Harry

Park River, ND

#21 Apr 30, 2012
erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>Cowboys GOT C n C music factory in their secondary.
Perfect way to STRENGTHEN a weak D backfield..........veteran and draft.
Vikes did nothin to acquire any WR via FA, TRADE, OR draft. Noteworthy.
Blackmon was that guy we fukked up on.
Deterrence factor for oppositions' secondary when playin' the Vikes..........NADA
A left tackle, a safety who can start, a kicker? And for a team that needs help at every position?

This is christmas! Finally abandoning BPA and drafting for need. I hope they sign undrafted players under 23. Youth movement. Hungry players WORKING to start.

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#22 Apr 30, 2012
Travis you are falling into common trap of trying to grade all players equally and not by round. Childs, Ellison and Walsh were picked in the proper round whether it by the Vikings or by another team they went in the position suitable to their talents.

As for filling holes we all said team needed OL, DB and WR. They drafted the best left tackle, 3 DBs, 2 WRs and a TE (slash FB). This addresses the holes. Plus they added a kicker which given Longwell's age and decreasing distance is also a growing area of need. Throw in an OLB and DE for depth on D and special teams fodder this rounds out a solid draft.

Stop thinking about the names simply because it's a player you didn't prefer but think about it as did they fill needs? The answer is yes they did.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#23 Apr 30, 2012
I did a lot of homework on LT Kalil & WR Childs & K Walsh Three guys that was in my mock draft. Before Childs was hurt he was the top receiver in collage & Arkansas. He is 100% now. He wasnt 100% at the combine But was at his PRO DAY. K Walsh Was the Vikings 8th pick How can you Knock that? Longwell's avg. was down He No longer cant make anything over 50 yards. Taking a kicker someone that will win games now & not taking a might have been kind of WR or DT. in his place Whats wrong with a sure thing? Walsh was the Best kicker in collage. That says it all. Now Look at some film on Greg Childs in 2010 Then look at everyones favorite Blackmon Then say who is the deep threat of the Two & Who runs a better route. I think the Route running looks the same to me & Childs is more of a deep threat & endzone

Since: Mar 07

Westminster, CO

#24 Apr 30, 2012
I understand we have no idea what will happen until they get coaching and playing time, but from what I have seen like other players in past I worry that Childs will wash out. Boy, I hope I am wrong, but.... EZG357, one thing that you mention is "Before he was hurt" well many players never come back from patella tendon injuries, so that in itself might seal the deal?

Time will tell!

Travis

“Vikings Fan Forever”

Since: Dec 06

Chicago

#25 May 1, 2012
Childs injury is actually one that people recover from to full strength. It doesn't have as much to do with range of motion as ACLs and MCLs do. It is the tendon that stabilizes your knee when you are standing by holding the knee cap in place between the femur and tibia. It is a very strong tendon, and surgery generally will allow for a full recovery.

Give Childs a shot Travis. Give him training camp and a couple of games before you judge him.

Since: Mar 07

Westminster, CO

#26 May 1, 2012
hey JD,
I know, you are right and I should not be so critical but you know how it is, you get so amped for the draft and in your mind you hope things go one way and when they don't you get a bit critical. I have heard several people say that it takes a long time to come back from a patella injury and many don't get 100%, hopefully that was not correct and he turns out to be a rock star. The FB\TE and Kicker I still will not be excited about :)

Travis

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#28 May 1, 2012
Brian Cushing had patellar tendon surgery in Jan 2011. He then led Texans in tackles last season. Something that wouldn't have happened with an ACL or MCL injury.

Since: Mar 07

Westminster, CO

#29 May 1, 2012
Good to know Stubby, maybe some people were just dramatizing it more then it needed to be?

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#30 May 2, 2012
Normal people like us who get a patellar tendon tear get it fixed by nearest Ortho Doc. Fotbal players get it fixed by the best Ortho Doc. Normal people suck at rehab and actually going to physical therapy. Pro athletes have the drive and time to rehab. Plus it helps to have physical therapy equipment and specialists at your place of work.

Normal people dramatize injuries, pro athletes rehab injuries.

“We've been Norv'ed”

Since: Nov 09

Erie

#31 May 5, 2012
Stubby wrote:
<quoted text>
Think you'll realize after the end of this season that there were several rookies who out performed Blackmon. He's a good receiver but he isn't in league of Randy Moss or Calvin Johnson their rookie years. He happened to be the best of a pretty solid WR draft but still isn't a super stud.
Keep in mind that every year a Victor Cruz comes out of nowhere while every year a top pick becomes a bust.
Point is that being more aggresive in the FA/TRADE venue to solidify a weakness.....a.k.a. db/ol/ would have given Ponder a sure fire WR aka Blackmon..........Stub this gut will win every.......ok not every.........1 v 1 MATCH with a safety.

Vikes went strictly via draft for weakness..........not sayin' it was a bad draft but A deep threat in this vertical league should have trumped a O. L. man..........

IMO.

Harvin played his azzz off last season.he showed HEART.....2 ASK HIM TO DO THAT AGAIN? Disrespectful.......

Hear me???

Stub why invite 9000 recievers' to camp when all you had to do was Get that dude from OK. ST.!!

“We've been Norv'ed”

Since: Nov 09

Erie

#32 May 5, 2012
Harry wrote:
<quoted text>
A left tackle, a safety who can start, a kicker? And for a team that needs help at every position?
This is christmas! Finally abandoning BPA and drafting for need. I hope they sign undrafted players under 23. Youth movement. Hungry players WORKING to start.
Yeah....agree..........you said it after Favre left that it would take awhile..........so now Vikes go 2-14 and draft a WR NEXT TIME??????????

O- Weapons of mass destruction are in dire need esp. in this division........Bears adressed the need for Cutler to have those hands to throw 2

Christ the Bears have A Starting tackle that was drafted in the 7th round ..........

As the game changes the roster needs to change.

Hope Kalil can catch the ball....God forbid our 88 tight ends can't do the job and block in this WCO scheme..........

PLZ

“Vikings Fan Forever”

Since: Dec 06

Chicago

#33 May 6, 2012
Erie. In no way is Blackmon a sure thing. I thought he was the second best receiver in the draft. They had to address their biggest area of need with that pick, especially when the two prospects that they had to choose from were available at positions of need and it was Kalil or Claiborne every time.

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#34 May 6, 2012
I firmly believe Blackmon will not be the best rookie receiver at the end of the year. For one thing Jacksonville isn't much of a passing team. Plus he's already coming up hurt with a sore foot at OTAs.

Since: Mar 07

Denver, CO

#35 May 6, 2012
I agree with JD, if we would have taken Blackmon it would not have mattered because CP would have been running for his life before Blackmon got 10 yrds down the field. OL was a smart move, if we would have went elsewhere I would have went with Claiborne, but ok with Kalil.

Travis
ezg357

Madera, CA

#36 May 6, 2012
Did you hear Blackmon sat out the final day of rookie camp because of a sore right foot. This was also the reason Blackmon's 40 yard dash changed form the Combine to his Pro Day workouts
ezg357

Madera, CA

#37 May 6, 2012
This is what End Zone report said about Blackmon. before the Draft>> He has great hands, can break away from tackles and is an all-around reliable receiver. However, he is not a true deep threat and in my opinion, he canít be a No.1 receiver in an NFL offense
ezg357

Madera, CA

#38 May 6, 2012
As you see you can find something said about every player sometimes you dig up more on one then the other like the News does with Ponder.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#39 May 6, 2012
During his junior and senior seasons at Florida State, Ponder completed 105 of 133 passes (78.9%) for 1,156 yards when the game was tied. When his team was losing by a margin of 1-7, Ponder completed 116 of 180 passes (64.4%) for 1,380 yards with 5 TDs and 1 INT.

Other numbers that indicate his ability to perform in pressure situations would include his 4th quarter performances. In 2009 and 2010, Ponder completed 69 of 112 passes (61.6%) for 779 yards with 5 TDs and 2 INTs. Not to mention his performance against AP ranked teams Ė 72 for 117 (61.5%), 846 yards, 9 TDs and 3 INTs.What I like most about Ponderís splits, though, is how he managed the offense when it reached the opponentís red zone. His last 2 seasons at FSU saw Ponder complete 45 of 72 attempts for 373 yards with 22 TDs and only 1 INT in the red zone. When faced with 3rd and goal, he converted 8 of 11 attempts for 44 yards with 7 TDs and zero INTs.
In total on 3rd downs, Ponder had a college passer rating of 131.0 and a TD/INT ratio of 20-8.

In 4th quarter come-from-behind wins, Ponder had a 67.5% completion rate with a 160.7 college passer rating and a 2-0 TD/INT ratio.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#40 May 6, 2012
Seeing them stats on Ponder shows he can be a good QB There is the proof above^^^^

Since: Dec 06

Pinellas Park, FL

#41 May 7, 2012
TRPE wrote:
Good to know Stubby, maybe some people were just dramatizing it more then it needed to be?
Plus Jimmy says OL can be had from any McDonald's and Burger King nation wide,plus we had open receivers all over the place this past season.
AND,
good news,
Jimmy is pulling for Ponder.

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