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Ranking The NFC North: First Place, The Green Bay Packers

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The NFC North has been one of the most competitive division in the NFL for the last three seasons with each team registering at least one 10 win season over that time.

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Packer hacker

Lake In The Hills, IL

#2008 Nov 10, 2013
eric wrote:
WHy does Tramon WIlliams have a fricking job! Never mind take a pay cut,CUT HIS ASS!
2 bomb TD as T.W miss played both of them and the 3 TD ( bomb)was a horribly throw ball that Cooper made a nice adjustment on,a nd MD Jennings didnt.
Yes,Scott Tolzien made 2 very bad INT ,costing GB a shot at a short FG and setting Philly up for another ( which they missed anyway).I feel more confident with Tolzien then Wallace.
Sad to lose both EDS and Barclay as Lang at Center ( prob shouldnt have played today) the rookie Lane Taylor at RG ( P.S. player for the most part but will gain experience) and Marshall Newhouse at RT isnt real impressive so far,but, losing EDS and Barclay didnt help, giving up 3 long TD ( thanks to TW on 2 of them).Well, then Green Bay will HAVE to beat NY next week and then beat Minn and a 7-4 going into Det on Thanksgiving and thanks to Jay Cutler and his stellar record vs teams with a winning record,at least GB caught a break on that one,stay with Det,beat them on Thanksgiving ( if Rodgers is back),but, thats a lot to ask right now as the defense has played shitty 2 weeks straight now.
A Viking fan bragging on Green Bay after disappearing for weeks as the big mouth shot his shit about Minn.winning teh division and is pulling off a stellar 2-7 record is a joke and its not over by a long shot,but, GB has to beat NYG on the road ( when NY has played very well vs GB the last few years) and a win over Minn gets them that 2-1 record w/o Rodgers going into Thanksgiving. Tolzien came in cold vs Philly ( who is 5-1 on the road!! Great for them,imagine if they could win at Home?) and I think ( besides 2 bad INT's which im sure he will learn from)he did a pretty good job for the most part and Now HE has a week to plan for NY who is 2-5 but has won a few straight now and is starting to play better football ( now that it is the 2nd half of the season once again) but NY is a must win if they want a shot at the division title and or a playoff spot.
funny how you take a shot at cutler. Your defense sucks and if you think you got a shot at the division title... I got some fake stock to sell you. I think you need to fire capers.
GBPmies

Espoo, Finland

#2009 Nov 10, 2013
Packer hacker wrote:
<quoted text> funny how you take a shot at cutler. Your defense sucks and if you think you got a shot at the division title... I got some fake stock to sell you. I think you need to fire capers.
I didn’t get to see every play of the Bears game so I won’t lay into Cutler yet. I did see a good play and bad plays and his numbers were not so great. He looked like he was in pain on a few plays that I saw. Did that effect his performance you think? McCown looked good at the end of the game, I wonder how things would have turned out if a healthy McCown played the whole game instead of an injured Cutler? Any thoughts and anything important I should watch for when I watch the full game?
eric

Verona, WI

#2010 Nov 10, 2013
Our Defense did suck the past few weeks and its a wonder Williams still has a job and id fire Capers after this season if this shit keeps up.
Im not being Obnoxious,im serious,Cutler sucks and once again,he cant beat a team with a winning record,and its not like im picking on you just to piss you off,ive been saying it for a few seasons and thats Cutlers knock..I know you will never agree with me and thats fine but Chicago said Cutler has to prove himself for a contract and they mentioned on Monday night football ( vs GB last week) if you remember they are still not sure what to do with Cutler,so not even Chicago/s management is sure about Cutler,so its not just me.You beat GB w/o Rodgers with a backup and lose to Det ( whos defense actually ranks Low from what the pregame guys said) with Cutler..Chicago's Defense isnt a whole lot better, and the record is now the same,only difference is,GB will get the best qb in teh game back soon,you got your starter .Did i read the ticker tape on the bottom of the screen correct,Cutler got injured again?
eric

Verona, WI

#2011 Nov 10, 2013
Yea i do agree though ,if GB has to play 3 Olinemen in different positions,it will be a bit tougher to win the division but its still in play and GB can still win the division.Chicago defense is not much better then GB or Det at this point.GB has 1 week to prepare Tolzien for NY and he did a nice job considering the circumstance today and NY is becoming almost a must win next Sunday Night
GBPmies

Espoo, Finland

#2012 Nov 10, 2013
Now these are NOT my words or eric's words... but from ESPN

"Quarterback Josh McCown came in and provided a spark late, nearly rallying the Bears. His entrance at the 2:17 mark was long overdue, as Jay Cutler seemed to be hurting the team by trying to play through injury."

Now why would it be "funny" for eric to take a "shot" at Cutler if even the experts are taking "shots" at him? Don't get mad at eric if cutler played bad after becoming injured again.
Packer hacker

Lake In The Hills, IL

#2013 Nov 10, 2013
eric wrote:
Our Defense did suck the past few weeks and its a wonder Williams still has a job and id fire Capers after this season if this shit keeps up.
Im not being Obnoxious,im serious,Cutler sucks and once again,he cant beat a team with a winning record,and its not like im picking on you just to piss you off,ive been saying it for a few seasons and thats Cutlers knock..I know you will never agree with me and thats fine but Chicago said Cutler has to prove himself for a contract and they mentioned on Monday night football ( vs GB last week) if you remember they are still not sure what to do with Cutler,so not even Chicago/s management is sure about Cutler,so its not just me.You beat GB w/o Rodgers with a backup and lose to Det ( whos defense actually ranks Low from what the pregame guys said) with Cutler..Chicago's Defense isnt a whole lot better, and the record is now the same,only difference is,GB will get the best qb in teh game back soon,you got your starter .Did i read the ticker tape on the bottom of the screen correct,Cutler got injured again?
packers are in trouble and you can't blame it on Rodgers being gone, you were in first place for about a week 1/2 week this season. Packers are third place, that's where they have been most of the season.
Packer hacker

Lake In The Hills, IL

#2014 Nov 10, 2013
GBPmies wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn’t get to see every play of the Bears game so I won’t lay into Cutler yet. I did see a good play and bad plays and his numbers were not so great. He looked like he was in pain on a few plays that I saw. Did that effect his performance you think? McCown looked good at the end of the game, I wonder how things would have turned out if a healthy McCown played the whole game instead of an injured Cutler? Any thoughts and anything important I should watch for when I watch the full game?
there would be no reason to lay into cutler he was making plays not to many QBs in this league could make, with a hurt ankle. Played a very good game while being very limited with an ankle injury, couldn't run or scramble but kept moving the ball. Bears should have sat cutler sooner but he kept moving the chains.Bears d was playing good too.Hope we see them in the playoffs.
eric

Verona, WI

#2015 Nov 10, 2013
No but With Rodgers im sure they beat Chicago and very well could have beaten Philly.You think Rodgers throws the INT down there like ST did? I seriously doubt it..But, Rodgers isnt in ,so the whole conversation is moot..Where teams end up in the end is what counts and all 3 teams have a chance to win it.
I will grant you this,if GB is below 500 when Rodgers comes back,it will be a very tough run to get there.IF GB (Rodgers comes back after Thanksgiving) is 7-5 or so,with 4 left,They have a pretty good shot at winning out.At Dallas,ATL,PITTS and At Chicago.
It is a big if,but,at 5-4 along with Chi. and 1 behind 6-3 Det its up for grabs.Any news on Cutlers ankle? Did he break it,or, did he twist or sprain it enough he just couldnt go? It is a darn good thing for both of us that the other wasnt real healthy.Det has a very good QB, the best WR in the game and a pretty good RB and Running game but their defense has ranked near the bottom and they ( det) is inconsistent as well.I feel with Tolzien,GB can put up some points,he came off the bench ( w/o even taking a practice snap and barely any knowledge of the play book and played pretty well considering,UNF, the defense gave up 3 big TD ( Tramon Williams gave up 2 and cost GB an INT)and why this guy has a roster spot is beyond me.Point is,with a week to get ready,i can see Tolzien playing a solid game.GB played with 3 Olineman out of position during pretty much the whole 4th quarter and much of the 3rd ( Lang at Center,as EDS left injured,a rookie from the PS at RG as Lang moved over after EDS got injured and M.N. at LT ( after Barclay left injured as well) and Tolzien played pretty well considering.I just hope Casey Hayward is healthy and ready to go,so T.W. can watch his snaps be cut back
Pequot 40

Chicago, IL

#2016 Nov 10, 2013
GBPmies wrote:
That was just a disappointing game to watch. Wallace goes out after the first drive. 3rd sting QB played OK but TO hurt, more injuries, defense not getting it done with more missed tackles (except the fumble TD returned blow dead and Packers still don’r score), Foles throwing two horid looking bombs for lucky TDs, the refs rely bothered me today (normally I understand some bad calls as part of the game but today was just…shit).
Btw - Tramon Williams can take a pay cut next year or go play for the vikes, he is not earning his money.
It is tough losing 2 straight both @GB. Both games need to be won but without a QB who has taken the reps each week it is tough. Not looking good for the Packers.
So who should start next week? I say let Tolzien start. I don’t like Wallace much and Tolzien at least made plays and has a strong arm. Either way things are looking bleak.
I'll give you much credit for not only your undying support of the Packers, but also for showing up with some painful, yet realistic observations.
The barrage of comments by not only you, but also GBPfan about the sad state of the Vikings organization has not gone unnoticed. Can I rise above the rukus and offer condolences to a fellow NFL fan who could very well be watching the undoing of their team at a moments notice?
Not a chance
The 'weak' stretch of the Packer schedule is half over with the 'home' team going 0-2.
The Vikings may even be favored at Lambeau, wouldn't that be a hoot?
Maybe Aaron has more to do with Packer Success than TT and MM combined.
Pequot 40

Chicago, IL

#2017 Nov 10, 2013
eric wrote:
A Viking fan bragging on Green Bay after disappearing for weeks as the big mouth shot his shit about Minn.winning teh division and is pulling off a stellar 2-7 record is a joke and its not over by a long shot.
Rosy Palm dialect can always be attributed to one poster who never sees anything but blue skies on the horizon.
At this time of this season, we see a Rodgers less team unable to make up for the loss by playing bad football at home. Chicago and Detroit are much better than the Packers right now. Minnesota and Green Bay is a toss up.
Reality bites
Packer hacker

Lake In The Hills, IL

#2018 Nov 10, 2013
GBPmies wrote:
Now these are NOT my words or eric's words... but from ESPN
"Quarterback Josh McCown came in and provided a spark late, nearly rallying the Bears. His entrance at the 2:17 mark was long overdue, as Jay Cutler seemed to be hurting the team by trying to play through injury."
Now why would it be "funny" for eric to take a "shot" at Cutler if even the experts are taking "shots" at him? Don't get mad at eric if cutler played bad after becoming injured again.
saying a guy sucks means the guy sucks as a player, cutler was injured and it was obvious as the game went on it was to effecting his play. Bears keep him in to Long, but that's because it was a close game and cutler was still moving the ball. I'm sure Eric is just frustrated and upset because the Bears injured Rodgers, and there is a very good chance he's done for the season thanks to the Bears. Bears are in 2nd place , packers are in 3rd. Packers have been there 90% of the season. packers are also on a losing streak....who sucks?
Packer hacker

Lake In The Hills, IL

#2019 Nov 10, 2013
Pequot 40 wrote:
<quoted text>
Rosy Palm dialect can always be attributed to one poster who never sees anything but blue skies on the horizon.
At this time of this season, we see a Rodgers less team unable to make up for the loss by playing bad football at home. Chicago and Detroit are much better than the Packers right now. Minnesota and Green Bay is a toss up.
Reality bites
We'll put!
Packer hacker

Lake In The Hills, IL

#2020 Nov 10, 2013
eric wrote:
No but With Rodgers im sure they beat Chicago and very well could have beaten Philly.You think Rodgers throws the INT down there like ST did? I seriously doubt it..But, Rodgers isnt in ,so the whole conversation is moot..Where teams end up in the end is what counts and all 3 teams have a chance to win it.
I will grant you this,if GB is below 500 when Rodgers comes back,it will be a very tough run to get there.IF GB (Rodgers comes back after Thanksgiving) is 7-5 or so,with 4 left,They have a pretty good shot at winning out.At Dallas,ATL,PITTS and At Chicago.
It is a big if,but,at 5-4 along with Chi. and 1 behind 6-3 Det its up for grabs.Any news on Cutlers ankle? Did he break it,or, did he twist or sprain it enough he just couldnt go? It is a darn good thing for both of us that the other wasnt real healthy.Det has a very good QB, the best WR in the game and a pretty good RB and Running game but their defense has ranked near the bottom and they ( det) is inconsistent as well.I feel with Tolzien,GB can put up some points,he came off the bench ( w/o even taking a practice snap and barely any knowledge of the play book and played pretty well considering,UNF, the defense gave up 3 big TD ( Tramon Williams gave up 2 and cost GB an INT)and why this guy has a roster spot is beyond me.Point is,with a week to get ready,i can see Tolzien playing a solid game.GB played with 3 Olineman out of position during pretty much the whole 4th quarter and much of the 3rd ( Lang at Center,as EDS left injured,a rookie from the PS at RG as Lang moved over after EDS got injured and M.N. at LT ( after Barclay left injured as well) and Tolzien played pretty well considering.I just hope Casey Hayward is healthy and ready to go,so T.W. can watch his snaps be cut back
lol, all the what ifs!!!!! Lol
Packer hacker

Lake In The Hills, IL

#2021 Nov 10, 2013
Pequot 40 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll give you much credit for not only your undying support of the Packers, but also for showing up with some painful, yet realistic observations.
The barrage of comments by not only you, but also GBPfan about the sad state of the Vikings organization has not gone unnoticed. Can I rise above the rukus and offer condolences to a fellow NFL fan who could very well be watching the undoing of their team at a moments notice?
Not a chance
The 'weak' stretch of the Packer schedule is half over with the 'home' team going 0-2.
The Vikings may even be favored at Lambeau, wouldn't that be a hoot?
Maybe Aaron has more to do with Packer Success than TT and MM combined.
nice!
viking nation

Madera, CA

#2022 Nov 10, 2013
sliding :)
eric

Verona, WI

#2023 Nov 11, 2013
Packer hacker wrote:
<quoted text> lol, all the what ifs!!!!! Lol
Lots of Ifs but a 3 team log jam,its possible for all.1 game separates 3 teams,no one is out
eric

Verona, WI

#2024 Nov 11, 2013
Packer hacker wrote:
<quoted text> saying a guy sucks means the guy sucks as a player, cutler was injured and it was obvious as the game went on it was to effecting his play. Bears keep him in to Long, but that's because it was a close game and cutler was still moving the ball. I'm sure Eric is just frustrated and upset because the Bears injured Rodgers, and there is a very good chance he's done for the season thanks to the Bears. Bears are in 2nd place , packers are in 3rd. Packers have been there 90% of the season. packers are also on a losing streak....who sucks?
Im not upset the Bears injured Rodgers at all,It was a clean hit,no horrible intent,unf. Rodgers landed in the exact wrong way,
Cutler, who truely knows if hes completely healthy ( but,if hes not completely healthy and they pulled McGown who was playing very good ball,then the coaches made a very stupid move there,Mc.was playing more then good enough to carry the team until Cutler was completely healthy and its really unfair to Cutler and the fans).You of all people know my opinion of Cutler and it has nothing to do with GB struggling right now ect,comeon now,your better then that!Actually, you of all people KNOW the facts of Cutler and his record against teams with winning records and yesterday was more proof,McGown came in relief,put up a score late and they almost tied it up and into OT.Yes,Cutler is coming back from injury,a bit rusty maybe,not completely healthy for sure ( prob wont be until an off season to really rest it)but like we chatted about,go with the hot hand and Mc was just that.
Packer hacker

Lake In The Hills, IL

#2025 Nov 11, 2013
eric wrote:
<quoted text>Lots of Ifs but a 3 team log jam,its possible for all.1 game separates 3 teams,no one is out
wake up, packers are out of it, your defense sucks. Packers have been in third place 95% of the season . Doesn't matter if mathews plays or not, it sucks either way just like clay. Will they fire capers this week or let him finish out the season? Maybe mathews can retstructure his overplayed hyped up contract and you guys can have some money to spend on some players.
eric

Verona, WI

#2026 Nov 11, 2013
Clay shouldnt be playing with a club.rest it.
Finding cap space is getting easier to find.T.Williams and his huge cap number should be gone! Finley ( i believe) will not be resigned ( 9.5M) and John Kuhn and his nearly 3M is prob gone,so thats close to 20M or so So, on that side its not that bad ( as FA like Raji wont get raises that much higher,,as hes already pushing 6-7M and wont get that much more and eat that much more cap space),,,The defense played well in the 1st half of the season,the past few games have been very bad,but they should fire Capers.( many stated hes one of the best in the game) but hes been here long enough...FIRE CAPERS.!!!!!
Offer Lovie Smith a HC salary and give him 100% of the defensive reins. IF not L.S.,im sure there are some very good asst. from good defensive teams who deserve a promotion but wont get it where they are at
Packers defense is alot like Chicago's now,injuries are taking its toll and losing a few more yesterday certainly wont help. Calling Mathews overated or over hyped is certainly wrong but i do agree with Clay and Rodgers contracts rising 11M for next year,that wont help but again,with Finley,Kuhn and the fact they can get rid of Jarrett Bush and Tramon Williams,that frees up quite a bit of cash.
GBPmies

Finland

#2027 Nov 11, 2013
It is all just wait and see with the Packers as of now. Hard to get excited about anything really.
The defense has been junk as of late, can’t defend easy passes that are normally intercepted, mental break downs, and VERY poor tackling. They were tackling better early in the season but now they look like a bunch of pussies.

The offense was created around Rodgers, without Rodgers the offense is a mystery. Losing the supposed to be starting QB on the first drive in back to back weeks makes it tough do much of anything. The backup has had no reps in the week and the game plan is shot. Not mention all the other injuries but losing 2 Olineman (so 3 playing there non starter spot) it going to help much either.

The only bright is playing the NYG who have struggled and the vikings who have sucked. It is a pity to lose 2 games @GB that in normal circumstances they should have won. But that is how it goes; injuries happen if you cannot overcome them you watch the playoffs. As of now I doubt the NFC North will get a wild card spot so it is NFC North Champs or no playoffs.

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