What Must Ponder Do in 2013?

What Must Ponder Do in 2013?

There are 421 comments on the The Daily Norseman story from May 11, 2013, titled What Must Ponder Do in 2013?. In it, The Daily Norseman reports that:

It's not a controversial statement to say that Christian Ponder had an up and down 2012 season.

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eric

Verona, WI

#102 May 19, 2013
They clearly need to up the passing game which will help Peterson that much more.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#103 May 19, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>Ya either that or maybe they were just telling the truth.His statistics and his physical abilities dont lie.
It's obvious that the Vikings have the very best running back and receivers in the NFC North. So who do you think will be to blame if the Vikings don't run away with the division?
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#104 May 19, 2013
erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>Mr. Nancy. Show some respect.........Again, once you hit that Absract formation stage then let me know how you feel......BTW what is RMLFAO PLZ.
Abstract formation stage? What is that? Is that when the Packers dominate the division by beating every other team in it over and over and win the division title year after year? Because obviously the Packers have already hit the abstract formation stage if that is what it is. ROFLMAO!
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#105 May 19, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>I think well see more longer passes.
Of course we will. The only question is will we see any more end up in Viking receiver hands? Or will we see just as many as ever hitting the ground or being picked off? BTW those extra deep passes are that many fewer carries by Adrian Peterson, which I will be happy to see.
viking nation

Madera, CA

#106 May 19, 2013
Ponder throwing more doesn't mean Peterson will get less carries. If you go back to last year & look at the pace of the game the vikes was keeping you will see that each play ran to the last few seconds on the play clock so all the vikes need to do to get Ponder more snaps( passing attempts ) & for Peterson's is speed up the plays under center. Peterson can still get his carries & Ponder's attempts per-game can go up & defenses will have to try & keep up with the pace of the Vikings offense. Its what New England & Denver is doing now.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#107 May 20, 2013
viking nation wrote:
Ponder throwing more doesn't mean Peterson will get less carries. If you go back to last year & look at the pace of the game the vikes was keeping you will see that each play ran to the last few seconds on the play clock so all the vikes need to do to get Ponder more snaps( passing attempts ) & for Peterson's is speed up the plays under center. Peterson can still get his carries & Ponder's attempts per-game can go up & defenses will have to try & keep up with the pace of the Vikings offense. Its what New England & Denver is doing now.
And every child can have sugar plums and candy canes! I've got news for you: The Vikings aren't the Patriots or Broncos. Ponder isn't Brady or Manning. And the more times Ponder throws, the less Adrian Peterson touches the ball, which is fine with me.

“MN Viking fan in Kansas”

Since: Apr 13

Huron, South Dakota

#108 May 20, 2013
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
And every child can have sugar plums and candy canes! I've got news for you: The Vikings aren't the Patriots or Broncos. Ponder isn't Brady or Manning. And the more times Ponder throws, the less Adrian Peterson touches the ball, which is fine with me.
Reverse-physiology won't work. The less Peterson touches the ball, the fresher he will be at crunch-time. If he's fresh and the defense is tired from chasing Patterson, look out. True, Ponder isn't elite...but he's better than you think. Don't think Rodgers, Brady or Manning, think Steve Young or Joe Montana.
eric

Verona, WI

#109 May 20, 2013
Your assuming Patterson will develop into a solid performer and a productive WR.There have been many WR with blazing speed who didnt produce much of anything.IF he develops,you have something and your assuming Ponder takes the next step,again,if he does,your in good shape and have something,if not, you need Peterson to carry the offense
If i had my choice,yea, id love less carries for AP and Ponder throwing more.IF the offense doesnt move with Ponder throwing,you fall behind and that takes the ball out of Petersons hands as well. Your playing ifs with an unproven rookie WR and a decent/good qb,not a very good or great one yet.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#110 May 21, 2013
Kanfan wrote:
<quoted text>Reverse-physiology won't work. The less Peterson touches the ball, the fresher he will be at crunch-time. If he's fresh and the defense is tired from chasing Patterson, look out. True, Ponder isn't elite...but he's better than you think. Don't think Rodgers, Brady or Manning, think Steve Young or Joe Montana.
As we all know, the great running backs are greater the fewer times they touch the ball. ROFLMAO

BTW don't think Rodgers, Brady or Manning, Young or Montana. Think Alex Smith, Mark Sanchez, Timmy Tebow or any other QB that can't throw the deep ball. And right now, Ponder would be doing well to reach Alex Smith status, which is pretty sad. What is it about Viking fans and the need to believe your QB is better than he actually is? Football is a team game. Super Bowl trophies are given to the best team, not the team with the best QB.

“MN Viking fan in Kansas”

Since: Apr 13

Huron, South Dakota

#111 May 21, 2013
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
As we all know, the great running backs are greater the fewer times they touch the ball. ROFLMAO
BTW don't think Rodgers, Brady or Manning, Young or Montana. Think Alex Smith, Mark Sanchez, Timmy Tebow or any other QB that can't throw the deep ball. And right now, Ponder would be doing well to reach Alex Smith status, which is pretty sad. What is it about Viking fans and the need to believe your QB is better than he actually is? Football is a team game. Super Bowl trophies are given to the best team, not the team with the best QB.
I assumed you would have figured out that I was refering to the offensive scheme, the West Coast Offense...hence, Montana and Young. That offense does not rely on the deep ball. My bad there. If Ponder's average pass is for 7 yds (which it is), then Peterson would have 2nd and 3rd downs to pick up 3 yds. Peterson still gets his touches, just vary the "when". So, roflmao, get up, put on your dunce-cap and learn something about offensive schemes.
And why are you hung up on the deep ball? Look up Farve's lifetime average completion....tell me what the average yardage was per completion.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#112 May 21, 2013
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
As we all know, the great running backs are greater the fewer times they touch the ball. ROFLMAO
BTW don't think Rodgers, Brady or Manning, Young or Montana. Think Alex Smith, Mark Sanchez, Timmy Tebow or any other QB that can't throw the deep ball. And right now, Ponder would be doing well to reach Alex Smith status, which is pretty sad. What is it about Viking fans and the need to believe your QB is better than he actually is? Football is a team game. Super Bowl trophies are given to the best team, not the team with the best QB.
What exactly do you consider the deep ball?Ponders has thrown for 72 and 65 yards so he certainly can do it cause he has.We already have a better overall team but we all know that Ponder has to be more consistent.The reason we brought in the recievers we did was to open the field for some longer passes.The same could be said, the great quarterbacks are better when you run the ball more and throw less which it looks like the Packers are attempting to do.I doubt if it works very well with that creaky Oline and Kuhn blocking for them.hahahahahahahahahahahahah a
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#114 May 21, 2013
Kanfan wrote:
<quoted text>I assumed you would have figured out that I was refering to the offensive scheme, the West Coast Offense...hence, Montana and Young. That offense does not rely on the deep ball. My bad there. If Ponder's average pass is for 7 yds (which it is), then Peterson would have 2nd and 3rd downs to pick up 3 yds. Peterson still gets his touches, just vary the "when". So, roflmao, get up, put on your dunce-cap and learn something about offensive schemes.
And why are you hung up on the deep ball? Look up Farve's lifetime average completion....tell me what the average yardage was per completion.
The ability to throw the deep ball is what seperates poor, average, good and great QBs from one another. And Montana, Young and Favre could throw the deep ball. Alex Smith, Tim Tebow and Christian Ponder not so much. If that's what you want, so be it. At least you aren't foolishly pretending that Ponder is a good deep passer.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#115 May 21, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>What exactly do you consider the deep ball?Ponders has thrown for 72 and 65 yards so he certainly can do it cause he has.We already have a better overall team but we all know that Ponder has to be more consistent.The reason we brought in the recievers we did was to open the field for some longer passes.The same could be said, the great quarterbacks are better when you run the ball more and throw less which it looks like the Packers are attempting to do.I doubt if it works very well with that creaky Oline and Kuhn blocking for them.hahahahahahahahahahahahah a
Tim Tebow and Alex Smith have also thrown some deep passes. So what? That doesn't mean they are good at throwing the deep ball. Every NFL QB will have a few deep passes caught. It's the ability to do it more often that seperates the great QBs from the others. But if you want to take those two long passes by Ponder and make yourself believe what you obviously need to make yourself believe, I can't stop you. But don't expect others to agree with your foolish delusional beliefs. No sane person considers Ponder anywhere near the top QBs in the NFL.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#116 May 21, 2013
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
Tim Tebow and Alex Smith have also thrown some deep passes. So what? That doesn't mean they are good at throwing the deep ball. Every NFL QB will have a few deep passes caught. It's the ability to do it more often that seperates the great QBs from the others. But if you want to take those two long passes by Ponder and make yourself believe what you obviously need to make yourself believe, I can't stop you. But don't expect others to agree with your foolish delusional beliefs. No sane person considers Ponder anywhere near the top QBs in the NFL.
In youre previous statement you said that he cant throw the deep ball.Now its not very often.Next year with Jennings and Wright,Simpson and Patterson it will be more often.Ive always heard it takes three years to evaluate a player so lets see where we are after this year.You omit the good things he did.I dont see him as Alex Smith.Ponder is pretty mobile when he takes off.As we been trying to tell you we really didnt have the recievers to get separation for the long shot and Wright was a rookie so it took him a couple games to get in the groove.I will say this for you,Ponder will probably never put up the numbers Rodgers has because most teams play a more balanced offense.And I dont really believe the leaugue is turning into a passing league cause I see more and more teams trying to establish the run.That and the running quarterbacks.

“MN Viking fan in Kansas”

Since: Apr 13

Huron, South Dakota

#117 May 21, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>In youre previous statement you said that he cant throw the deep ball.Now its not very often.Next year with Jennings and Wright,Simpson and Patterson it will be more often.Ive always heard it takes three years to evaluate a player so lets see where we are after this year.You omit the good things he did.I dont see him as Alex Smith.Ponder is pretty mobile when he takes off.As we been trying to tell you we really didnt have the recievers to get separation for the long shot and Wright was a rookie so it took him a couple games to get in the groove.I will say this for you,Ponder will probably never put up the numbers Rodgers has because most teams play a more balanced offense.And I dont really believe the leaugue is turning into a passing league cause I see more and more teams trying to establish the run.That and the running quarterbacks.
I'm inclined to agree with you...Ponder needs this year before you compare him to anyone. We're not saying he's great, nor are we saying he's terrible. Because of the poor WRs he had last year, we just don't know. Since we did not try to acquire another QB, the coaches must think he's good enough.
eric

Verona, WI

#118 May 21, 2013
Thats the one thing about Rodgers.Packers running game has been weak,SO, we all know whats coming and yet,look at the numbers Rodgers still puts up.
You like to say Minnesota is improving,catching up ect.Imagine if both the RB drafted turn out to be good backs and moving Bulaga to LT is a good move ( wasnt my first thought,but, it cant get any worse then Marshall Newhouse)
viking nation

Madera, CA

#119 May 21, 2013
Here is a nice clip on Ponder, take a look at what the experts said about him at the combine & once drafted.....XXYOUTUBE-2chXq74n ScUXX
viking nation

Madera, CA

#120 May 21, 2013
viking nation

Madera, CA

#121 May 21, 2013
I think up to now Ponder hasn't had the personnel to throw deep. Ponder has shown to at least be good in the short to intermediate passing game. Ponder has a 91 rating in 1-10 yards and a 85 rating in 11-20 yards. That is the Vikings passing game right now, and until now they didn't have a legit WR who can get open 20+ yards down field, You cant run an offense if you dont have the personnel to run.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#122 May 21, 2013
I think people underestimate Ponders arm strenght a little.Mayock said he had above average arm strenght but Gruden said he had below.He threw a couple pretty long ones to Wright one in the Titans game the other in the Packers game and I dont see why you would need to throw it farther than that.Another thing thats overlooked is his mobility.He can really take off with it when he wants to.Hes learning and needs to have a little time with the same recievers.He got a little flustered last year and the game got a little to big for him.As long as he doesnt get nervous and fumble or throw interceptions we'll be ok.When hes aggressive he plays the best and he certainly is accurate.

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