What Must Ponder Do in 2013?

What Must Ponder Do in 2013?

There are 421 comments on the The Daily Norseman story from May 11, 2013, titled What Must Ponder Do in 2013?. In it, The Daily Norseman reports that:

It's not a controversial statement to say that Christian Ponder had an up and down 2012 season.

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#21 May 13, 2013
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#22 May 13, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>Ponder is coming into his prime,Rodgers is past it.
ROFLMAO! If that is true I am delighted! Ponder sucks in his prime while Rodgers is awesome while being past it. The Packers are sure to continue their domination! You fools are so unfimiliar with good QB play it's pathetic.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#23 May 13, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>No I dont think I would.Rodgers is 30 years old and has had multiple concussions.In the last 14 years only four quarterbacks past 30 have won the superbowl.Brad Johnson at 34 in 2002,Peyton Manning at 30 in 2006,Drew Brees at 31 in 2009,Eli Manning at 31 in 2011.In todays league he may not have the 6 years you think he does.Its kinda hard to gauge Ponder cause hes never had the recievers Rodgers had.Nor does he pass for 552 attempts in one year.In Rodgers first year he went 6-10 with wide recievers,Donald Driver,Greg Jennings,Ruvell Martin and James Jones.Thats year they drafted Jordy Nelson.In 2009 they lost in the wildcard with recievers,Driver,Jennings,Jone s,and Jordy Nelson.So give Ponder a break.Rodgers has had 6 years with jones and 4 years with nelson to get that chemistry.
I assure you that every person in the Packer organization and every player, coach and fan of the Packers is perfectly fine with Rodgers staying in Green Bay. The Vikings are welcome to keep Ponder, in fact I prefer that Christian Ponder remain your QB. Even after Rodgers career is over, the Packers will want a better QB than Ponder.

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#24 May 13, 2013

Since: Dec 06

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#25 May 13, 2013
I would probably start with http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr and factor in that he has 1 year full time and no notable receiver from last season.Harvin played only 8 games before IR.
He finished above many and had good company just above him.
Time,experience,a supporting cast,plus time to gel with the receivers.all takes time.His college stats were pretty good.
I'll wait and see,Minn is still building anyway.
eric

Verona, WI

#26 May 13, 2013
Signing Jennings couldn't hurt.Im still looking forward to seeing how that WR from Tenn works out,if it works,Ponder has a pretty solid crew..he and Jennings with Rudolph at TE,but, i think it will take a few seasons for Mr Tenn. to develop but as a kick returner/punt returner,he may make a positive contribution,NOW, will it be enough? we will see,but, Ponder Has yet another year of starting under the belt,SO lets see what he can do.Although a great back,expecting Peterson to run for 2K yards again is unfair to the guy, although not impossible 2K in 16 games,,that's 120-125 per game.
We will see but comparing Ponder to Rodgers is ridiculous at the least.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#27 May 13, 2013
Childress wrote:
I would probably start with http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr and factor in that he has 1 year full time and no notable receiver from last season.Harvin played only 8 games before IR.
He finished above many and had good company just above him.
Time,experience,a supporting cast,plus time to gel with the receivers.all takes time.His college stats were pretty good.
I'll wait and see,Minn is still building anyway.
If the Tebow loving idiots could find reasons to want him as their starter, I'm sure EVERY fan on EVERY team can find some reasons to want their QB. Nobody here is going to argue with you. Christian Ponder is definitely the QB for the Vikings!

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#28 May 13, 2013
GBPfan wrote:
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If the Tebow loving idiots could find reasons to want him as their starter, I'm sure EVERY fan on EVERY team can find some reasons to want their QB. Nobody here is going to argue with you. Christian Ponder is definitely the QB for the Vikings!
Entirely different team Packman.The Vikings play defense and run the ball.Something the Packers are hoping to do.The pass is secondary athough I expect more balance.The Packers are more like the Lions than any other team in the North.If Rodgers was 24 I would take him in a heartbeat.At 30 no.Yep the Lions draft a DE in the first round in Ansah and bring in two running backs in Reggie Bush and Theo Riddick.The Packers sign DE in the first in Jones and then sign two running backs in Lacy and Franklin.These two teams are almost identical both trying to copy the Vikings running attack.Both trying to do it with a makeshift offensive line.LOL

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#29 May 13, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>thats alright that you pick Rodgers.Thats why this is a discussion panel.I know most would say im nuts but I wouldnt take him because hes had multiple concussions and hes been sacked over 200 times.Plus hes 30.As far as Im concerned 2010 was his best year.Colin Kapernick and Matt Ryan had a higher qb rating last year.Believe it or not Ponder had a higher QB rating last year than.Jay Cutler,Josh Freeman,Andy Dalton,Sam Bradford and Joe Flacco.
Can't talk about Rodgers multiple
concussion unless we acknowledge that Ponder has miss multiple games each of the past 6 years.

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#30 May 13, 2013
viking nation wrote:
I would say Aaron is one of the top QBs but as good as Peyton Manning I would say no, Hightest passer rating in a season Manning 121.1 Most MVP with 4 Most yards gained by a rookie 3,739 Most games with 4 or more touchdown passes 6 I am not putting Aaron down at all because I do think he is good But he does hold on the ball way to long. You can't only blame his front line for all the sacks. Aaron's paaser rating is good, but look at the big games he won to the big games he lost. Aaron's big game losses out number his big game wins.
Few years ago we did a poll what QB would you take for the rest of their career? Rodgers won Peyton Chokes EVERY playoffs, Brady a system QB and the leaders that won super bowls retired.

Matt Cassel ruined Brady's reputation when he replaced him when Brady got hurt and played just as well in the Belichick system showing Brady is nothing more than a system QB.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#31 May 13, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>Entirely different team Packman.The Vikings play defense and run the ball.Something the Packers are hoping to do.The pass is secondary athough I expect more balance.The Packers are more like the Lions than any other team in the North.If Rodgers was 24 I would take him in a heartbeat.At 30 no.Yep the Lions draft a DE in the first round in Ansah and bring in two running backs in Reggie Bush and Theo Riddick.The Packers sign DE in the first in Jones and then sign two running backs in Lacy and Franklin.These two teams are almost identical both trying to copy the Vikings running attack.Both trying to do it with a makeshift offensive line.LOL
No duh! The Vikings have a poor QB and they run the ball. The Packers have a good QB and they pass the ball. How long did it take you to figure that out? And since the Packers are winning the division without a running game, obviously the establishment of a running game will merely be icing the cake! But thanks again for reminding me of the strong position the Packers are in.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#32 May 13, 2013
Avant wrote:
<quoted text>Few years ago we did a poll what QB would you take for the rest of their career? Rodgers won Peyton Chokes EVERY playoffs, Brady a system QB and the leaders that won super bowls retired.
Matt Cassel ruined Brady's reputation when he replaced him when Brady got hurt and played just as well in the Belichick system showing Brady is nothing more than a system QB.
For the life of me, I can't understand why some people can't simply admit that Rodgers is better than Ponder. Football is a team game. It really is irrelevant if a team is stronger at any one position. But as long as the media and many fans continue to act as if a football team and it's QB are one in the same thing, I guess there will be Viking fans that are threatened by the Packers having a better QB. For instance, clearly the Vikings are stronger at running back. But I guess most people don't want to give running backs the same credit or importance as QBs. In the end it is an entire team effort that equates to wins and championships. I think most players understand this. It seems that few fans undertand it.

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#33 May 13, 2013
GBPfan wrote:
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For the life of me, I can't understand why some people can't simply admit that Rodgers is better than Ponder. Football is a team game. It really is irrelevant if a team is stronger at any one position. But as long as the media and many fans continue to act as if a football team and it's QB are one in the same thing, I guess there will be Viking fans that are threatened by the Packers having a better QB. For instance, clearly the Vikings are stronger at running back. But I guess most people don't want to give running backs the same credit or importance as QBs. In the end it is an entire team effort that equates to wins and championships. I think most players understand this. It seems that few fans undertand it.
Rodgers is a hall of famer. I hate the Packers but for some reason I like the great Aaron Rodgers. Anybody who would say they would take Ponder over Rodgers is simply lying or they don't know the QB position.

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#34 May 13, 2013
GBPfan wrote:
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ROFLMAO! If that is true I am delighted! Ponder sucks in his prime while Rodgers is awesome while being past it. The Packers are sure to continue their domination! You fools are so unfimiliar with good QB play it's pathetic.
How do you know that?.We'll see what Ponder does this year.Im not saying we had bad recievers but we didnt have the right type.It was like in 2011 when Childress tried to place Percy Harvin on the outside in the West Coast offense.It was a disaster.Having either Jenkins or Aromashodu with Jennings and Patterson and Wright they probably would have been alright but as starters they were pretty easy to guard.Ponder might be awesome this year and Rodgers sucks. Yet to be seen.
viking nation

Madera, CA

#35 May 13, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>thats alright that you pick Rodgers.Thats why this is a discussion panel.I know most would say im nuts but I wouldnt take him because hes had multiple concussions and hes been sacked over 200 times.Plus hes 30.As far as Im concerned 2010 was his best year.Colin Kapernick and Matt Ryan had a higher qb rating last year.Believe it or not Ponder had a higher QB rating last year than.Jay Cutler,Josh Freeman,Andy Dalton,Sam Bradford and Joe Flacco.
Ponders QB rating was was higher but look at his yards per-game to them QBs it doesn't compare. I agree Aaron has been sacked way to many times for the years he has been playing & one of these un-needed sacks will take him off the field some time. I seen some good things about Ponder don't get me wrong but he has got to start finding his sceondary receivers The coaches I think started last year great having Ponder keep things short but once that first receiver( Harvin ) was taken away Ponder looked like he didn't know where his other receivers was on the field. & his yards per-game shows that. My pick was Aaron because You got to give Aaron credit He is one tough s.o.b. that keeps getting up, he is a lot like Favre in that way.
eric

Verona, WI

#36 May 13, 2013
Why are folks comparing Aaron Rodgers and Christian Ponder? Its not even close.Ponder may become a very good qb,AR is a HOFer already ( except for only being around for 8 years or so 5 as a starter)His amount is the only argument one can make,,not playing long enough

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#37 May 13, 2013
eric wrote:
Why are folks comparing Aaron Rodgers and Christian Ponder? Its not even close.Ponder may become a very good qb,AR is a HOFer already ( except for only being around for 8 years or so 5 as a starter)His amount is the only argument one can make,,not playing long enough
I dont know why they are arguing this point eric, its a yawner of a topic if ya ask me. I have supported Ponder since he is the qb of my team, and have seen flashes of a very good qb, but IMO this should be his make or break year, since the vikes receiving corps has improved. That also remains to be seen.
eric

Verona, WI

#38 May 13, 2013
I have read or heard from a few that this is the make or break year for Ponder.
I personally like the kid.Hes got talent,Minn has a great RB a good TE and a WR ( Jennings) and some compliments and if their Oline turns out to be good,they can make some noise.
Thing is,NFL is a passing league,but, a team can win a SB w/o a great qb
viking nation

Madera, CA

#39 May 13, 2013
eric wrote:
Why are folks comparing Aaron Rodgers and Christian Ponder? Its not even close.Ponder may become a very good qb,AR is a HOFer already ( except for only being around for 8 years or so 5 as a starter)His amount is the only argument one can make,,not playing long enough
lol true

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#40 May 14, 2013
eric wrote:
I have read or heard from a few that this is the make or break year for Ponder.
I personally like the kid.Hes got talent,Minn has a great RB a good TE and a WR ( Jennings) and some compliments and if their Oline turns out to be good,they can make some noise.
Thing is,NFL is a passing league,but, a team can win a SB w/o a great qb
Thanks for the compliments Eric.The only question I have is what do you mean if our Oline turns out good.Its same Oline as last year except for a different backup cause Geoff Schwartz left but he didnt play much anyway.Itll be the same starters.According to pro football focus Minnesota had the #9th ranked offensive line last year.Kalil went to the probowl as an alternate and Sullivan should have because depending on who youre listening to hes either the #1 or #2 best center.I think a mixture of running and passing is still the best remedy.

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