How Are the Minnesota Vikings Filling the Percy Harvin Gap?

Jul 2, 2013 Full story: BleacherReport 16

Percy Harvin did it all for the Minnesota Vikings during his four seasons with the team.

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Laughing Bear Fan

Longmont, CO

#1 Jul 3, 2013
They don't need to fill the gap UNTIL they get a heterosexual QB that can throw the ball down the field beyond 5 yards

Since: Jun 10

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#2 Jul 4, 2013
Laughing Bear Fan wrote:
They don't need to fill the gap UNTIL they get a heterosexual QB that can throw the ball down the field beyond 5 yards
More nonsense from the Bear clown.Um,Ponder is married to a woman.Ponders longest pass was 65 yards.Consistency is the problem and turnovers.Will you ever say anything intelligent?
eric

Monroe, WI

#3 Jul 4, 2013
I dont think there is a WR available that can fill the Harvin Gap.
Jennings is talented but not as much as Harvin.Unless the Rookie from U Tenn. really gets it ( which is rare with Rookies) it wont be covered.Minn. may have more Targets for Ponder how ever but again,none as good as Harvin.

Since: Jun 10

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#4 Jul 4, 2013
eric wrote:
I dont think there is a WR available that can fill the Harvin Gap.
Jennings is talented but not as much as Harvin.Unless the Rookie from U Tenn. really gets it ( which is rare with Rookies) it wont be covered.Minn. may have more Targets for Ponder how ever but again,none as good as Harvin.
Ill agree with you for once that we probably wont have someone to replace the things that Harvin did good.Patterson might be able to fill the void at kick returner.Obviously it would be better if we had Jennings and Harvin.On the other hand I remember when we got Harvin I thought the Vikings were nuts because they released our best reciever at that time,Bobby Wade.Im confident well have a better overall offense.Besides that their really was no keeping Harvin,he made up his mind and even if we had offered him the money he would have wanted to go.And if we offered him the money early then all our other free agents would have wanted their contract early too and thats not a good precedence.
viking nation

Madera, CA

#5 Jul 4, 2013
Harvin wasn't much of a route runner. he is a great return man & great after the catch. Its never easy to replace a good player but I do think the vikings did a pretty good job.
GBPmies

Finland

#6 Jul 4, 2013
Considering that Ponder had an extremely difficult time completing passes that traveled 20+ yds threw the air the past 2 yrs, having a guy like Harvin to make great plays on quick throws and screens helped him a great deal.

Of Harvins 677 yrds receiving last year 509 were YAC. Having that type of player is tough to replace and maybe this year it is some type of combo of Jennings, Wright, Patterson to do the job.... and there is nothing wrong with that really. They just have to find a new way to get it done, but it won’t be easy.
GBPmies

Finland

#7 Jul 4, 2013
It isn’t so much as filling the "Harvin gap" and it is a big one so I'm told. It is more about evolving the offense to the new players and their strengths, not trying to fit new players into Harvin’s strengths -- that would be stupid (like drafting Williamson to be the next Moss).
eric

Monroe, WI

#8 Jul 4, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>Ill agree with you for once that we probably wont have someone to replace the things that Harvin did good.Patterson might be able to fill the void at kick returner.Obviously it would be better if we had Jennings and Harvin.On the other hand I remember when we got Harvin I thought the Vikings were nuts because they released our best reciever at that time,Bobby Wade.Im confident well have a better overall offense.Besides that their really was no keeping Harvin,he made up his mind and even if we had offered him the money he would have wanted to go.And if we offered him the money early then all our other free agents would have wanted their contract early too and thats not a good precedence.
If you look at the whole situation as a whole Minnesota did a heck of a job.Percy didnt appear to want to be there and Minn still got a 1st rounder for him,that is a hell of a job and both parties made out.Seattle got a terrific athlete,Minn.got a high pick for someone who didnt want to be there.If your going to ask about Talent,Minn. lost,,in the whole scheme,they did alright,they lost a great talent and gained a good talent but lost a guy who didnt want to be there vs a guy who wants to and the attitude will improve on that one. You lost in quality but gained in quantity

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#9 Jul 4, 2013
GBPmies wrote:
Considering that Ponder had an extremely difficult time completing passes that traveled 20+ yds threw the air the past 2 yrs, having a guy like Harvin to make great plays on quick throws and screens helped him a great deal.
Of Harvins 677 yrds receiving last year 509 were YAC. Having that type of player is tough to replace and maybe this year it is some type of combo of Jennings, Wright, Patterson to do the job.... and there is nothing wrong with that really. They just have to find a new way to get it done, but it won’t be easy.
From what Ive heard and of course I havent had a chance to observe myself except for you tube Pattersons strenght is his yards after the catch-weakness drops the long ball sometimes because he catches the ball with his body.Im sure the coaches are working on his hands but he should handle the short routes well, similar to Harvin but Patterson is huge in comparison..Harvin -5'11",Patterson 6'2".Harvins 40 yard dash-4.1,Pattersons 40-4.2.

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#10 Jul 4, 2013
GBPmies

Finland

#11 Jul 5, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>From what Ive heard and of course I havent had a chance to observe myself except for you tube Pattersons strenght is his yards after the catch-weakness drops the long ball sometimes because he catches the ball with his body.Im sure the coaches are working on his hands but he should handle the short routes well, similar to Harvin but Patterson is huge in comparison..Harvin -5'11",Patterson 6'2".Harvins 40 yard dash-4.1,Pattersons 40-4.2.
That is what I have been reading too so I would think they will be able to get Patterson somewhat involved early in the season with some quick throws or screens. I thought he was going to be this missing deep threat and stretch the field guy but from what I have read he wasn't used so much at TU as that guy and as of right now that is not one of his strengths. Wright is a pure slot guy, IMO, Jennings works best out of the slot, but can play anywhere.Patterson is probably better in short pass game. It will be interesting to see how the vikings use and get the most out of all these slot type WRs. Are they still missing guys on the outside? I know Jennings can do it, but I wouldn’t expect the majority of his snaps on the outside, it is not his strength.

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#12 Jul 5, 2013
GBPmies wrote:
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That is what I have been reading too so I would think they will be able to get Patterson somewhat involved early in the season with some quick throws or screens. I thought he was going to be this missing deep threat and stretch the field guy but from what I have read he wasn't used so much at TU as that guy and as of right now that is not one of his strengths. Wright is a pure slot guy, IMO, Jennings works best out of the slot, but can play anywhere.Patterson is probably better in short pass game. It will be interesting to see how the vikings use and get the most out of all these slot type WRs. Are they still missing guys on the outside? I know Jennings can do it, but I wouldn’t expect the majority of his snaps on the outside, it is not his strength.
The plan is it will be Jerome Simpson at least to start with and Patterson growing into the role.Plus dont overlook the possibility of Webb and Greg Childs.If Childs manages to make it back,and hes been rehabbing all year,he could be a nightmare for defenses.

Since: Dec 06

Davenport, FL

#13 Jul 5, 2013
Wright will surpass Harvins best season,which wasn't much.
Plus I hate bitches anyway.
GBPmies

Finland

#14 Jul 5, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>The plan is it will be Jerome Simpson at least to start with and Patterson growing into the role.Plus dont overlook the possibility of Webb and Greg Childs.If Childs manages to make it back,and hes been rehabbing all year,he could be a nightmare for defenses.
I will be amazed if any of those guys you mentioned have any type of positive impact for vikings WRs in 2013. This is just my opinion and I am not trying to be an azz, this is just how I see it.

-Simpson was a disappointment last seasons but maybe if he is fully healthy he can somewhat contribute and maybe he can catch the ball at least. He is in a prove it year again, and may lose his job to back up QB?
-Webb might have a shot I have not seen him play WR yet so I will wait before dissing him, but it is a major question mark, going from backup QB to starting WR sounds like a lack of serious options at WR.
-Childs played 8 games in 2010 as junior before season ending patellar tendon injury, didn’t play much or very well in 2011, drafted in 2012 and in training camp tore BOTH patellar tendons. Right now he is not even medically cleared to play football… maybe sometime in early camp.“There were doubts about whether Childs would ever play again — there’s no record of anyone coming back from that injury to play in another NFL game — especially since Childs had suffered the same injury to one of his knees at Arkansas.”-PFT
He sounds like a great kid though with his positive attitude, I hope he makes it.

They might as well throw Patterson in there because the other guys are not very scary at all. However only 4% of Patterson’s targets were deep balls last year. But he will get the defense’s attention at least.

Maybe your best bet is Burton for right now.

Since: Jun 10

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#15 Jul 5, 2013
GBPmies wrote:
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I will be amazed if any of those guys you mentioned have any type of positive impact for vikings WRs in 2013. This is just my opinion and I am not trying to be an azz, this is just how I see it.
-Simpson was a disappointment last seasons but maybe if he is fully healthy he can somewhat contribute and maybe he can catch the ball at least. He is in a prove it year again, and may lose his job to back up QB?
-Webb might have a shot I have not seen him play WR yet so I will wait before dissing him, but it is a major question mark, going from backup QB to starting WR sounds like a lack of serious options at WR.
-Childs played 8 games in 2010 as junior before season ending patellar tendon injury, didn’t play much or very well in 2011, drafted in 2012 and in training camp tore BOTH patellar tendons. Right now he is not even medically cleared to play football… maybe sometime in early camp.“There were doubts about whether Childs would ever play again — there’s no record of anyone coming back from that injury to play in another NFL game — especially since Childs had suffered the same injury to one of his knees at Arkansas.”-PFT
He sounds like a great kid though with his positive attitude, I hope he makes it.
They might as well throw Patterson in there because the other guys are not very scary at all. However only 4% of Patterson’s targets were deep balls last year. But he will get the defense’s attention at least.
Maybe your best bet is Burton for right now.
It doesnt sound like much but you have to add Rudolph and Carlson,Rhett Ellison and even Peterson to the mix as well.We'll see where the dust falls after training camp.Whos here and who isnt.
GBPmies

Finland

#16 Jul 5, 2013
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>It doesnt sound like much but you have to add Rudolph and Carlson,Rhett Ellison and even Peterson to the mix as well.We'll see where the dust falls after training camp.Whos here and who isnt.
True, and Rudolph is a beast and a great target (mostly in middle though). I wouldn't be suprised if they bring in another guy to play on the outside. I am sure some veterans will be cut along the way and they can find some help there. I would think with the injury history or lack of experience of many of these WRs they could use another vet on the outside in the mix, just incase.

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