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“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#1 Sep 25, 2012
Was not thrilled with Frazier and company last year. However am starting to see a glimmer of hope. First is Frazier. He's so cold an unemotional he doesn't seem to inspire the team on the sideline. Don't know how he is at practice or in the locker room but on the sideline he is a zombie. At least he was until the Niner game. After the BS replay/timeout fiasco he was on the field, in the Refs grill and fairly animated. I've coached baseball and softball for 16 years and learned that players like it when the coach sticks up for them . With replacements held in low regard Frazier's actions were noticed by the players.

Next is Williams. Too early to tel how they'll hold up but the secondary is light years ahead of last year. The rotation of the front 4 is also telling as there hasn't been the drop off that was noticed last year late in games.

Musgrave is the one who is starting to surprised me the most. He knows the teams limitations vertically and is making a great underneath game plan. At first I thought it was too predictable and easily defended. Predictable yes, defendable no. The execution of the O with Ponder's accuracy makes it work. Plus there are enough variations (hello no huddle) that keep the D guessing. Finally he has realized that he needs to get the ball into Harvin's hands. Smart move.

Jury is still out but it is looking less and less like a guilty verdict with the death penalty.
Judge Wapner

Houston, TX

#2 Sep 26, 2012
Sticking with 7-9....

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Since: Dec 06

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#3 Sep 26, 2012
Stubby wrote:
Was not thrilled with Frazier and company last year. However am starting to see a glimmer of hope. First is Frazier. He's so cold an unemotional he doesn't seem to inspire the team on the sideline. Don't know how he is at practice or in the locker room but on the sideline he is a zombie. At least he was until the Niner game. After the BS replay/timeout fiasco he was on the field, in the Refs grill and fairly animated. I've coached baseball and softball for 16 years and learned that players like it when the coach sticks up for them . With replacements held in low regard Frazier's actions were noticed by the players.
Next is Williams. Too early to tel how they'll hold up but the secondary is light years ahead of last year. The rotation of the front 4 is also telling as there hasn't been the drop off that was noticed last year late in games.
Musgrave is the one who is starting to surprised me the most. He knows the teams limitations vertically and is making a great underneath game plan. At first I thought it was too predictable and easily defended. Predictable yes, defendable no. The execution of the O with Ponder's accuracy makes it work. Plus there are enough variations (hello no huddle) that keep the D guessing. Finally he has realized that he needs to get the ball into Harvin's hands. Smart move.
Jury is still out but it is looking less and less like a guilty verdict with the death penalty.
I was pleasantly surprised too at their offensive play calling. That 4th down TD pass was so unlike Musgrave...
Maybe he's starting to get the idea.
I'm still very much undecided if Fraizer has the stuff to be a winning NFL coach and have the ability to get us into the playoffs and beyond but last weekend did a lot to open my eyes a bit.
Stretch Lips

Houston, TX

#4 Sep 26, 2012
It opened Avants legs....

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Since: Dec 06

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#5 Sep 26, 2012
Other than the farve fiasco Frazier has done a wonderful job rebuilding. Last week proved we still need a substitute for the great Adrian Peterson. 3 fumbles in 3 minute guarantees Peterson will be playing in garbage time because we can't trust his backup.

Since: Dec 06

United States

#6 Sep 26, 2012
Avant wrote:
Other than the farve fiasco Frazier has done a wonderful job rebuilding. Last week proved we still need a substitute for the great Adrian Peterson. 3 fumbles in 3 minute guarantees Peterson will be playing in garbage time because we can't trust his backup.
After your last weeks terrible quotes,you should think about your replacement and stop worrying about something you know nothing about.
Football..........
Guruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#7 Sep 27, 2012
Everything Avant says is garbage time.
Guuurrruuu

United States

#9 Sep 27, 2012
Frazier is a joke.

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#10 Sep 28, 2012
Stretch Lips wrote:
It opened Avants legs....
At first I laughed at that, then got to thinking.. you're probably right!

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#11 Oct 10, 2012
Starting to really see what Frazier has done. Still not entirely warm on him but the results are telling.

The sign of good coaching is ability to make adjustments. Musgrave has adjusted the O to fit his personnel. The passing calls are high percentage and the Ponder to Rudolph connection is showing in the play calls. The biggest adjustment is getting Percy the ball any way they can. Even the blocking has been improved, not studly yet, but improved.

The D is the big surprise. Frazier made his biggest coaching move by realizing Pagac was over matched as a DC and brought in Williams. Williams has the personnel sticking to the scheme and minimizing errors.

Potential for a solid future as long as these three stay together.

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#12 Oct 15, 2012
1 step forward 2 steps back. Flashback to Childo/Bevell with those 1st quarter redzone play calls. Here's a hint to Frazier and Musgrave, don't pull Peterson in the redzone and put in Gerhart. You just told the other team you are going to pass.

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Since: Jan 07

Detroit Lakes, MN

#13 Oct 15, 2012
Judge Wapner wrote:
Sticking with 7-9....
I am staying with my 6-10 perdiction..........
Harry

Park River, ND

#14 Oct 15, 2012
Stubby wrote:
1 step forward 2 steps back. Flashback to Childo/Bevell with those 1st quarter redzone play calls. Here's a hint to Frazier and Musgrave, don't pull Peterson in the redzone and put in Gerhart. You just told the other team you are going to pass.
Couple things. 8 in the box nearly the whole game. We have TEs and WRs but no credible deep threat.

And what of those vaunted TEs? How about a credible shallow threat?

And defense......no LBs, Greenway is struggling.

On the bright side....4 wins in 6 games is great.

But FGs suck. Gotta score TDs.

Since: Dec 06

United States

#15 Oct 15, 2012
Harry wrote:
<quoted text>
Couple things. 8 in the box nearly the whole game. We have TEs and WRs but no credible deep threat.
And what of those vaunted TEs? How about a credible shallow threat?
And defense......no LBs, Greenway is struggling.
On the bright side....4 wins in 6 games is great.
But FGs suck. Gotta score TDs.
Harry,
for 2 straight years Greenway stat wise is top 3 LB.look up the stats.Overall are linebackers are near the top,stat wise.Depth would be the need.

Since: Dec 06

United States

#16 Oct 15, 2012
Stubby wrote:
1 step forward 2 steps back. Flashback to Childo/Bevell with those 1st quarter redzone play calls. Here's a hint to Frazier and Musgrave, don't pull Peterson in the redzone and put in Gerhart. You just told the other team you are going to pass.
As Peterson said,2 Micheal Jordan's,Peterson and Harvin.Right there you know the coaches aren't getting it done.The weaknesses aren't as glaring this season,as far as team needs minus a great deep threat,so yea,coaches need to get creative.Rudolph is 2nd behind the Atlanta TE,so there is another play maker.
Harry

Forest River, ND

#17 Oct 16, 2012
Childress wrote:
<quoted text>Harry,
for 2 straight years Greenway stat wise is top 3 LB.look up the stats.Overall are linebackers are near the top,stat wise.Depth would be the need.
Greenway has lots of tackles. I'd like to see sacks, strip sacks, fumbles recovered.....a pick or two.

I agree, depth is needed.

Against the Redskins, the line was fine, secondary pretty tight. Too many passes easily completed over the line and in front of the secondary. Eerily similar to SB IV and the Chiefs overcoming a good pass rush.

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Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#18 Oct 17, 2012
Okay Harry. Name five 4-3 linebacker that have a lot of sacks, strip-sacks and INTs? Sacks in particular are a stat that goes more to 3-4 LBs than to 4-3 ones. I can think of Von Miller for sacks but not INTs and Lance Briggs for INT but not sacks.

By the way Greenway currently leads the league in tackles. Not needs linebackers but leads the entire league.
Harry

Forest River, ND

#19 Oct 17, 2012
Stubby wrote:
Okay Harry. Name five 4-3 linebacker that have a lot of sacks, strip-sacks and INTs? Sacks in particular are a stat that goes more to 3-4 LBs than to 4-3 ones. I can think of Von Miller for sacks but not INTs and Lance Briggs for INT but not sacks.
By the way Greenway currently leads the league in tackles. Not needs linebackers but leads the entire league.
You've stumped the band.

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#20 Oct 28, 2012
There were a lot of 'I've seen that play before' moments in the Bucs game. Also if your workhorse is getting 11 yr runs routinely you ride him to the finish line.

At times coaching can shine and others it looks like rust. Consistency is lacking.

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#21 Oct 28, 2012
Stubby wrote:
There were a lot of 'I've seen that play before' moments in the Bucs game. Also if your workhorse is getting 11 yr runs routinely you ride him to the finish line.
At times coaching can shine and others it looks like rust. Consistency is lacking.
Consistency is lacking. YOU SAID IT. That is Christian Ponder's number 1 problem,.

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