's no telling how far we go. after all Spielman and some on Topix said he gets equal credit so I expect MVP numbers this year to carry us to the playoffs

From this day on I hold Ponder to a Rodgers, Manning MVP play level.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#78 May 14, 2013
More evidence:
As we all know ezg/Viking Nation has been a complete disaster in the Viking forum.In addition to bashing the Viking starting QB.,he is on record for wanting Henderson to be the MLB.Are you friggng kidding me?
HAHAHAHA
We needed to draft a MLB and when they made it an open competition it was clear.
Urlacher is poised to sign a two year deal,it's either Minn.or Den.
We need him, and Henderson can be my top backup.He should lose his outside job as well.

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Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#79 May 14, 2013
Childress wrote:
More evidence:
As we all know ezg/Viking Nation has been a complete disaster in the Viking forum.In addition to bashing the Viking starting QB.,he is on record for wanting Henderson to be the MLB.Are you friggng kidding me?
HAHAHAHA
We needed to draft a MLB and when they made it an open competition it was clear.
Urlacher is poised to sign a two year deal,it's either Minn.or Den.
We need him, and Henderson can be my top backup.He should lose his outside job as well.
Plus I want to say I told you so about Geno Smith, Jets love him looks like I did it again. It doesn't hurt that Geno had Tim out of a job Tebow, FIRED!

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#80 May 14, 2013
By Popular demand,
more evidence.
The Vikings had Peterson starting the year on a carry count,after all he was coming back from a serious injury.
Ponder carried the team,and in so doing,was the last NFL starter to throw a pick.

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